i downloaded them both and played with them a bit but i didnt like the fact that my samsung widgets cant be accessed and it seems like id be downloading a lot to get the widgets i want so call me a noob if u want but ill stick to touchwiz dont wanna fill up my phone with a bunch of extras that ill just want to delete and go back to samsung widgets eventually so no thanx to the launchers for me atleast for now customizing is cool but thats not y i got the phone i can customize enuff just with touchwiz im learning more and more i can do everyday other than customizing the way it looks....still hate the pink feeds and updates widget but it does what its supposed to do....didnt mean to type so much but thats my opinion