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Thefoodman52
Android Expert
I actually have several friends here in Tallahassee that are a year younger than me (I'm 19, do the math) that carry pistols with them.... granted they aren't the uhh.... shall we say, straightest shooters on the block. They sell uhh.... 'products'. If you just get a small one and only bring it with you to places you feel nervous about you should be fine. I'm assuming you drive, just keep it somewhere within reach in the car, glove box, center console, wherever you can while keeping it concealed but within reach. Chances are, your parents are going to be understanding about that and would more than likely agree with you on it.
Tino
Member
Don't take this the wrong way, but I'm glad I don't live in the USA. Frankly I don't want to live anywhere where I don't feel comfortable leaving my house without a gun.
TheBeardedMann
Well-Known Member
Guns don't kill people, I kill people. 
Thefoodman52
Android Expert
InstantKarma
Android Expert
Don't take this the wrong way, but there were several times in my recent visit to London that I was uncomfortable that I didn't have one.
Just a few days after we visited Trafalgar Square, three young people beat a gay man to death there. In broad daylight. In Trafalgar wall-to-wall-people Square.
Your country isn't any safer than mine.
Maybe it's an attitude thing, rather than location; I'm British and haven't feel the need to carry a gun in either London or the US(although not Chicago which I hear is infested with armed criminals), so maybe the British are just tougher/less scared.
Aiyan
Android Enthusiast
Seems like I hit a nerve with you, population doesn't matter. As you said, population is small - but it also means law enforcement is lower right. Did you know that we got less law enforcement per population then USA.
Did you also know that Oslo area, (not just metro) got a population of 1.8 million people. If you do so, you would understand that even by this many people in one area we're still doing much better then almost every other city this size in US. Which makes me wonder, why is it then so much more violence and homicides in US vs Norway.
Talking about King, thanks for at least trying though.
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Aww, did I hit a nerve?
Now where did I say, if someone attacks you - you just need to lay down and get beaten? It's clearly to say, if you get threaten and life is in danger. You DO what you need to do.
But carrying a gun doesn't make that rules apply and that also makes the homicide rate higher then what it needs to be.
Also for a small bit lesson of how different the prisons are vs US: Norway's Halden Fengsel Prison: Humane Rehab for Inmates - TIME
Maybe it's an attitude thing, rather than location; I'm British and haven't feel the need to carry a gun in either London or the US(although not Chicago which I hear is infested with armed criminals), so maybe the British are just tougher/less scared.
Cheers MPW, I lived one year in London as well (Hendon area at Barnet). I didn't feel unsafe there once, like any other cities you learn fast where you shouldn't go. There is of course spots here and there that is no go Tottenham Hale - Seven Sisters for a example.
Knowing there is CCTV cams everywhere help a lot and something you also notice, even though not many people really go too serious about the Terrorist bombing - you feel that most people that are living and working in London have a big attachment to it. The city for me felt safe and onguard, if you go out. You usual will always see some sort of a security team, even if you're outside of the central area.
So my impression on London was great for my one year living there and being all around. Be if it was one day tourist at Piccadelly Circus, partying in Shoreditch or concerts at O2 area at Brixton.
Crude
Android Expert
Lots of ignorance and wishful thinking here. I grantee I have done more actually research on and case analisys then anyone here and the truth is that an armed person is a person with options. Who that person is, his nerves, his training can dramatically improve his chances of survival. An unarmed person is a victim.
I don't condone shooting a person for a phone though if I were on a jury I'd have to thank the person for doing so as I'm not stuck with the tab for keeping him confined...
Just Facts.com Start here
I don't condone shooting a person for a phone though if I were on a jury I'd have to thank the person for doing so as I'm not stuck with the tab for keeping him confined...
Just Facts.com Start here
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faber78
Guest
i had to stop reading, couldnt take anymore.
here is maryland conceal carry unless its changed;
Maryland law contains provisions for citizens to apply for a concealed carry permit under a limited set of circumstances. These include several occupational reasons such as business owners or their employee who makes large cash deposits, retired police officers, doctors, pharmacists, private detectives, security guards, and railroad police. Correctional officers (who do not require a permit while on duty but cannot carry off duty) may obtain a permit if they can provide legally documented evidence of threats on their life. Similarly, private citizens can obtain a permit if they provide evidence of 3 death threats that have been documented by the police.[14] Detractors have complained, however, that the permitting process is capricious, and only those with political or police connections can obtain a permit.[15]
Concealed carry in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
^looks like a b.s. deal to me.
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on another note, some of you pussies need to go keep being victims apparently.
with people like you around the criminals will always know they have someone to steal, rape, and assault....
here is maryland conceal carry unless its changed;
Maryland law contains provisions for citizens to apply for a concealed carry permit under a limited set of circumstances. These include several occupational reasons such as business owners or their employee who makes large cash deposits, retired police officers, doctors, pharmacists, private detectives, security guards, and railroad police. Correctional officers (who do not require a permit while on duty but cannot carry off duty) may obtain a permit if they can provide legally documented evidence of threats on their life. Similarly, private citizens can obtain a permit if they provide evidence of 3 death threats that have been documented by the police.[14] Detractors have complained, however, that the permitting process is capricious, and only those with political or police connections can obtain a permit.[15]
Concealed carry in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
^looks like a b.s. deal to me.
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on another note, some of you pussies need to go keep being victims apparently.
with people like you around the criminals will always know they have someone to steal, rape, and assault....
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faber78
Guest
congratulations, maryland sucks ass....
InstantKarma
Android Expert
Aww, did I hit a nerve?
Not even on your best day.
I'll say it again: I have less of an issue with firearm restrictions than with the concept of trying a crime victim for the level of force they used in resisting that crime.
Aiyan
Android Enthusiast
Yeah, there is a good line between brawl and life threatning situation. Thanks for saying this better then me there. Then I'm on same wavelenght as you.
On the firearm issue, let me clear it up on my point of view instead of being provocative.
I understand why people defend the rule of having firearms and want to have a mean of defending themself, even though I disagree with normal citizens can own a firearm.
I'm quite sure we in Norway is more "lucky" in terms of those rules, since it always have been that way. So it's never really been a problem with firearms issue on the crime statestic, those few who have used it either have been into heavy duty gangs or tragic police story. (two cases of that in past 10 years)
But on the other side, if we take a look on USA - this rule have been around for some time already, going back to no firearms law will not be possible to achieve at all. It's already a integrated part of your society and whether this good or bad. I don't really know, all I know is that you can't really turn back on this law.
I still think it's easier to perform a crime with this law and it does show it raises the homicide count drastically, but as you also said: "It may/will protect life."
So I'm pretty much just creating a debate, seeing people is touchy on this subject - I wanted to poke some thoughts out of it. All in all, what is the best law - I don't know, rather - we don't know.
Different circumstances creates different situations be if it's Norway or USA.
But back on topic: I'm happy you escaped with you life there mate, as most people said. Better it was your phone then your life.
InstantKarma
Android Expert
Now, if I was being attacked by Noomi Rapace, I'd probably be okay with that. lol
(Sorry, non sequitur.)
(Sorry, non sequitur.)
Roxors
Android Enthusiast
So for all the people that think people shouldn't carry concealed weapons, if you were robbing me and thought for a second that i would have a gun hidden away wouldn't you think twice about pulling yours on me?
I know that i don't give a crap if it is legal or not if i am getting robbed and they turn and run i will shoot them and take them down (not to kill them), then i would go and beat them within an inch of their life, take my stuff back and leave.
no cops needed. or if by chance i do get caught or something, guess what i was temporarily insane... oops better now too bad the other guy is dead.
if you are really going to carry then learn about your gun fist, read on what could go wrong, how you need to maintain it. and realize that if you pull it and freeze you will most likely get killed. there isn't any room for hesitation cause by the time that you realize you need to act, you will be gone.
it is easy to say yeah i would pull the trigger but you won't know until you do it.
also look at the size of the gun you want to get. yeah a 45 is awesome and all but thats a long barrel that you have to pull out, a lot larger hammer that you have to cock back, among other reasons. so look at probably a 9 mm or something that is in the mid range there.
now me personally I will be getting my concealed carry permit when i get back to the states and it will be a federal one so yay for me not illegal to carry it in any state.
I know that i don't give a crap if it is legal or not if i am getting robbed and they turn and run i will shoot them and take them down (not to kill them), then i would go and beat them within an inch of their life, take my stuff back and leave.
no cops needed. or if by chance i do get caught or something, guess what i was temporarily insane... oops better now too bad the other guy is dead.
if you are really going to carry then learn about your gun fist, read on what could go wrong, how you need to maintain it. and realize that if you pull it and freeze you will most likely get killed. there isn't any room for hesitation cause by the time that you realize you need to act, you will be gone.
it is easy to say yeah i would pull the trigger but you won't know until you do it.
also look at the size of the gun you want to get. yeah a 45 is awesome and all but thats a long barrel that you have to pull out, a lot larger hammer that you have to cock back, among other reasons. so look at probably a 9 mm or something that is in the mid range there.
now me personally I will be getting my concealed carry permit when i get back to the states and it will be a federal one so yay for me not illegal to carry it in any state.
hakr100
Android Expert
You plan to go into federal law enforcement? I'm pretty sure there is no "federal one" for "civilians."
InstantKarma
Android Expert
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
Crude
Android Expert
Just to clear up potential myths from forming....a .45 has virtually the same primer as a .45 or .50 for that matter. The force to set of the round is therefore almost identical. The "hammer" has the same striking distance. Also MOST concealed firearms these days are DA (dual action). Pulling the trigger lifts and releases the "hammer" in one pull. Furthermore what research and experience is showing us is that a wound doesn't usually stop a perp. It's the transfer of kinetic energy that will knock a person over, cause disorientation etc. While the 9mm has speed that translates to kinetic energy the size of the bullet relative to the speed means that your chances for over penetration is greater then with a larger caliber. Taking all of this into consideration if a bullet passes through a body there is little to no transfer of energy.
Most cases where a person uses a firearm in self defense the engagement takes place under 30 feet. The only purpose of a longer barrel is greater accuracy. My .40 has a 3.5" barrel and I can hit a silhouette with reasonable accuracy at 25 yards ( about 75 feet). For that matter almost all carry weapons have a barrel between 2" and 4", any longer and you probably wouldn't carry it.
The biggest downside to carrying a large caliber pistol is the recoil a larger round gives of making it more difficult for an inexperienced shooter to control.
In the end anything is better then nothing. But with the right training anyone can carry a .40 or .45.
Also the other reason people like to stay armed is remind it's government who's in charge. Remember a person with a firearm has options. The person without is a victim.
I don't ask that anyone trust what I way..I encourage you to do your own research.
Aiyan
Android Enthusiast
Shame you don't have too many AG3's (Norwegian version) in US, think you would have some fun shooting with that one. Damned deadly though and you can say bye to bye to the person you shoot with that weapon. >_>;
But it's oh so funny to shoot with, special when you put it on family.
djquick
Well-Known Member
PLEASE don't get me started with the government!!
See, technically we're all owned by the government, at least in the U.S. I mean, who makes the laws, the government; who raises taxes, the government; who has to have their finger on EVERYTHING in the world, the U.S. government. Plain and simple...the U.S. government only cares about 2 things, money and power. Do you really think our government gives a sh*t about us? or about the whole "going green, saving green" bullsh*t?, ABSOLUTELY NOT. Just like everything else, we are just a number (statistic) to them and if you have a social security card.....you're government property!!
Funny how the U.S. has been in an economic crisis for a while now, but I guarantee you all these "politicians" are still making their 6-figure income, buying their wives Mercedes' and going on vacations once a month.
See, technically we're all owned by the government, at least in the U.S. I mean, who makes the laws, the government; who raises taxes, the government; who has to have their finger on EVERYTHING in the world, the U.S. government. Plain and simple...the U.S. government only cares about 2 things, money and power. Do you really think our government gives a sh*t about us? or about the whole "going green, saving green" bullsh*t?, ABSOLUTELY NOT. Just like everything else, we are just a number (statistic) to them and if you have a social security card.....you're government property!!
Funny how the U.S. has been in an economic crisis for a while now, but I guarantee you all these "politicians" are still making their 6-figure income, buying their wives Mercedes' and going on vacations once a month.
ElasticNinja
Android Expert
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLPLEASE don't get me started with the government!!
See, technically we're all owned by the government, at least in the U.S. I mean, who makes the laws, the government; who raises taxes, the government; who has to have their finger on EVERYTHING in the world, the U.S. government. Plain and simple...the U.S. government only cares about 2 things, money and power. Do you really think our government gives a sh*t about us? or about the whole "going green, saving green" bullsh*t?, ABSOLUTELY NOT. Just like everything else, we are just a number (statistic) to them and if you have a social security card.....you're government property!!
We have governments for a reason you know
And dont tell me your one of those stupid Republican Climate Change skeptics
Times like these I'm glad I'm European
Crude
Android Expert
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
We have governments for a reason you know
And dont tell me your one of those stupid Republican Climate Change skeptics
Times like these I'm glad I'm European
13 posts and calling people stupid? I grew up in europe...why do you think I own guns, atvs, big diesel trucks now?
TheBeardedMann
Well-Known Member
HE'S THE ROBBER!!
Ha ha!!
ElasticNinja
Android Expert
I never said you owned them
As for calling people stupid, I didn't say or imply that, unless they genuinely were crazy paranoid people.