Help Will the unlocked HTC Desire HD work in India?

[saj_2001ind]

Are maps supposed to be downloaded from AndroidMarket ? (I haven't touched the 'Android Market' app - little scared as I haven't used it before). And how many cities are covered under that map package ? (Are tier-1,tier-2 cities covered at least ?).

What needs to be done after launching Android Market to download Indian maps ? Do I need to search for 'Indian maps download free' similar to as I do a normal search on Google ?

not through android market but from locations u need to download indian offline map, well its not city based map, its a full india map but as its size is 200 odd MBs so will cover mostly metro cities in details rest will not be that detailed...open location app then goto map and from menu goto maps download and find india

and dude nothing to be scared with android market its preety simple and new version is quite intuitite too

hope u had setup ur google account first else market wont work

 

[Btrivedi]

not through android market but from locations u need to download indian offline map, well its not city based map, its a full india map but as its size is 200 odd MBs so will cover mostly metro cities in details rest will not be that detailed...open location app then goto map and from menu goto maps download and find india

and dude nothing to be scared with android market its preety simple and new version is quite intuitite too

hope u had setup ur google account first else market wont work

I tried a lot but couldn't reach there. Will read DHD guide rather than asking silly questions to you.

PS - Somehow I reached, 'Manage licenses and content' & got to see 'Maps' where it says India - 202 MB. Upon clicking it, gives me a warning that 'Maps India will be removed from your phone. Do you want to continue' I presume then that maps of India are already installed.

 

[Teufel]

Query: How do I enable internet on my DHD by connecting it to an internet-connected-laptop ? I suppose there are 2 ways, to connect the DHD to internet through a-laptop-running-Vista-cable-connected-to-broadband-internet, at least to make this happen.

1. Through bluetooth (No USB cable) on both the devices - How actually ?
2. Through USB cable (no bluetooth) - How actually ?

When you connect your DHD to the laptop using the USB cable you get the options to select charge-only or Disk drive etc, at the bottom there is an option called Internet Pass-through, that is the one you use to connect the DHD to the laptop for internet access. However I was not able to get access to internet using that, I guess I have some firewall ON or something like that.

I am not sure how to do it through blue-tooth.

 

[Teufel]

I tried a lot but couldn't reach there. Will read DHD guide rather than asking silly questions to you.

PS - Somehow I reached, 'Manage licenses and content' & got to see 'Maps' where it says India - 202 MB. Upon clicking it, gives me a warning that 'Maps India will be removed from your phone. Do you want to continue' I presume then that maps of India are already installed.

The India maps are already installed on DHD, you do not need to install them. However I feel that the TomTom maps are not as accurate as the Google maps. On the TomTom maps my home location is shown around 2 to 3 km away from the original location, whereas Google maps shows it perfectly.

About GPS locks, it takes a lot of time inside a building or even does not get a lock. Best way to get a lock is on the terrace of a building with not too many high rises around it or on the road again with not many high rises around it. GPS needs minimum 3 satellites to get a proper lock.

 

[hiteshg]

IMO, go with bill and warranty please. Also, would certainly like to share with all of you that the manuals and the warranty card are Taiwan-based (no mention of India at all). So, the bill which your retailer has provided you is very very important in case something goes wrong with your DHD. IMO, without a second thought, please buy your DHD with bill and warranty.

My experience of buying DHD with retailer- Also, while buying your DHD, to avoid any surprises (shocks actually like for Docomo buyers), ask the retailer to open the box for you, get the battery checked, ask them to insert sim, check the 8GB card etc, test the earphones and battery charger etc. (I even tested bluetooth to listen to earphones & checked the GPS also ) I checked out all the things which I should before I left the shop.

When I questioned them that wht the warranty card is printed in Taiwanese & all T&C are based in Taiwan - He said "Sir, you have my bill & hence your DHD is covered under Indian warranty". Wasn't convinced completely though his claims were sufficient enough to allow me to buy the handset from him.

Thanks.
I think i'll hv to do the same, as my dealer said that he is giving me black color.

 

[Btrivedi]

When you connect your DHD to the laptop using the USB cable you get the options to select charge-only or Disk drive etc, at the bottom there is an option called Internet Pass-through, that is the one you use to connect the DHD to the laptop for internet access. However I was not able to get access to internet using that, I guess I have some firewall ON or something like that.

I am not sure how to do it through blue-tooth.

Yeah, thanks. Checked out the same in DHD manual book (quite comprehensive manual prepared by HTC folks). It reads "Before you can use your computer as a modem, be sure to install HTC Sync on your
computer first. (My office laptop is locked will try on home one)

 

[saj_2001ind]

Thanks.
I think i'll hv to do the same, as my dealer said that he is giving me black color.

if u do get a black color then let us know bcoz they say in india there is only brown color released

but whts wrong in brown color I quite like the brown one bcoz it looks best with battery and sim card cover being black

 

[Btrivedi]

Thanks.
I think i'll hv to do the same, as my dealer said that he is giving me black color.

Glad that you found my post helpful.

PS - May be I am asking too much, please do not mind, one better way of thanking is to hit the 'Thanks' button & then you may would like to delete your thanks post. Thank you.

 

[AndroidFreud]

Ok, I ordered the Desire HD through Flipkart (27.5K) a few days back and they have promised that it will be delivered to me today so am eagerly looking forward to it.

In anticipation, I've been looking around every possible video/forum on the DHD and.....frankly am a little overwhelmed.

Can anyone point me to a good link or provide advice (as there are a lot of new owners on this thread) as to what would be the best startup protocols for the DHD?

As in...,

1. What checklist of optimizations to run on the phone to help battery life after turning on for the first time,
2.optimal settings/apps to turn on/off,
3. Important/useful must have apps to install/buy,
4. Go in for the update or not (I've been reading mixed reactions/outcomes of the update,
5. Which is the best update build to load on at this time,
etc)
6. Best Protection casing to buy (that doesn't increase the bulk of the phone & still keeps it looking sleek) - and, Buying options and alternatives available in India/shipped from outside, if guard/case is not available locally?

I guess I'm just looking for an organized checklist of the first main list of things to do on a newly unboxed DHD).
Much thanks to any of you who can help - there seems to be a lot of info spread out all over the net- with many conflicting. Maybe we can consolidate the advice into a prime tested checklist on a new thread as well if there's enough interest/please provide a link if the info is already consolidated in a thread somewhere.

Cheers,
AndroidFreud.

 

[Teufel]

Ok, I ordered the Desire HD through Flipkart (27.5K) a few days back and they have promised that it will be delivered to me today so am eagerly looking forward to it.

In anticipation, I've been looking around every possible video/forum on the DHD and.....frankly am a little overwhelmed.

Can anyone point me to a good link or provide advice (as there are a lot of new owners on this thread) as to what would be the best startup protocols for the DHD?

As in...,

1. What checklist of optimizations to run on the phone to help battery life after turning on for the first time,
2.optimal settings/apps to turn on/off,
3. Important/useful must have apps to install/buy,
4. Go in for the update or not (I've been reading mixed reactions/outcomes of the update,
5. Which is the best update build to load on at this time,
etc)
6. Best Protection casing to buy (that doesn't increase the bulk of the phone & still keeps it looking sleek) - and, Buying options and alternatives available in India/shipped from outside, if guard/case is not available locally?

I guess I'm just looking for an organized checklist of the first main list of things to do on a newly unboxed DHD).
Much thanks to any of you who can help - there seems to be a lot of info spread out all over the net- with many conflicting. Maybe we can consolidate the advice into a prime tested checklist on a new thread as well if there's enough interest/please provide a link if the info is already consolidated in a thread somewhere.

Cheers,
AndroidFreud.

I can tell you what I did in broad categories, let me know if you need anything in detail;

First thing to do is buy a scratch guard for the DHD screen, as it is a fingerprint magnet. You can either order this along with your mobile or some retailers give it free if you buy the DHD from them or you can just go to a mobile shop and get it fitted.

1) Start Charging your battery (There is a plastic foil about the battery which you may need to remove first before charging)
2) Once you turn ON your DHD it first shows you the steps to configure, you can start by those
3) It asks step by step for importing old data (Imports calendar, Contacts and settings from a lot of phones, which you can do by selecting your old phone manufacturer and model on the screen)
4) Then it one by one starts asking for things like Email setup etc, just follow that wizard.

Once that is done then you can start exploring things like Task killers etc which will allow you to optimize your battery. A general thumb rule for optimizing battery is to keep the WiFi, Bluetooth and GPS turned off and start it only when required and then shut it down once its work is done.

The update is not yet available for Indian customers, so you do not need to worry about it just yet.

 

[fusion123]

I can tell you what I did in broad categories, let me know if you need anything in detail;

First thing to do is buy a scratch guard for the DHD screen, as it is a fingerprint magnet. You can either order this along with your mobile or some retailers give it free if you buy the DHD from them or you can just go to a mobile shop and get it fitted.

1) Start Charging your battery (There is a plastic foil about the battery which you may need to remove first before charging)
2) Once you turn ON your DHD it first shows you the steps to configure, you can start by those
3) It asks step by step for importing old data (Imports calendar, Contacts and settings from a lot of phones, which you can do by selecting your old phone manufacturer and model on the screen)
4) Then it one by one starts asking for things like Email setup etc, just follow that wizard.

Once that is done then you can start exploring things like Task killers etc which will allow you to optimize your battery. A general thumb rule for optimizing battery is to keep the WiFi, Bluetooth and GPS turned off and start it only when required and then shut it down once its work is done.

The update is not yet available for Indian customers, so you do not need to worry about it just yet.

Agree to all except for using a Task Killer. There's a lot of contradicting info on the net about this, however from whatever I've read, IMO Froyo 2.2 doesnt require a Task Killer. The OS does the job on its own.

Regarding the battery life, check out the dedicated thread on battery. I picked up the DHD about little over a week back. I'm getting about 36-40 hrs from it and I use wifi for browsing often and normal phone calls/sms etc. Not too much use of bluetooth or GPS.

All I did was use it till battery was less than 10%. With DHD on, Charge fully till light turns green, Switch off n then charge again till it turns green. Switch on and use. Have repeated it couple of times and I'm quite satisfied with the battery life till now.

Maybe the others who have picked up DHD recently can give their inputs about the battery life.

 

[saj_2001ind]

when I use to have SGS I always used a task manager to kill apps not needed in background bcoz SGS use to lag like hell bcoz of its horrible file system and horrible apps by samsung...

now after I owned a DHD, there is no need to have a task killer bcoz indeed android ands wonderful and efficient apps of HTC does that

so my suggestion never use a task killer unless u have problems of lagging...

 

[saj_2001ind]

battery life is just fine .. not as good as SGS though but SGS battery had more storage that DHD, but no complaints

I am happy to see my 1 GHZ phone finally flying as it should be unlike bloody SGS who seemed like a nokia sloww and SGS plasticy looks never gave it a 27K look but DHD stunning design make it look like 30K

 

[Teufel]

Agree to all except for using a Task Killer. There's a lot of contradicting info on the net about this, however from whatever I've read, IMO Froyo 2.2 doesnt require a Task Killer. The OS does the job on its own.

True there is a lot of contradicting info on this, what I had said and meant was he can explore the option of using a Task killer ...

I have found that there are services still running for applications which I opened a day or two ago, which makes me wonder about the claim that services are managed automatically. I also have services running (which I cannot stop for things I have never opened like Voice Search, which worries me a lot as it i taking up nearly 6.7 MB)

Frankly turning off battery hogging things like WiFi, Auto Sync and Bluetooth should be more than enough

 

[saj_2001ind]

True there is a lot of contradicting info on this, what I had said and meant was he can explore the option of using a Task killer ...

I have found that there are services still running for applications which I opened a day or two ago, which makes me wonder about the claim that services are managed automatically. I also have services running (which I cannot stop for things I have never opened like Voice Search, which worries me a lot as it i taking up nearly 6.7 MB)

Frankly turning off battery hogging things like WiFi, Auto Sync and Bluetooth should be more than enough

android takes care of the inactive processes, the bottomline is unless u experience any lag in ur phone, never use a task manager and try digging into processes and killing them

I have a lots of experience of this using SGS so trust you never need a task manager...and DHD is having the largest RAM in any phone we have so android is smart enough to manage that memory.

 

[puneet6093]

Guys, I accidentally activated my Navigation Trial period. I was just messing around and it got activated.. Its of no use to me while i am in my own city. Is their any way i can deactivate it so that i could use it later on possibly while travelling....

 

[saj_2001ind]

Guys, I accidentally activated my Navigation Trial period. I was just messing around and it got activated.. Its of no use to me while i am in my own city. Is their any way i can deactivate it so that i could use it later on possibly while travelling....

u cannot deactivate...which city u r in ?

 

[saj_2001ind]

guys..I need help from who all ordered from expansys

I had ordered some accessories from expansys but they seems to be pushing back on stock not available ... I am a bit annoyed now and want to cancel my order...can you please let me know how to cancel the order...I am able to see the order tracking page but cannot find any option to cancel the order

 

[hiteshg]

if u do get a black color then let us know bcoz they say in india there is only brown color released

but whts wrong in brown color I quite like the brown one bcoz it looks best with battery and sim card cover being black

not much of a problem, but if given choice i would opt for black.

 

[Teufel]

DHD is having the largest RAM in any phone we have so android is smart enough to manage that memory.

Hmmm ... Like I said before I can still see services running for Apps which I opened 2 days ago and there are services running for applications like Voice search which I have never opened and I cannot stop them, so I would take the statement that Android is smart enough to manage that memory with a pinch of salt.

Although I agree with you on not using Task killers unless lag is observed regularly.

 

[saj_2001ind]

Hmmm ... Like I said before I can still see services running for Apps which I opened 2 days ago and there are services running for applications like Voice search which I have never opened and I cannot stop them, so I would take the statement that Android is smart enough to manage that memory with a pinch of salt.

Although I agree with you on not using Task killers unless lag is observed regularly.

okay to cut long story short, I am not going to explain each background app but there is a threshold RAM level which is allocated by android system, reaching which the system will start to kill the unwanted apps which are running background.

bcoz android has to do a lot of multitasking hence keeps mostly used apps in inactive state in memory and set their priority ...

do one thing post a thread in xda developer forums, there are some really genius geeky guys who will give u a detailed explaination ... also suggest you to google how android does memory management and multitasking if you wanna go deep into understand it technically

 

[smnrock]

@hiteshg, color of handset is mentioned in box itself

 

[saj_2001ind]

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one more chinese andriod virus...kinda scary

 

[Teufel]

okay to cut long story short, I am not going to explain each background app but there is a threshold RAM level which is allocated by android system, reaching which the system will start to kill the unwanted apps which are running background.

bcoz android has to do a lot of multitasking hence keeps mostly used apps in inactive state in memory and set their priority ...

do one thing post a thread in xda developer forums, there are some really genius geeky guys who will give u a detailed explaination ... also suggest you to google how android does memory management and multitasking if you wanna go deep into understand it technically

You don't really need to be a genius geeky guy in a forum to understand how Android works and Googling everything is not always the solution. Some OOP concepts and a little bit of Java knowledge will generally help you in that.

Lets see if I can explain this, Android uses the Dalvik VM to do memory management.If memory allocations are not done properly by an app (not every app including some Google apps do not properly use the memory allocator), the garbage collector has performance issues.

There are 5 types of processes in Android; Running,Seen,Started,Background,Empty. Active are the ones which are currently being used by the user.Visible are the ones which are partially obscured like app running but not seen on screen,Started are the ones which need to run without being visible,Background are the ones with nothing visible and no started services these are the ones destroyed regularly by Android in a Last visible first killed mode,Empty are the ones retained in memory to relaunch apps faster, again regularly destroyed.

Android starts closing apps when it needs more memory. But long before this threshold is reached, users start seeing lags,perf problems due to the memory allocations done for short lived pbjects. The Garbage collector of Android cannot optimize the collection of these objects which are sometimes generated in very critical areas of the code affecting performance.

To explain in more simpler terms, lets say you are running a graphics intensive app like a 3D game and while playing garbage collection occurs due to some other app running in the background has wrongly allocated the memory, you will notice a frame drop from say 25 to 10 which definitely is noticeable to the user, who realizes that he is seeing lag or performance issue.

{edited since it somehow got deleted before posting} So generally its not android that causes the problem but its the Apps that are running and not properly coded. Task killers should only be used to kill unresponsive apps which cannot be killed from running services. But Android is not perfect either, so memory management even though well done, still needs to be improved on a large scale, even Android developers themselves agree on it. {edited}

Hopefully this helps in clearing up the concept. For others I am sorry for the long and irrelevant post, but I just wanted to get my point across.

 

[hiteshg]

@hiteshg, color of handset is mentioned in box itself

Thanks for uploading the image, did u bought it from delhi, coz importer address is in delhi. N if u bought it form delhi, can u tell me from where did u bought it?
According to your box, ur device is leagelly imported so it should have INDIAN warranty card, but according to btrivedi, its tiwan's warranty card included in it. So does ur box have indian or tiwan warranty cards included?