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!@#$ Windows 8 preview

pastafarian

Pâtes avec votre foie
I'm the family geek and someone who has trouble saying NO, consequently I've become the local IT dept. Since yesterday, I've received 4 calls from friends asking how to uninstall the windows 8 preview! First off, though I haven't installed it yet myself I am positive it tells users that it can't be uninstalled. Removal requires an OS install. You didn't need my advice before you wandered into OS beta land, so why should you need me now? The other issue is that it seems a fair bit of people that are trying 8 aren't liking 8. I don't recall this being the case with Vista or win7 previews. My issue with 8 is metro. I find it garish on the phones and as a computer interface though I haven't had the opportunity to try it on a tablet yet. On the pc, in my brief use I found I went to the desktop and stayed there, which is not any better than remaining with win7. I'm still planning on re installing windows on this Vista era core2duo laptop, so I'm going to give 8 a longer try on it first. On the phone, no matter how good WP8 works, I can't get beyond that initial stack of flashing block look. Don't like it, don't want it.
 
Have you seen this:

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Love it Presidente!
As someone who uses Chrome and almost exclusively browses the web for computer use, I think Metro would appeal to me. It's nice to have the little "animated tiles" (or whatever the hell they call them) and quick launches to a couple programs.
No way I'm going to install any sort of beta or "preview" though.
 
Why not just install it to a virtual machine?

Good advice, one I would have given my friends if they had asked. At the very least, install to another partition. For me OTH, I'm planning on wiping my win7 install regardless because a bit of "bit rot" has crept in. It's a little slow in general and having issues with account switching. The usual performance fix's/tweaks didn't improve things and after almost 2 years (too long!)it's time to nuke it and restore to a stored image! It's no longer a mission critical machine in our house, so play away!
 
I'm waiting for Microsoft's next O/S. Seems like every other O/S out of MS is the one to use. Granted Microsoft has probably figured out that consumers are onto their little secret and might try to release the next O/S faster and then focus more on the following O/S.
 
I'm waiting for Microsoft's next O/S. Seems like every other O/S out of MS is the one to use. Granted Microsoft has probably figured out that consumers are onto their little secret and might try to release the next O/S faster and then focus more on the following O/S.

Rule of thumb is never go with an even numbered release from MS. ;)
 
TBH, Metro is a little ... disturbing, unless you actually have a touch enabled device. I have a Bamboo touch pad, and it works really well with W8.

Some of the back end side of W8 is also disconcerting when you first go into it, but by god, that Task Manager alone is well worth having W8 on a computer. It looks like M$ has made good use of having Mark Russinovich on staff, finally.

Of course, being a relatively knowledgeable person about computers, I knew better than to even put it on a different partition until I worked out the details on how it was going to affect my current OS. More specifically, if you installed W7 betas on a different partition with Vista, it changed things in the MBR, which made for some very unusual errors once you tried to remove it and revert o Vista. With XP, fuhgeddabouddit, it wasn't playing nice at all. My guess was that with W8, it is (?) W7 sensitive, so if you put it on a separate partition and then want to remove it it won't hose the W7 MBR and boot partition as badly - but I'm not one to test that out on a production machine. So, I installed it in VBox.

I though about using separate physical HDs, and using my BIOS to select which HD to boot off of - since they're hot-swappable and all - but that's too much work for now. I have more than enough specs on my machine to share between the two OSs as host and guest, so I opted for the easier route. For others with limited memory, it may be more worth it to do the separate drive thing, complete with only having a certain physical drive connected when installing W8, so that each drive has its own complete boot partition, MBR, etc. Then, when you boot the computer, use the BIOS to select which HD to boot off of, and presto, a worry free W8 install that won't mess with your current OS.

Of course, most users will never think that far ahead - they see "Beta" and think "Ooooooh, I want to see how it works!" and click yes and OK more times than they can count without reading a damned thing.....

I feel your pain, pasta, but in this case you're gonna have to be blunt with them and 1) Show them where it clearly told them that this was an irreversible procedure, and 2) Show them that it is going to take a bit of time to revert, including all of their data and stuff, and that your time is not cheap.

(aside)

As soon as M$ incorporates a way to revert to a regular desktop permanently, most of the complaints with W8 will go away. Unlike Vista, which simply was not cut out for machines it came installed on (or, more appropriately, the machines were not cut out for Vista), this is actually an enjoyable OS beta.

Then again, though, when Vista betas were out I was super excited at the backend changes - as in having UAC to help control admin level access to files and programs, something that XP sorely missed.

Also, FWIW:

Windows 7 is actually Windows 6.1. Furthermore, the original version (prior to SP1) was Build 7600.

So, though named Windows 7, it's not really Windows 7. That, and the fact that Windows 98 blew Windows 95 out of the water kind of nixes the even numbered M$ OS theory.

Just sayin'... :p
 
To me, it's all pointing to W8 being a bigger fubar than either Unity or Gnome 3 managed... Getting the popcorn ready now! :-D
 
Well, I have a bit more experience with Win8. I know a lot of the tech journalists are waxing poetic about this one, but as others have stated it's obvious that it was made for touch based tablets then adapted to the pc. Simple tasks are harder. The more I look at Metro, the less I like it aesthetically and I hated it from the start. To me, it seems like M$ is trying so(too) hard to avoid similarities with any other mobile ui even if that means it's hideous and inconvenient. Still a work in progress so there's a chance they'll pull it together. Fortunately, win7 doesn't go away with a win8 release. If it did, then there's always linux or OSx. I figured I'd live with win8 for a couple of months and give it a good workout then most likely restore win7, but I'm thinking of dumping it tonight.
 
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