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Yahoo! says byebye to China

mikedt

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http://www.bbc.com/news/business-31957704

"The Beijing research centre is Yahoo's only remaining physical presence in the country after it sold its Chinese operations to Alibaba in 2005.
A spokesperson said "around 350 jobs" would be eliminated.


"We are constantly making changes to align resources, and to foster better collaboration and innovation across our business," Yahoo said in a statement.

The news that Yahoo was closing its last remaining office in mainland China travelled fast."

Don't think I'll miss them, not used anything Yahoo! in a long time. Google is just about still in the PRC, maintaining a minimal presence at google.cn, Translate, Maps and Ads, but much everything else is blocked by the GFW.

It really leaves Apple, Microsoft, Oracle, Adobe, Amazon, Oracle, Disney, etc. US corporations with a significant presence here, focused on China, and are not blocked.
 
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Oracle is listed twice.. because they are that important in China?

with Apple and Microsoft not being blocked.. how does that make competition with Android?
 
dan330 said:
Oracle is listed twice.. because they are that important in China?
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My typo.. LOL. .. although I did actually visit Oracle's huge impressive campus in Shenzhen about four years ago.

dan330 said:
with Apple and Microsoft not being blocked.. how does that make competition with Android?
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iOS is the main competition for Android in China, don't think Win Phone has done well at all here, I've never seen one in the wild, and the carriers don't have them now. All of Apple's and Microsoft's internet services are available here, and completely localized as well. Google used to have a full presence, music streaming etc, upto about 4 years ago. But as of last year, anything that isn't google.cn, is completely blocked, Gmail, Play, Hangouts, Search, Plus, etc. all blocked. Android devices are completely localized with Chinese services, such as app stores, etc., nothing Google. Yahoo is accessible at the moment, but it's their Vietnam portal, nothing Chinese.
 
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Yahoo's Alibaba shares worth $40 billion, why do they need to make something else in China just for losing money?
 
Yahoo and other U.S.-based Web companies have faced issues around Internet censorship and local competition in China. Any business related to information and technology is high risk in a place like China.
 
virstox said:
Yahoo and other U.S.-based Web companies have faced issues around Internet censorship and local competition in China.
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If any corporation(not just US) wishes to do business in China and not be blocked, they have to comply with the rules and laws, period. Yahoo did try playing the China game correctly, just like Apple, Microsoft and Oracle do, but in the end it wasn't profitable for them, but they've had many problems over the years anyway. Pulling out of China is one part of yet another round of downsizing, reorganizing and money saving for them. "...as part of a worldwide consolidation aimed at cutting costs." ...from the BBC story. Even bankrupt Radio Shack had a stab at trying to do business in the PRC.


virstox said:
Any business related to information and technology is high risk in a place like China.
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Information and technology might be high risk in other countries as well. :p
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yes..
bunch of rednecks getting into mischief = those "yahoos" in the backyard wont leave the sleeping sheeps alone!
 
EarlyMon said:
I think that this is insightful for understanding what went wrong with Yahoo all along.

http://gizmodo.com/5910223/how-yahoo-killed-flickr-and-lost-the-internet

They never figured out what business they were in and developed a corporate ego with a twisted view of themselves, the competition, and their market.
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Interesting article. I don't know much about Flickr, but imagine that same article could have been written from many different perspectives. What rings true is the bit about them wanting to re-fight battles they've already lost. A company can only reinvent itself so many times before people stop paying attention. Every article I read about Yahoo is about their latest turnaround attempt or what flashy CEO they've hired, not about what they do, (whatever that is now).
Side note: it must be a hipster thing to use so many curse words in a semi news article. I'm not offended by that kind of thing in the least, but it becomes more about the writer saying "look at me, aren't I cool" instead of the subject at hand when he uses the "F" word every other paragraph lol.
 
In other news, Yahoo won the contract and is now the default search in Firefox.

Google revenue is up from when they had the contract - people just simply switch their default search back - and now Google doesn't have to pay the percentage for clicks coming out of Firefox.

Attention Mozilla - what did you learn?

Attention Yahoo - now do you get that you need more than exposure to get use?

Repackaged Bing results are not a treat.

Go home. You blew it.
 
Flickr and how it could have been a major player in social media..
what about myspace.. launched in 2003. did it not have photo scaring feature?

(note: I have never used any social media sites.. so I don't know what they have or not have)
 
MySpace was more about - here's a free web page, do something.

Flickr didn't try to be a social network - just the best way to share photos.

In about no time, pros were posting portfolios - you could surf the eye candy in your off time, be amazed and get encouragement.

I still use Flickr. Each photo I upload, I can control the privacy level, and share different sizes. I have some 24 MB raw processed files on mine along with snaps that I can share as text or web sized - Flickr provides the resampling for free, while maintaining the original, and it just works.

Plus - it's integrated into my Android gallery, can be viewed with any browser (hear that Google? No, of course not) and doesn't require an account to just enjoy the site.

Picasa from Google started up to give it a run for the money, but no, they had to bork that beyond recognition.
 
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