will Windows 8 kill Android tablets?

[investmenttech]

When MS releases Windows 8 which is a full operating system designed with touch capabilities, will it destroy any hope that Android will have in the tablet market? Considering the fact that even without Windows 8, Android is not doing all that great in the tablet market.

 

[chanchan05]

We cant say. A definite factor is pricing, since Win8 tablets would look to be pricey, and Androids can be had for cheaper. However, you are mistaken if you think all PC programs will work on a Win8 tablet. Microsoft already confirmed that they will not. Not all PC programs are compatible with the ARM chips that mobile devices use, and are infact configured for x64 and x86 chips, like the ones used in PCs.

 

[dan330]

When MS releases Windows 8 which is a full operating system designed with touch capabilities, will it destroy any hope that Android will have in the tablet market? Considering the fact that even without Windows 8, Android is not doing all that great in the tablet market.

per the bold and underlined part of your message...

how is that different with android?

 

[investmenttech]

per the bold and underlined part of your message...

how is that different with android?

Because Android is a mobile OS while Windows 8 is the successor to Windows 7.

Personally I want my tablet to be more than just an a giant smartphone minus th phone capabilities.

 

[lunatic59]

I doubt it will even make a ripple in the tablet market. MS has never been able to make a decent tablet at an affordable price point.

 

[chanchan05]

Because Android is a mobile OS while Windows 8 is the successor to Windows 7.

Personally I want my tablet to be more than just an a giant smartphone minus th phone capabilities.

Not sure if you read my first post in this thread: PC programs wont work on Win8 for tablets, unless they make separate programs for it or separate versions. CONFIRMED BY WINDOWS.
Windows 8 Tablets Won't Run PC Apps, After All - Windows - Operating system - Informationweek

Basically, you arent looking at the same thing as the PC Windows 8 and the tablets Windows 8. Major misconception for you. Win8 tablets will have specific mobile apps. Its going to be more like a large version of WinPhone8, much as Android tablets are just a big Android phone.

 

[investmenttech]

so basically from what you're saying is that Windows 8 tablets will come in two forms.

what if I am talking about intel based tablet, such as Samsung Series 7 Slate?

Imaging in one year's time, a intel based 11 inch tablet running Win8, can be used as a tablet and docked with mouse and keyboard.

And maybe even a displayport out. Turning the tablet into a full functional desktop.

Remember how Win7 killed Linux in the netbook market? The same thing might happen to Android tablets and iPads maybe.

 

[chanchan05]

so basically from what you're saying is that Windows 8 tablets will come in two forms.

what if I am talking about intel based tablet, such as Samsung Series 7 Slate?

Imaging in one year's time, a intel based 11 inch tablet running Win8, can be used as a tablet and docked with mouse and keyboard.

And maybe even a displayport out. Turning the tablet into a full functional desktop.

Remember how Win7 killed Linux in the netbook market? The same thing might happen to Android tablets and iPads maybe.

If its an intel based slate with an x64 or x86 chip, like the Series 7 and the MSI Wind, and you upgrade it to Win8, then you get the netbook version, so well, yes you get the full Win8. If you go for the light weight tablets, much like the Android tablets and iPad, you get the tablet version.

 

[Yeahha]

I doubt it will even make a ripple in the tablet market. MS has never been able to make a decent tablet at an affordable price point.

I have bolded the most important part of the statement above. As has been demonstrated in the past if a tablet cost the same as or more than the current industry leader it will not survive in the market. No matter how good the OS if MS can't find a way to make it cost less than the iPad it will not be a competitor in today's market.

 

[DexTyler]

As much as Android is great, I'd say that greatness is limited to phones for now. The tablets just aren't quite there yet, both OS and spec wise. Nor is the iPad.

What I really want is a tablet that works the same as my desktop and uses Windows. Having Windows on the go in tablet form and hopefully having full desktop versions of programs would be amazing.

 

[fablefox]

As much as Android is great, I'd say that greatness is limited to phones for now. The tablets just aren't quite there yet, both OS and spec wise. Nor is the iPad.

What I really want is a tablet that works the same as my desktop and uses Windows. Having Windows on the go in tablet form and hopefully having full desktop versions of programs would be amazing.

There is a lot of table like app using Win7 now. Asus IConia Tab W500, Asus Slate, some family of it's EE PC, and Toshiba Libretto W100 (which I might purchase next year).

Personally, I think it will kill some certain OS. Interoability is one of it.

 

[UssjTrunks]

I hope that tablets in general die off. They're the most useless technology of the 21st century, that people are actually willing to waste their money on.

I still don't understand what their intended use is. Are they supposed to fill some kind of niche between phones and laptops? Because there isn't any niche to fill. If I want to do something more productive that my phone isn't capable of doing, I will flip on my laptop, I won't reach for an even larger phone.

 

[Bob Maxey]

When MS releases Windows 8 which is a full operating system designed with touch capabilities, will it destroy any hope that Android will have in the tablet market? Considering the fact that even without Windows 8, Android is not doing all that great in the tablet market.

Archos has a tablet that can run Windows 7. It has been available for some time and there are others. I've seen one and I was not impressed.

Android can do well in the tablet market. What is needed is a killer tablet at a good price that captures the imagination of the public. We also need applications that look good on these tablets.

A quick search reveals there are no shortages of upcoming Windows 8 tablets. Or should I say, no shortage of announcements being announced. I have learned not to hold my breath for Vaporware so I'll believe it when I see it. My guess is if a few companies do not sell their Win8 tablets, all the rest will disappear.

HP, Nokia, Toshiba, Samsung and others are looking to release one or two, or so they be sayin'.

 

[Bob Maxey]

I hope that tablets in general die off. They're the most useless technology of the 21st century, that people are actually willing to waste their money on.

I still don't understand what their intended use is. Are they supposed to fill some kind of niche between phones and laptops? Because there isn't any niche to fill. If I want to do something more productive that my pone isn't capable of doing, I will flip on my laptop, I won't reach for an even larger phone.

Certainly, you are correct and millions of consumers drank the Kool-Aid. Apparently, someone with a big gun is forcing you to purchase one. You found a way that works for you and tablet users found their own way.

It is not just tablets. I hope These Thorium Laser powered cars die off, too. What are they good for? To replace my 1960 Olds Super 88? I mean the nerve of corporate America.

Tablet computers have many uses. I use my iPad, to a great extent to pay the bills. I bought it for a project and decided I liked the convenience. I can watch video, read a favored technical journal, answer email, etc. The phone is useless for those things I use my iPad for like watching video and a laptop is much less convienent.

Especially in the bathroom sitting on the turlet.

To each is own, I suppose.

 

[investmenttech]

I hope that tablets in general die off. They're the most useless technology of the 21st century, that people are actually willing to waste their money on.

if you think this way, a laptop is basically a tablet with keyboard attached to it. That's way Android and ipad will never be an useful computer, because it does not have an useful OS.

in the future, may that be one year or one decade, tablet will gradually replace laptop when they become more powerful.

 

[UssjTrunks]

if you think this way, a laptop is basically a tablet with keyboard attached to it. That's way Android and ipad will never be an useful computer, because it does not have an useful OS.

in the future, may that be one year or one decade, tablet will gradually replace laptop when they become more powerful.

But you'll still need a hardware keyboard and mouse to match the productivity of the laptop. Which would essentially turn your tablet into just another laptop. Unless you only use your tablet for basic entertainment, the touch screen format will never be able to match the productivity of laptop computing.

 

[chanchan05]

I hope that tablets in general die off. They're the most useless technology of the 21st century, that people are actually willing to waste their money on.

I still don't understand what their intended use is. Are they supposed to fill some kind of niche between phones and laptops? Because there isn't any niche to fill. If I want to do something more productive that my phone isn't capable of doing, I will flip on my laptop, I won't reach for an even larger phone.

I'd think it depends on the intended usage of the person. Tablets make it easy to go paperless actually, and are easier for reading ebooks than on a laptop, with better battery life in general. Its easy to annotate, highlight and just make random scribles on say pdf lecture transcriptions than on a laptop.

but the biggest thing is for graphic designers, its easier to draw on the touch screen than on a laptop.

However then again, everything I said would be better on a full laptop with a touchscreen, like the ones HP sells.

 

[Puddin422]

I went to Best Buy a couple nights ago to look at tablets, and they had 3 ultra thin, lightweight full sized laptops on display. Man! If they didn't START at $800, I'd be all over it, and completely forget the tablet!

I want something lightweight and minimal bulk for travelling.

When the prices drop on these, and many more thin, light models become available, there will be an even smaller niche for tablets.

 

[fablefox]

But you'll still need a hardware keyboard and mouse to match the productivity of the laptop. Which would essentially turn your tablet into just another laptop. Unless you only use your tablet for basic entertainment, the touch screen format will never be able to match the productivity of laptop computing.

Nope, you are wrong there. Actually, current GUI and interface is not modern enough.

Remember dos days (if you are that old) people only input using keyboard. All software interface follows that route (for keyboard input). Then came mouse, and GUI interface comes with it. Actually in the process people complain that mouse is causing slowliness - lagging, since you are not using both of your hand or something. Some people sworn over their beloved shortcut. But GUI improves. Now nobody in their right mind would use either mac, linux or windows without a mouse.

Touch screen used to be expensive. But now it's available for the masses. Touch interface improves, there are even version that support 10 fingers (made by microsoft or something). Developers need to play catch up. Give a few years and you'll use touch screen for most of the thing. From Win 7 to WIn 8, Microsoft actually did some research and it actually follow the 80/20 rule. 80% of the time we only use 20% portion of the OS. Most of the time you use a software, there are probability it's interface is easy enough to use with a tablet. Tablet are not created for today gui, it's created for future gui.