Root Error while rooting...but still rooted?

[Justin.G11]

You are correct. But don't be mistaken that you can accept an OTA even though unrevoked forever turns S-OFF at the radio level. In theory yes you should be able to re root with out a problem if you accept an OTA and unroots you. However unrevoked forever does not work as they thought. For instance if you were on software version 3.26 rooted with S-OFF (unrevoked forever) and accepted the 3.29 OTA, the OTA would unroot your phone with S-OFF (no super user access). The problem was with 3.29, along came a ned hboot (.97) which at the time was not rootable. So people were briefly stuck unrooted with S-OFF. Now its not that big of a deal because about 2 weeks later unrevoked released version 3.21 which could obtain root, but for the period between 3.29 and UR3.21 people were stuck half root. Regardless its a bad idea to accept OTA's. And not to mention there is really no reason to accept an OTA. The only thing included in an OTA is updated software and sometimes a new radio and or hboot. Those can all be flashed and usually much sooned than sprint releases it.

You are correct, the stock OTA can still reverse root and I should have clarified that this is regardless of the S-OFF.

My understanding is, however, that with S-OFF you can still manually flash a recovery ROM .... aka even without "root" you could manually download Myn's twopointtwo and flash over the stock sense. So while the superuser root may be snatched away ... you could always just change ROMs until someone hacked it again.

So "half root" was little more than people who lost root on thier stock HTC/EVO rom ... but didn't leverage the S-OFF to go flash somethng else.

EDIT: It's like having a PC with Windows installed and the BIOS locking the boot sector. Someone may lock out the admin account and deny you access .... but if you can get to the boot sector you can still re-install windows form scratch. root gets you into windows ... S-OFF turns off the BIOS setting that locks the boot sector writing.

 

[Calamachino]

I'm in the same exact boat as you. I haven't done the final Unrevoked Forever step but I plan to do it now that I have read through your posts and see that it worked out for you. I'm anxiously following any further news of your progress. Thanks for the very helpful post. Please post if the phone once again becomes stable after changing to a different rom than the one you're currently using.

I think I may have fixed the problem. I did some google searching, and found someone in the official Cyanogenmod forums telling a lot of people to run "fix_permissions" in the thermal. This was his solution to a lot of peoples problems, including random reboots.

I tried it yesterday and so far my phone has been on and stable for 15 hours. I even put the phone through some heavy use on purpose to see if it would lock up and reboot and everything went smoothly.

I'm loving the speed of CM 6.1 so I'm going to stick with it as long as its stable, and so far so good!

Heres the wiki on fix_permissions, including directions on how to run it.

Fix permissions - CyanogenMod Wiki

 

[bytes2bits]

I think I may have fixed the problem. I did some google searching, and found someone in the official Cyanogenmod forums telling a lot of people to run "fix_permissions" in the thermal. This was his solution to a lot of peoples problems, including random reboots.

I tried it yesterday and so far my phone has been on and stable for 15 hours. I even put the phone through some heavy use on purpose to see if it would lock up and reboot and everything went smoothly.

I'm loving the speed of CM 6.1 so I'm going to stick with it as long as its stable, and so far so good!

Heres the wiki on fix_permissions, including directions on how to run it.

Fix permissions - CyanogenMod Wiki

Excellent. Thanks so much for the update. I'm nervously looking forward to my first ROM flash. Maybe this weekend. Just for my future information, if I do a nandroid backup before flashing, doing a nandroid restore of that backup will get me back to my previous ROM, right?

 

[TIP87]

I had a simular error with the unrevoked 3.22 but reistalled unrevoked forever like said above, and yes now it says s - off... but when i go to superuser permission(before and after s-off) its a black screen. if i hit menu it lets me open preferences and thats it... is this right?

I also tried to remove amazon mp3 and its still blocking uninstall...

any ideas?

 

[kumite]

I'm in the same boat as you guys i.e. "half-rooted." I'm chomping at the bits to apply the unrevoked forever patch but babysitting my daughter right now so that'll have to wait until later. I'll be watching this thread closely.

 

[bytes2bits]

I'm in the same boat as you guys i.e. "half-rooted." I'm chomping at the bits to apply the unrevoked forever patch but babysitting my daughter right now so that'll have to wait until later. I'll be watching this thread closely.

Kumite, I was a wreck before I took the plunge. I imagined ruining my beloved phone forever. Let me tell you it could not have gone smoother. Do a nandroid backup before you proceed and you can't go wrong. Also, clear data, cache, and dalvik cache. Since then I have flashed Myn's Warm and I am having a ball. You'll see how easy it all is.

 

[kumite]

Kumite, I was a wreck before I took the plunge. I imagined ruining my beloved phone forever. Let me tell you it could not have gone smoother. Do a nandroid backup before you proceed and you can't go wrong. Also, clear data, cache, and dalvik cache. Since then I have flashed Myn's Warm and I am having a ball. You'll see how easy it all is.

Good to hear! Success I got to perform the unrevoked forever patch and the status is now S-OFF.

I honestly don't think that I'll be installing any custom ROM's or Kernels. I guess I'm one of the weird ones that actually like the HTC sense UI. But a custom splash screen does seem cool. There's really only two reasons I'm rooting the phone:

1. Tethering (cmon Sprint 30 bucks a month?)
2. Because I can

Gonna start messing around with my phone for a bit. Now I know I said I won't be installing any custom ROM's or Kernels but that's from a guy that builds his own computers and mods them and runs Ubuntu...

Thanks for the help guys

 

[bytes2bits]

Good to hear! Success I got to perform the unrevoked forever patch and the status is now S-OFF.

I honestly don't think that I'll be installing any custom ROM's or Kernels. I guess I'm one of the weird ones that actually like the HTC sense UI. But a custom splash screen does seem cool. There's really only two reasons I'm rooting the phone:

1. Tethering (cmon Sprint 30 bucks a month?)
2. Because I can

Gonna start messing around with my phone for a bit. Now I know I said I won't be installing any custom ROM's or Kernels but that's from a guy that builds his own computers and mods them and runs Ubuntu...

Thanks for the help guys

Whatever you say Took me about 3 days to flash my first rom. Myn's Warm has all the HTC Sense you could want and much more!!! Nandroid backup your current state, flash Warm and give it a try. When you're done, Nandroid restore your backup and you're right back where you were... nothing lost. Think of it as a demo ride.

 

[kumite]

bytes2bits: my friend you are like a digital drug pusher I googled Myn's website and it looks freakin badass.

Just got done getting wireless tether to work which actually wasn't too bad but still frustrating enough so I'm going to take a break from the phone for a while.

 

[hortstu]

I had a simular error with the unrevoked 3.22 but reistalled unrevoked forever like said above, and yes now it says s - off... but when i go to superuser permission(before and after s-off) its a black screen. if i hit menu it lets me open preferences and thats it... is this right?

I believe that is the screen that lets you know what you have granted permanent super user permissions to. Since it is blank you probably haven't granted permanent permission to anything. The first time you try to use an app like Ti backup or wireless tether super user will pop up and make you say ok. If you leave "remember" checked that app will be added to the list/ screen you're talking about.