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Root Quadrant score & A2SD+

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diS

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Hi guys

I've got 2 questions!
I've got my HTC Desire rooted with LeeDroid 2.3c custom ROM.
I've got SetCPU running at max 998Mhz and using Screen OFF settings.
I today tried to get a quadrant score and I came out at 1169 just below
the HTC Evo 2.2+

1. Is this good? If not, how can I improve it?

2. With the ROM came A2SD+ when you got an EXT partition.
I've managed to get that Partition with Gparted.
Does it require me to do anything else to be able to use it?
Or am I good to go? Didn't do anything more than to make that partition
and flash LeeDroid on my phone...

Thanks in advance
diS
 
diS said:
Hi guys

I've got 2 questions!
I've got my HTC Desire rooted with LeeDroid 2.3c custom ROM.
I've got SetCPU running at max 998Mhz and using Screen OFF settings.
I today tried to get a quadrant score and I came out at 1169 just below
the HTC Evo 2.2+

1. Is this good? If not, how can I improve it?

2. With the ROM came A2SD+ when you got an EXT partition.
I've managed to get that Partition with Gparted.
Does it require me to do anything else to be able to use it?
Or am I good to go? Didn't do anything more than to make that partition
and flash LeeDroid on my phone...

Thanks in advance
diS
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1. Overclock the CPU with set CPU (free to xda members) and take auto sync off
2. Nothing it is done for you just enjoy :)
 
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HTC desired said:
1. Overclock the CPU with set CPU (free to xda members) and take auto sync off
2. Nothing it is done for you just enjoy :)
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Cheers mate ^^
Don't think you read 1. carefully ^^
I've got SetCPU. Is overclocking really necessary to get a higher score?
Because when I check back to the ROM it gives a score of about 1360.
Auto Sync off, do you need S-OFF for that? Because I haven't got that,
still use S-ON. :)
 
diS said:
By how much?

And there is no other way to get a higher score? Because I don't feel like overclocking. Not at this point in time.
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Overclocking is not risky like on a PC.

Risk from overclocking is from more power (higher temperature) + higher clock speed. Causing physical damage. This is why PC overclockers use cooling systems

On custom kernels, they are undervolted so they overclock at the same power draw (no extra heat), so no damage.

My Quadrant is about 2200. But I more than just overclock to get that.

1152mhz is my maximum stable clock speed.
 
danfrance said:
Overclocking is not risky like on a PC.

Risk from overclocking is from more power (higher temperature) + higher clock speed. Causing physical damage. This is why PC overclockers use cooling systems

On custom kernels, they are undervolted so they overclock at the same power draw (no extra heat), so no damage.

My Quadrant is about 2200. But I more than just overclock to get that.

1152mhz is my maximum stable clock speed.
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And how did you manage to get that high quadrant next to overclocking?
And doesn't overclocking ask more battery usage?
 
diS said:
And how did you manage to get that high quadrant next to overclocking?
And doesn't overclocking ask more battery usage?
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Overclocking uses more voltage than not overclocking but with custom kernels you will be overclocking and still using less battery than stock
 
Also worth mentioning that with profiles like screen off your not always overclocking as 1113 Mhz but sometimes only 245 Mhz
 
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MikeC1408 said:
Also worth mentioning that with profiles like screen off your not always overclocking as 1113 Mhz but sometimes only 245 Mhz
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Adding to that:

If you use the standard "On demand" governor (or anything OTHER than performance), even with screen on, you will only be overclocking if Android NEEDS it. It doesn't run at 1113 or 1152 constantly.
 
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I had a 4 with sync off (sync off gives fake - higher scores. I used to get 2500+) but sync off is not recommended as data can corrupt if its unmounted incorrectly (power loss, reboot, crash etc) so not recommended.

I wouldnt do data2sd with anything less than a 6. I use a 10.

Its still experimental, and not really for novices at this stage (not that I'm saying you are a novice, I have no idea ;)
 
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Thanks guys ^^

Perhaps one more thing.
Before I rooted I could force apps to my SD card.
Now I've got apps that I can't move to SD that I could move before I rooted...
Is it possible that I can move them in any way?
 
diS said:
Thanks guys ^^

Perhaps one more thing.
Before I rooted I could force apps to my SD card.
Now I've got apps that I can't move to SD that I could move before I rooted...
Is it possible that I can move them in any way?
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Are you not using apps2sd+ then?

You've got the partition and everything so why move anything to sd?

Read my faq to understand what you have
 
danfrance said:
Are you not using apps2sd+ then?

You've got the partition and everything so why move anything to sd?

Read my faq to understand what you have
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Well I've got an EXT partition on my SD and I use the A2SD version of LeeDroid. That's all I did...
However I can't move some games/apps to SD.
For Example Battle Bears uses 33MB of internal memory and if I go to my applications the button to move it to SD is grey.
Same for Doodle Bowling, Gun Bros Beta, iBasket, aTilt 3D Labyrinth and so on...

Quick System Info Shows me that A2SD storage has 235MB free...
 
danfrance said:
Seriously, it explains this
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Yes I know, I've read it about 12 times allready.
I did everything it said I've downloaded Quick System Info and
I've got 235MB free for A2SD+ So it's defenitly working...

But I don't get why some of my apps can't be moved that could before rooting...
 
Jeez man. It's irrelevant. Like it says in the faq, you're not supposed to move them, so it doesn't matter
 
I have a quadrant score of ~ 2200 (average after some samples).

Not overclocked !!!

What I did (as a summary):

- compiled a custom kernel based on the bravo (original HTC desire source) with 3 patches as explained here: arighi's blog: HOWTO: install a custom kernel on HTC Desire
- ext2 in the kernel
- I left out some stuff (IPv6, router, PPP, ...) but of course this does not affect performance

Then I ported the "lagfix" hack as explained in a thread for the Galaxy Apollo phone:
I5800 Lagfix V2 ! - xda-developers
(concept is completely similar on HTC Desire)

In order to mount the ext2 file system at boot time, I also applied init.d as described in:
[HOWTO] Enable init.d on stock *rooted* Desire roms - xda-developers

Now my init scripe (/etc/init.d/98ext2mounter) looks like this:

busybox mknod /dev/loop0 b 7 0
busybox losetup /dev/loop0 /data/linux.ex2
logwrapper /data/local/e2fsck -p -f /dev/loop0
logwrapper mkdir /data/ext2data
mount -t ext2 -o noatime,nodiratime,errors=continue /dev/loop0 /data/ext2data
logwrapper /system/xbin/busybox df

Note that you will also need the e2fstools for ARM. Hmm ... I downloaded them from somewhere but I can't seem to find the link right now. Obviously you must have e2fsck in /data/local (see script).

Then if I use setCPU at max standard frequency (998 Mhz), I get 2300 as quadrant score (it kind of varies between 2100 ~ 2450).

Note that this is on standard HTC Desire OAT Froyo, rooted !

Of course the CPU won't run any real faster in MHz terms. But the BFS scheduler in the kernel is better and there is IO improvement overall. This gives the better quadrant score.

device.png
 
So you're looping back to ext similar to data2sd. But you have no sync? So Isn't the high I/O only due to Cache write back, therefore fake? In which case, what is the point? Also, if you have no sync or journal, isn't your data at risk?
 
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