I pay %37 of my paycheck to taxes...

[Crude]

27% in form of income (state and fed), fica, medicaid. Another 5% in property taxes until this month. Inexplicably my property taxes doubled without the value of my house changing a dime ans so now I pay 10% on property taxes.

I think it's time to rent again.

Mind you there is at least another 6% in form of sale tax on that.

 

[copestag]

thats all? dont you realize its your honor and patriotic duty to pay taxes? you should call and ask for an increase...... you must not love America

 

[mpw]

7% + 3%sales tax +>1% property taxes

 

[bknewtype]

thats pretty much what i pay for taxes. fck govt jobs =[

 

[WAdude]

27% in form of income (state and fed), fica, medicaid. Another 5% in property taxes until this month. Inexplicably my property taxes doubled without the value of my house changing a dime ans so now I pay 10% on property taxes.

I think it's time to rent again.

Mind you there is at least another 6% in form of sale tax on that.

Cant wait till they tax breathing air because its releasing cabon dioxide into the enviornment. (not really)

 

[copestag]

Cant wait till they tax breathing air because its releasing cabon dioxide into the enviornment. (not really)

they already put this policy in place...... its the mandatory insurance clause of the new healthcare scam...... enforced by the IRS..... you are now officially being taxed for breathing

 

[TheBeardedMann]

thats pretty much what i pay for taxes. fck govt jobs =[

Not all government jobs are bad.

 

[WAdude]

they already put this policy in place...... its the mandatory insurance clause of the new healthcare scam...... enforced by the IRS..... you are now officially being taxed for breathing

No way! Are you kidding or serious?

 

[andrizoid]

No way! Are you kidding or serious?

im hoping your kidding :/

 

[novice_x]

Americans For Fair Taxation: Americans For Fair Taxation

 

[ckochinsky125]

thats pretty much what i pay for taxes. fck govt jobs =[

you cry about gov't jobs but when it comes down to it they have great beneifts so you can bitch and moan about the taxes you pay but if you hate it so bad then quit try getting another job i know there are alot of people out there who would love to have your job.

 

[hakr100]

thats pretty much what i pay for taxes. fck govt jobs =[

We could save about $400 billion a year or more by cutting back on our military spending, and that would produce the bonus of our not being able to mount any more long Bush wars of choice.

 

[clutchy]

i got an idea why don't we cut back on the obscene .gov pay and benefits AND cut back military spending... and how about we cut these corrupt countries loose and focus on this one?

sounds great huh? who's on board?

 

[WAdude]

i got an idea why don't we cut back on the obscene .gov pay and benefits AND cut back military spending... and how about we cut these corrupt countries loose and focus on this one?

sounds great huh? who's on board?

I agree, cut a couple of loose ends here and there and wed be fine. Puerto Rico is one of them. Being from there I have realized its government is a lying POS that steals some of the money the US gives to the commonwealth.

 

[Crude]

i got an idea why don't we cut back on the obscene .gov pay and benefits AND cut back military spending... and how about we cut these corrupt countries loose and focus on this one?

sounds great huh? who's on board?

I have no problem with military spending. I want the social programs gone. They are after all much more costly then the military.

 

[Filipino.Cowboy]

Agreed. The government's sole purpose is to protect its citizens. That includes the military. Not programs to get someone a cell phone or internet if they can't afford it.

As far as cutting back military spending, if you want peace, prepare for war. You would be less likely to pick a fight with someone bigger, stronger, and faster than you eh?

 

[clutchy]

I have no problem with military spending. I want the social programs gone. They are after all much more costly then the military.

ok, but you can't address one w/o the other... it's called compromise and really... there's no one left to fight anyway. Especially with conventional arms.

 

[Filipino.Cowboy]

True. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for helping my fellow man when he is down, but only when he truly is down and out for the count. There are way too many programs that tend to give people an incentive to stay on government aid. Not sure if that came across clear. What I mean is, get rid of the silly cell phone, internet, etc programs for the poor (its not a right to have those), and put tighter restrictions on aid. Too many don't strive for the better job while receiving aid.

As far is no one left to fight, CHINA, IRAN, RUSSIA? They are rapidly expanding their military and are coming up on our level of technology. However, the comment about conventional arms i'm with you on. One of China's big things is cyber warfare. And i'm afraid we are not as well prepared for that as we should be.

 

[it.]

I don't like what our taxpayer dollars are going towards. Teachers are being layed off, schools are overcrowded, and the government has the nerve to build a $578 million Taj Mahal school:
America's priciest public school: By the numbers - The Week.

At my public school, we had these perfectly working computers and then the school threw them out and bought a ton of brand new $2,000 Imac desktops. Then a few months later, they bought some HP Touchsmart computers! WTH! I love the computers and all but we're in a huge budget deficit. I really don't think the students NEED touch screen computers. The least they could do is buy refurbished... I don't pay taxes yet considering I'm still in high school but I can understand why people are frustrated.

 

[AndyLL]

I have no problem with military spending. I want the social programs gone. They are after all much more costly then the military.

You need to go read the budget. Social programs are a drop in the bucket compared to defense spending.

 

[clutchy]

You need to go read the budget. Social programs are a drop in the bucket compared to defense spending.

they're not... but ok.

 

[Crude]

You need to go read the budget. Social programs are a drop in the bucket compared to defense spending.

OH? I think you're looking at the wrong budget.
United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

According to this military spending is 23% while social security and medicaid/medicaid alone are 39%

 

[AndyLL]

OH? I think you're looking at the wrong budget.
United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

According to this military spending is 23% while social security and medicaid/medicaid alone are 39%

Social security and M/M are not discretionary social programs. They are programs funded by their own taxes. They're run a surplus every year. They are fully funded until 2039 and that's without taking into account the IOUs they hold.

Since we pay directly into the fund and expect to receive benefits in the future from the fund they are not classified as discretionary.

Most honest people would classify the 'social programs' as those such as welfare, foodstamps, school meals, section 8 housing, EIC...

In other words social programs where low income people receive handouts that the rest of us pay for.

Those are discretionary social programs.... funds for them are determined in each budget and they are paid out of the general fund.

In the 2010 budget there is $1.4 trillion in discretionary spending.

The department of defense is 663.7 Billion of that... almost half. Add in another 100 Billion for Veterans admin and Homeland security

HHS, Education, and HUD are only around 160 Billion combined and that's everything... not just the welfare type social programs.

As I said. The welfare type social programs are a drop in the bucket compared to defense.

If we had a payroll tax just to fund Defense it would be over 10%. Maybe that's what we should do... force defense spending to be funded with a specific tax.

Then we'd see how many Cons want to keep spending 700 Billion plus a year on it.

Andy

 

[copestag]

Social security and M/M are not discretionary social programs. They are programs funded by their own taxes. They're run a surplus every year. They are fully funded until 2039 and that's without taking into account the IOUs they hold.

Since we pay directly into the fund and expect to receive benefits in the future from the fund they are not classified as discretionary.

Most honest people would classify the 'social programs' as those such as welfare, foodstamps, school meals, section 8 housing, EIC...

In other words social programs where low income people receive handouts that the rest of us pay for.

Those are discretionary social programs.... funds for them are determined in each budget and they are paid out of the general fund.

In the 2010 budget there is $1.4 trillion in discretionary spending.

The department of defense is 663.7 Billion of that... almost half. Add in another 100 Billion for Veterans admin and Homeland security

HHS, Education, and HUD are only around 160 Billion combined and that's everything... not just the welfare type social programs.

As I said. The welfare type social programs are a drop in the bucket compared to defense.

If we had a payroll tax just to fund Defense it would be over 10%. Maybe that's what we should do... force defense spending to be funded with a specific tax.

Then we'd see how many Cons want to keep spending 700 Billion plus a year on it.

Andy

to be fair......... yes I agree if you break it all out "welfare" programs only account for about 2% of the budget....... other programs like arts&science, etc. account for a much higher percentage (more programs we shouldnt be investing in)...... and defense spending accounts for about 40% (when ALL war spending is included)....... however of all the programs "social", "defense", "welfare", "studies on foreign hookers", "studies on why earthworms prefer dirt to concrete", etc........... ONLY 1 of them is mandated in the constitution..... everything else is just pork (from both sides of the aisle)

 

[AndyLL]

to be fair......... yes I agree if you break it all out "welfare" programs only account for about 2% of the budget....... other programs like arts&science, etc. account for a much higher percentage (more programs we shouldnt be investing in)...... and defense spending accounts for about 40% (when ALL war spending is included)....... however of all the programs "social", "defense", "welfare", "studies on foreign hookers", "studies on why earthworms prefer dirt to concrete", etc........... ONLY 1 of them is mandated in the constitution..... everything else is just pork (from both sides of the aisle)

There is a difference between mandated and allowed.

The Feds are Allowed to collect taxes.

Congress is Allowed to spend that money.

States are welcome to opt out of that spending.

Congress is not Mandated to spend 50% of taxes on defense.

The Government is no Mandated to spend 200 Billion/year on wars.

Your arguement doesn't make sense. The programs you claim we have to cut are a small % of the budget but you seem to feel we are mandated to spend as much as we do on defense.