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How Will Passion Be Better Than iPhone?

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darita

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Sorry for the question, but I really want to know. I currently use an iPhone, but hate ATT service, so I'm waiting for the Passion. Not being experienced with Android phones, however, I'm wondering what the differences will be between the two?
 
darita said:
I currently use an iPhone, but hate ATT service, I'm wondering what the differences will be between the two?
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You answered your own question :).

Also, while Verizon's catch phrase is "can you hear me now", AT&T's is "can you hear me yet".


Okay seriously, I think you'll hear from other that the android OS is more customizable. Either way, you;ll find those with either will defend their phone of choice. But I'll let those more knowledgeable chime in.
 
As mentioned before better network. Basic setup. Instead of 10 possible screens of icons you get less screens but can have active widgets displaying your tweets or what not. True multitasking capability. HD video quality capture not to mention a flash to go with a better camera.
Only two things I can think of where the Iphone would be better which is browser and perhaps media player.
 
Just a few things come to mind off the top of my head, I'm sure there are many more...

1.) Open-source software will allow anyone to create applications for android without being "approved" by apple.

2.) 1 GHz. snapdragon cpu will be the closest thing to a pocket computer in history (my first pc was only 333 MHz.)

3.) Better camera.

4.) Best network.

5.) HD video.

6.) Turn-by-turn voice GPS

7.) You won't look like a metro-sexual by carrying an iPhone.
 
I'm going to have to say yes. But that's just my answer. I belive that android with sense is the best mobile platform out there and it looks like the passion will take it the next level. From some of the screenshots it shows that it has a movie app that displays movies in cover flow so if this is true apple won't have too much of a lead in the multimedia department. The one thing iPhone will always lead in though is apps so if you need ifart than get the iPhone. But if you want to get one of the best featured phones on the market with what I belive to be the best os than get the passion. Oh yeah and it also won't hert that the passion will run on the best carrier in the US (not price wise)
 
Its safe to assume we're all waiting anxiously for this monster phone. But that said, to answer your question: Its always a matter of preference and personal needs. Me, Passion hands down because AT&T doesnt even exist here.
 
@ Darita: I have a iphone too,when I tried the Droid that was it and I am here since a month ago to learn more about the phone before the Milestone, aka.the Droid launch here in canada in early 2010.
After I tried the Droid for 10 mins I was sold.The iphone are lacking some many features that the Droid processes, most of all reminded me of my laptop especially multitasking and an awesome browser.
When I tried to use my iphone I realized that my Iphone was merely a ipod with a cellphone attached and play games.It don't take long for the notoriety to wears off.
Well, that's my evaluation and btw,yesterday I was looking at the htc hd2 on youtube.It's quite interesting.
 
I for one and just going to ride it out and wait through January to see what may be announced. My 6800 still works and will get me through till the phone I want hits the market. The sky is not going to fall before that happens.
 
The biggest difference for me, is that I will actually be able to make a phone call with the Passion/Dragon. AT&T's coverage in my neck of the woods is pitiful, with never ending dropped calls, failed calls, etc.

I laugh every time I see AT&T's new commercials, touting the fact that one can be on a phone call and browse the web, check email, etc. What they don't say is that actually making that phone call is the difficult part of the equation. I love my iPhone, but it is virtually useless on AT&T's antique network.
 
The passion's screen is far superior. The passion's screen is 0.2" larger which isn't much but it will be noticeable. Much more importantly, the pixel count is almost triple that of the iphones. This creates unrivaled detail. Images will appear almost perfect. Finally, the passions screen is AMOLED. This means that the viewing angle is much better, blacks appear much darker and colours appear much brighter (colours certainly will not looked washed out unlike on the iphone). And AMOLED uses much less energy than TFTs (around 50% of the energy TFTs use) meaning that battery life is increased. The iPhone simply cannot compete with the passions beautiful screen.

Let's take a look at the processors. 1GHz vs 600MHz. I don't need to break it down anymore, it's clear who the victor is here. The passion destroys the iPhone when it comes to processors.

Lets look at the camera capabilities. the iPhone lacks a flash, making it impossible to take photos in any dark areas such as nightclubs or anywhere outside (or without a light) at night. Quite frankly, the iPhones photos are terrible. The Passion does have a flash and is 5MP and records at 720p. Thats 1280x720,or 921,600 pixels. The iPhone records at 320
 
oh,oh,ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh please don't forget the most important piece of info on the iphone that make the I-fanboys glows with pride,the Fart apps. Honestly,today I saw a new app on the iphone app store. You all be be seeing alots of I-fanboys show off their, ready for this? Santa Fart app with different colors.lol'
 
Rix said:
The passion's screen is far superior. The passion's screen is 0.2" larger which isn't much but it will be noticeable. Much more importantly, the pixel count is almost triple that of the iphones. This creates unrivaled detail. Images will appear almost perfect. Finally, the passions screen is AMOLED. This means that the viewing angle is much better, blacks appear much darker and colours appear much brighter (colours certainly will not looked washed out unlike on the iphone). And AMOLED uses much less energy than TFTs (around 50% of the energy TFTs use) meaning that battery life is increased. The iPhone simply cannot compete with the passions beautiful screen.

Let's take a look at the processors. 1GHz vs 600MHz. I don't need to break it down anymore, it's clear who the victor is here. The passion destroys the iPhone when it comes to processors.

Lets look at the camera capabilities. the iPhone lacks a flash, making it impossible to take photos in any dark areas such as nightclubs or anywhere outside (or without a light) at night. Quite frankly, the iPhones photos are terrible. The Passion does have a flash and is 5MP and records at 720p. Thats 1280x720,or 921,600 pixels. The iPhone records at 320
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@tarpoonbeach: but the fart apps would made up for the short coming. sorry, I can't help it,!lol'
Btw, I too,owned a iphone 3g,(was going to 3Gs but my 3Gs friend stopped me)oops,apple did (even though I paid for it) and i am getting rid of it come early 2010.(the milestone in canada officially) I finally realized that I am being controlled by apple,even down to the battery,I've to beg to have my battery changed?? (a whopping $110.00 and to wait for a week) because dictator Steve.J said so.Not anymore ! android has catches up and give me the freedom of choice. I don't need a glorified toy anymore, hi apple, do you know they MULTI-TASKING and a few awesome functionality to go with it? Really,Apple!, I suggest Steve check it out.
I know apple revolutionised the device and what have they done since then, beside 100,000 apps? Ok, from iphone 3g to 3gs big deal! a small changes. Sucking people into changing for the "S" and selling more of the same iphone to the same suckers and hardly worth it.
I believed given android the time, it is going to evolve into a awesome phone.The apps will definitely catches up too.(10,000)
Hey,at least I can have my cake and eat it too. It is call CUSTOMIZITION.
Oh, I can even, able, wow! to change my battery or carry 1or2 for spares just in case I got lost in the desert.LOL' ( there are no desert in canada to get lost, apple, you got my point)
Lastly, iphone users (me too) are so brain-washed into thinking that iphone is THE device and nothing could or will replaced it. They're so scare to venture out to try something new.Maybe Dictator Steve.J. will get mad and take their iphones away from them.lol'
I've yet to hear anything wrong or need improvement on the iphones even if apple kept the same platform or format for the next 10 years.The iphone users will obediently wait for the next whatever apple dishes out. I am sorry it true.
 
@nashdroid: I hope you're not an iphone fanboy.What Rix wrote was so clear and he knows what he is saying, arguments supported by facts.My hat off to him.You and I are very clear on these but don't tell an iphone fanboy,it will be a waste of time and energy.They're in state of denial.I know better now to argue with them,it's friutless,sorry for the pun.
 
i have been hearing android has 10000 apps for a long time now but thats completely wrong.

It has "about" 20000 now!!!

Saying android has 10000 apps is like saying apple has 50000 apps.

Just check androlib.com to get up to date android market information.


johflo88 said:
@tarpoonbeach: but the fart apps would made up for the short coming. sorry, I can't help it,!lol'
Btw, I too,owned a iphone 3g,(was going to 3Gs but my 3Gs friend stopped me)oops,apple did (even though I paid for it) and i am getting rid of it come early 2010.(the milestone in canada officially) I finally realized that I am being controlled by apple,even down to the battery,I've to beg to have my battery changed?? (a whopping $110.00 and to wait for a week) because dictator Steve.J said so.Not anymore ! android has catches up and give me the freedom of choice. I don't need a glorified toy anymore, hi apple, do you know they MULTI-TASKING and a few awesome functionality to go with it? Really,Apple!, I suggest Steve check it out.
I know apple revolutionised the device and what have they done since then, beside 100,000 apps? Ok, from iphone 3g to 3gs big deal! a small changes. Sucking people into changing for the "S" and selling more of the same iphone to the same suckers and hardly worth it.
I believed given android the time, it is going to evolve into a awesome phone.The apps will definitely catches up too.(10,000)
Hey,at least I can have my cake and eat it too. It is call CUSTOMIZITION.
Oh, I can even, able, wow! to change my battery or carry 1or2 for spares just in case I got lost in the desert.LOL' ( there are no desert in canada to get lost, apple, you got my point)
Lastly, iphone users (me too) are so brain-washed into thinking that iphone is THE device and nothing could or will replaced it. They're so scare to venture out to try something new.Maybe Dictator Steve.J. will get mad and take their iphones away from them.lol'
I've yet to hear anything wrong or need improvement on the iphones even if apple kept the same platform or format for the next 10 years.The iphone users will obediently wait for the next whatever apple dishes out. I am sorry it true.
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@prowler63:sorry about the #10,000 and it is very good news indeed! wow,20,000 apps! This time is a good thing to be wrong.
 
once an iphone fanboy will always be a i-fanboy or always wanted an iphone. It's okay and I am so very, over exceedingly glad for you to have a Droidfart app installed on your Droid to remind of your old iphone or wanted a iphone all your life. I don't have to spend a buck for the fart app and I rather use my ass to do it, that's what is for. I rather keep my phone clean,lol'
Btw, they've a Santa Fart app with color available on the Iphone and the i-fanboys are raving about it. I suggest you might as well look it up on the Android market for it and show it off to me. Enjoy!
 
Android is much more user-friendly and more fun to use than the iPhone OS. Plus that Snapdragon CPU means absolutely no lag on the phone.
 
choffy21 said:
Android is much more user-friendly and more fun to use than the iPhone OS. Plus that Snapdragon CPU means absolutely no lag on the phone.
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Thats wishful thinking.

The reason Iphones are so fast is they have a good processor but they dont multi task , and painting the home screen takes little to no horsepower.

With droid people seem to want to fill up there 3-7 home screens with every widget and feature while multi tasking up the ying yang,
Great as that is inevitably that leads to lag. The amount of Ram available to the system and its gpu specs gfx handling will be just as important as a "1gig" spec.

The downside of being able to do whatever you want with your phone is user experience will vary. Where as Iphone everyones experience is nearly identical by design.

Android Im sure will push new features, and functions that will push hardware every generation. Only careful, and smart users will have truly lag free experiences.
 
kof33 said:
Thats wishful thinking.

The reason Iphones are so fast is they have a good processor but they dont multi task , and painting the home screen takes little to no horsepower.

With droid people seem to want to fill up there 3-7 home screens with every widget and feature while multi tasking up the ying yang,
Great as that is inevitably that leads to lag.
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Not inevitably. Not all people want to fill up their screens with widgets.

The downside of being able to do whatever you want with your phone is user experience will vary. Where as Iphone everyones experience is nearly identical by design.
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You're getting mixed up. The issue isn't that user experience varies, the issue is that some users have a poor experience due to lag/choppiness. If I install a bunch of programs on my PC and then it runs slow it's not the PCs fault, its mine and the same applies to phones. The solution to this problem isn't to stop users from installing programs that run in the background. The solution is to educate and advise users about installing certain programs.

Android Im sure will push new features, and functions that will push hardware every generation. Only careful, and smart users will have truly lag free experiences.
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The average person who has the phone will not have that many apps. It's power users who install many apps, and the good thing is that they're often the most informed users. So if it does lag they'll know how to fix it.

bruceo said:
Iphone currently records at 640x480 30FPS and IMO considering the camera app currently destroys what is currently out there for android handsets. But hopefully the passion does do 720P and has better lowlight rendering. The "google Phone" test photos that they employees are putting up right now are terrible, so hopefully that is not the "passion" phone.....
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It turns out I was wrong. But still, 307,200 pixels per frame doesn't compare to 921,600. I think the best way to demonstrate this is to compare a 720p video to a 640x480 side by side.
 
At this point I'd be more interested in how this would compare to the Droid.
I like the Droid's screen and abilities but it seems to lack in style and is too heavy.
 
Rix said:
Not inevitably. Not all people want to fill up their screens with widgets.


You're getting mixed up. The issue isn't that user experience varies, the issue is that some users have a poor experience due to lag/choppiness. If I install a bunch of programs on my PC and then it runs slow it's not the PCs fault, its mine and the same applies to phones. The solution to this problem isn't to stop users from installing programs that run in the background. The solution is to educate and advise users about installing certain programs.


The average person who has the phone will not have that many apps. It's power users who install many apps, and the good thing is that they're often the most informed users. So if it does lag they'll know how to fix it.
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Not disagreeing with you. I much , much prefer Android way of doing things. Simply making a statement on how most users end up judging there phone and word of mouthing it.
At the end of the day casual users wont blame themselves for anything. They arent bright enough or willing to put 2 and 2 together and lag will happen regardless of a phones specs.

No reason peoples Heros should be running sluggish compared to my G1. But Ive seen it pretty often.

That being the case it becomes difficult to get a continuous word of mouth of how great an OS or phone is. Android already has to over come splintering of the name. ((many people think G1/HERO/DROID dont have anything in common)). The no.1 way to get a serious buzz going is SPEED. We'll see how that turns out.
 
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