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Root Very Sorry for the Newb qtn

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Zoust

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Sorry guys - i did have abrief read but could not find what i was looking for.

I have over 4600 contacts to sync - which takes up too much space on the non-sd storage

I can export the contacts to SD but then Sense cant use them and the phone cant see them -

I am just now learning of "rooting" - LOL but I am not convinced this will help with Outlook -- IE wont the app still look in the default directory - same as the phone.

I know apps can run from the SD after rooting - but what about contacts - will I lose any functionality?

Also - I am in Australia - will Rooting and using the Roms I see in here make my phone not work here?

Thanks and sorry for the Newb Q's
 
I believe some flavors of ROMS move the data folder (including Contacts) to ext3 partition after installation. At least that's what I think. Because after installing Neophyte ROM after rooting and creating a ext3 on sdcard, it freed the majority of my internal storage. And my data folder is no longer in Internal Memory.
 
The following are the apks which DiskUsage tells me are still in Internal Storage:
Adobe Flash Player,
QuickOffice,
SvoxClassic TTS,
Facebook,
Doubletwist.

Of course there are a lot of others KBs mosty around 500 Kb or so.. And HTC Apks.
 
Well the ext partition shows as internal storage anyway. If you use android mate to explore data/app, you'll see the address bar change to system/sd/app

Browse there to see if you can find these...
 
Thats a shame, this phone might as well be a brick now - I guess i have to wait until the Desire Z is released or switch the to SGS - I love this phone, but I need to have my ccntacts and the stupid design of small flash memory is going to wreck it for me
 
danfrance said:
Well the ext partition shows as internal storage anyway. If you use android mate to explore data/app, you'll see the address bar change to system/sd/app

Browse there to see if you can find these...
Click to expand...

Yup, found them there. So they're actually not in internal memory, but in ext?
 
If it changes to system/sd/app, they're not in internal memory. However because of how a2sd+ works, your phone thinks it is internal memory.
 
Aha..great piece of work, A2SD!

O thought the froyo upgrade was supposed to permanently take care of the memory problem. But I guess Google is still making apps decide whether they want to install in int or ext, even if we do a setinstall location command. Unfotunate, that we still have to depends on A2SD.
 
Oops I meant A2SD+

And I agree. With A2SD+, I now have more than 150apps on the phone with still about 70Mb left!

One doubt..Is A2SD+ automatic. Is it possible to inadvertently turn it off. I ask because I have an app called Move2SD enabler. I wonder if it works with A2SD or A2SD+.
 
That's a downside, but the 'official' method is considerably better in design and reliability. A2SD+ is, however useful, just a hack.
 
Its an upside for me and even though I only have a class 4 card, I can't say I get better performance, but its no worse.
 
I meant it's a downside that you cannot move the dalvik-cache with froyo's implementation. Moving the dalvik-cache onto a slow sdcard will slightly decrease performance (on a fully deodexed rom and a class 2 sdcard it would be noticeable).
 
Yes, it is a downside. That and the developer having to code it. Other than that it would be much better than the current a2sd+. Id rather have full control through a UI of what is moved and what isn't. Especially widgets. I do get the odd widget problem.

But for now, its the best solution I have got :(
 
A2SD+ is very basic - any developer with a basic understanding of Unix/Linux would be able to write it. Hopefully before long all apps will be movable with the official version, and if you don't have a deodexed rom (as is the case for all the stock roms) the cache will be very small (usually 20mb or less).
 
Thnaks for all the info - however from what I read above - this mostly pertains to Apps, from everyhting I have read - contacts must reside on Internal memory to be able to be accessed by the phone - can we confirm this?
 
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