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Droid X vs Samsung Galaxy S

I just did Full Metal Jacket (also from a bluray rip) for my iPhone the other day. Maybe I'll do it for the Vibrant and we can see how fleshtones compare, instead of CGI.
 
You misunderstand what I did...I took that picture of the phones displaying a picture of a shirt being sold on eBay. The pic is real. You can insist it's doctored if you like but anyone who owns a Galaxy S knows it isn't.
Thanks for clarifying that, I did misinterpret what was said. I was not asserting anything was doctored but rather that having been through plenty of display related 'shootouts' over the years, I have found that any side-by-side comparisons are heavily dependent on the device setup, the media and the environmental conditions. It's usually possible to make any display look better than another by selectively adjusting these variables. That's why to me side-by-side comparisons that don't identify anything about the conditions or device settings are of limited value.

You can't probably do much about the environment but noting the display settings and using varying media may help make subjective comparisons of screens a little more useful. There are some good video setup and testing resources out there that include color bars, pluge patterns, different types of video and graphics, alternating pixel patterns, gray scales, etc. and it would be nice to see someone convert some of those, if it isn't already done, and use them for comparing displays.
 
Understood... no special calibrations were done with that pic. Basically I maxed out the brightness of both phones, went to the browser of both phones and opened this image:
http://filipinoswagger.com/images/TheNinong2.jpg

I opened up the camera f-stop to the point where the phones look the way it does to my eyes and took the pic. Try it... open that link above with your phone, max out the brightness and compare it my results.
 
Agreed... better to beat off to 3D benchmarks, otherwise what's the point of all that horsepower?

GLBenchmark 1.1 Result Database


Then it was a defective unit. Never judge a phone by a demo unit... There's nothing laggy about my stock Vibrant. Here's a sample clip I made with a Vibrant against the iPhone4. Despite the iPhone's far more advanced IPS LCD than your Droid-X's TFT LCD, the Vibrant summarily destroys it.

YouTube - Samsung Vibrant (Galaxy S) vs. iPhone 4: Monsters, Inc. clips
Yep, might be a defective unit. The Samsung Galaxy phones should be great out of the box...until you load it with tons of apps. Then it goes downhills because of the read/writes in the background. That's where the stall fix comes in, and the problem most Galaxy owners is seeing.

But there is a fix and after applying it, your phone will fly.

I'm a bit confused how people are trying to aim for 100% accurate colors...your phones colors won't be accurate. You need a controlled light source for that to happen, which isn't going to likely happen with a phone. Its not as if the blue is shown as green or something absurd.
 
Understood... no special calibrations were done with that pic. Basically I maxed out the brightness of both phones, went to the browser of both phones and opened this image:
http://filipinoswagger.com/images/TheNinong2.jpg

I opened up the camera f-stop to the point where the phones look the way it does to my eyes and took the pic. Try it... open that link above with your phone, max out the brightness and compare it my results.

That's wild cuz on my X, it looks like the Samsung. I have to look at it off angle for it to look like that Ebay pic. That's the pro for Amoled I agreeded with, the viewing angles.

Hmmmm...maybe have the phone parallel to the camera to show the screen more accurate? A straight on shot? Unless u are comparing the viewing angles.

Just viewing this pic on my phone.....ppl really need to see these screens in person, LCD and Amoled...in person looks alot better than on camera.
 
What good is a great screen if you can only use it 1/2 the day?
Droid X, Droid 2 have best Android battery life | TG Daily

The Droid X as top dog is somewhat surprising as it is one of the most feature-heavy devices ever built for Android. All of the Droid devices by Motorola clocked in with favorable results, although the Droid Incredible, manufactured by HTC, came in near the bottom. The very bottom of the list was reserved for Samsung's Galaxy S devices, which are hit pretty hard with bad battery consumption.
 
What good is a great screen if you can only use it 1/2 the day?
Droid X, Droid 2 have best Android battery life | TG Daily

The Droid X as top dog is somewhat surprising as it is one of the most feature-heavy devices ever built for Android. All of the Droid devices by Motorola clocked in with favorable results, although the Droid Incredible, manufactured by HTC, came in near the bottom. The very bottom of the list was reserved for Samsung's Galaxy S devices, which are hit pretty hard with bad battery consumption.

Read some of the responses to this "test" and you'll see why it is a very inaccurate measure of battery life. Having owned both the X and the Samsung I can say my X did last longer but not by a lot. Both would make it through a typical day for me with the X hitting the charger as I went to bed around 40% and the Samsung usually somewhere between 25 and 40%.
 
I seem like the only one that isn't all butthurt over the fact that the Fascinate will only have 2GB of internal memory. I really don't care since all my essential things get saved onto the microSD card. Also I am not the type of person that downloads hundreds of apps that will take up the 2GB of internal memory. Even if I was, Froyo will be released shortly which will allow me to save apps to my microSD.

2GB of internal memory is certainly no dealbreaker for me.
 
Read some of the responses to this "test" and you'll see why it is a very inaccurate measure of battery life. Having owned both the X and the Samsung I can say my X did last longer but not by a lot. Both would make it through a typical day for me with the X hitting the charger as I went to bed around 40% and the Samsung usually somewhere between 25 and 40%.

Froyo basically doubled my X's battery life. I can go almost but not quite 48 hours unplugged on a single charge with the extended battery and Froyo. And that's not letting the phone sit there unusued for 48 hours, that's surfing the web, installing apps, listening to bTunes, making voice calls, reading Engadget and Facebook, etc. I don't stream from Pandora or any other Internet radio but that's the only thing I don't do on my X.

You should try your X with Froyo and see the difference between it and the Incredible or any Galaxy S. My friend hates how his Incredible can't make it through a single day of moderate use, though he doesn't seem to be aware there is an extended battery for it which fits in the stock battery space.
 
I seem like the only one that isn't all butthurt over the fact that the Fascinate will only have 2GB of internal memory. I really don't care since all my essential things get saved onto the microSD card. Also I am not the type of person that downloads hundreds of apps that will take up the 2GB of internal memory. Even if I was, Froyo will be released shortly which will allow me to save apps to my microSD.

2GB of internal memory is certainly no dealbreaker for me.

One question: With Froyo, we know you can install apps on the SD card. When you do that, let's say the phone dies, and the card survives. You get the new phone. You put the old memory card in the new phone. Do all your apps pop up and auto install and work? I know pictures and music and videos will come up just fine, but what about apps? If they do, then I will likely sway myself more in your direction of saying that the 2GB doesn't matter, and I will PREFER to put the apps on the SD card (after buying a faster one than the crappy class 2 you'll probably get with it ...) But if that's not the case, then I would want anything that I use frequently (apps, ringtones, wallpapers, eBooks, etc.) stored on the phone's internal memory, and ONLY the irreplaceable stuff (like pictures and personal videos) stored on the SD card. That way the frequently used stuff is all still there, even if I need to take the card out to give a pic to a buddy or put something on my card from something else. I just fear that the 2GB will fill up fast for me.

Froyo basically doubled my X's battery life. I can go almost but not quite 48 hours unplugged on a single charge with the extended battery and Froyo. And that's not letting the phone sit there unusued for 48 hours, that's surfing the web, installing apps, listening to bTunes, making voice calls, reading Engadget and Facebook, etc. I don't stream from Pandora or any other Internet radio but that's the only thing I don't do on my X.

You should try your X with Froyo and see the difference between it and the Incredible or any Galaxy S. My friend hates how his Incredible can't make it through a single day of moderate use, though he doesn't seem to be aware there is an extended battery for it which fits in the stock battery space.

FYI, Verizon informed me tonight that Froyo is rolling out to Droid X handsets now, as an official update. It's segmented, so not everyone will get hit at the same time, but it's out now, so if you'll have the Droid X, you can put "official" Froyo on it soon.

Edit: Tom's hardware is also not the only reviewer to be impressed by the Droid X's battery life. Others, such as AnandTech, were impressed as well. It certainly has killer talk time for sure!
 
2GB of internal memory is pretty serious. Remember that apps need to be updated by the developers to support install to SD, and most developers likely won't care. Also remember that the base install of the OS + bundled bloatware will consume a fair amount of that 2GB, my X came with a couple hundred MB already occupied out of the available 8GB of internal memory out of the box.
 
FYI, Verizon informed me tonight that Froyo is rolling out to Droid X handsets now, as an official update. It's segmented, so not everyone will get hit at the same time, but it's out now, so if you'll have the Droid X, you can put "official" Froyo on it soon.

The last I knew, Froyo is rolling out now to the Incredible, not the X. We (X users) are patiently waiting for that.
 
The last I knew, Froyo is rolling out now to the Incredible, not the X. We (X users) are patiently waiting for that.

Well, Mindy @ Verizon told me over the phone last night that Froyo was already hitting the X OTA, too. She could've been mistaken though. She also tried to tell me the X was AMOLED. :rolleyes:
 
2GB of internal memory is pretty serious. Remember that apps need to be updated by the developers to support install to SD, and most developers likely won't care. Also remember that the base install of the OS + bundled bloatware will consume a fair amount of that 2GB, my X came with a couple hundred MB already occupied out of the available 8GB of internal memory out of the box.
It'll be fine. Mobile apps are not really that big in file size. Its like 8 MB here, 1 MB here, 5 MB there. Rarely does any app go over 20mb (Fennec did and ppl are flaming how bloated it is)
 
It'll be fine. Mobile apps are not really that big in file size. Its like 8 MB here, 1 MB here, 5 MB there. Rarely does any app go over 20mb (Fennec did and ppl are flaming how bloated it is)

Bigger apps like Mozilla Fennec are the future, not the exception. If you are expecting a full desktop browsing experience with Flash and other plugins and a full rendering engine, you will need to get used to desktop-like memory footprints. I expect that the full version of Mozilla Fennec will have a Firefox-like memory requirement, which will push our 512MB of RAM very hard as well as occupy lots of internal memory.
 
So, really. What's the the general opinion here? X or the Fascinate? I have the X. 2 days left in the 30 day window.
What you should do is go to T-Mobile or AT&T and play around with one of those Galaxy S phones. That will be the closest representation of the Fascinate that you are going to get. The Fascinate doesn't come out until the 9th (unofficial but pretty much confirmed), so you won't be able to play with it before your 30 day window with the Droid X is up, obviously. The Fascinate is essentially the same thing as the T-Mobile Vibrant but the Fascinate will have a LED flash. But the shape is the same.

So go to T-Mobile and use the Vibrant for a little while to see if it is something you want to give up your Droid X for.
 
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