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Is this far fetched??

jdailey1981

jdailey1981

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I have been hearing that when iPhone comes, VZW is going to downplay Android and not sell hot Android phones like they have been. I wonder if they will only sell lower end Android phones and let T-Mobile & Sprint carry the higher end Androids, while VZW focuses on the iPhone & Blackberry markets.....if this is true, they will lose a lot of business, as most people who have Verizon Android's love them! Open source, can be rooted, rom, themed, overclocked....the great things of Android, while with iPhone, all you can do is jailbreak and theme...your thoughts?
 
VZW does not have to be choosey. They haven't signed a contract with Apple saying they will back off from supporting the Android platform. (At least as far as we know, but it would have been a horrible concession to make) Let's face it, Apple has wanted a VZ iPhone just as much as VZ has, I'm sure whatever contract has been crafted is mutually beneficial for both parties. As I said, there's no point in VZ limiting themselves to one or two models or brands of phones. They have the best of both worlds now, and arguably the best smartphone lineup of any carrier in the US.
 
Except that they dropped the ball on the moto Atrix. I believe that phone will be the watershed moment for the future of smart phones.
 
I agree. The Atrix is almost limitless in its versatility (a laptop dock? COOL!) and Verizon should have snapped that one up. Hopefully Big Red won't drop the ball on the NEXT watershed device. With that kind of a workhorse, I really wouldn't care if it was encrypted... well, yes I would :p
 
I am concerned about Verizon becoming the next AT&T with their smartphone lineup (I would cry). Hopefully they realize just how immensely popular their Android phones are, and that Android saved them from losing out on so many smartphone users (honestly, Blackberry and WinMo 6.5? What dinosaur OSes).

The Atrix sounds ridiculous to me. I don't want to carry a laptop that has the power of a phone, I want my laptop to have goddamn laptop parts in it! The only beneficial part of the Atrix, in my head, is that I bet the dock mode has a good chance of giving users some nice exploits on the phone itself.

What I wish Verizon picked up, though, is the Samsung Infuse. What a beautiful screen! :(
 
jdailey1981 said:
I have been hearing that when iPhone comes, VZW is going to downplay Android and not sell hot Android phones like they have been. I wonder if they will only sell lower end Android phones and let T-Mobile & Sprint carry the higher end Androids, while VZW focuses on the iPhone & Blackberry markets.....if this is true, they will lose a lot of business, as most people who have Verizon Android's love them! Open source, can be rooted, rom, themed, overclocked....the great things of Android, while with iPhone, all you can do is jailbreak and theme...your thoughts?
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Sounds like typical "chicken little" stuff found on forum sites. As always consider the source. Have any links to share?
 
This is what I know. Verizon has signed a non-exclusive contract with Apple. As far as Verizon focusing on the Iphone over Android, I doubt it. Android is Verizon. The 2 terms are practically synonymous at this point. Higher end Android enabled devices will almost always be with Verizon for the simple fact that they have the most reliable network. Add actual 4G service (Not ATT fake 4G), and you get the best phones (Minus the Atrix. Not exactly sure why Motorola gave that to ATT, but whatever. I'll be able to use real 4G with the Bionic.)
 
jacobydarkon said:
Add actual 4G service (Not ATT fake 4G)
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If you want to be pedantic and talk about how "4G" doesn't really meet the 1Gb/s down speed required to be deemed 4G, you could at least take the time to realize that Verizon's new LTE network also doesn't even come close to 4G. It's 3.5G, just like Sprint's offering, just like T-Mo's offering, just like AT&T's offering, etc etc etc

There's so much in your post I have to disagree with. Sprint and T-Mo combined make up about half of Android users, according to Engadget. Verizon makes up the other approximate half and AT&T has a near-negligible share. Considering Android started on T-Mo and AT&T and T-Mo are getting the Google dev phones, I think it's safe to say that Android is not synonymous with Verizon; it's just that Motorola Android phones are pretty much synonymous because Verizon, much like Motorola, likes to give its users phones that have the guise of being free but still tend to be saddled down with crap.
 
shadowdude777 said:
If you want to be pedantic and talk about how "4G" doesn't really meet the 1Gb/s down speed required to be deemed 4G, you could at least take the time to realize that Verizon's new LTE network also doesn't even come close to 4G. It's 3.5G, just like Sprint's offering, just like T-Mo's offering, just like AT&T's offering, etc etc etc

There's so much in your post I have to disagree with. Sprint and T-Mo combined make up about half of Android users, according to Engadget. Verizon makes up the other approximate half and AT&T has a near-negligible share. Considering Android started on T-Mo and AT&T and T-Mo are getting the Google dev phones, I think it's safe to say that Android is not synonymous with Verizon; it's just that Motorola Android phones are pretty much synonymous because Verizon, much like Motorola, likes to give its users phones that have the guise of being free but still tend to be saddled down with crap.
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I was thinking the same thing (:
 
I misunderstood the definition of 4G it seems. I will correct myself.

ATT has put no new technology into their network like Verizon as far as I know. Verizon has and it shows. All I was trying to say is at least Verizon has upgraded their network to provide faster speeds where as ATT has just put a label on the same patchy service. I had ATT so I do know first hand how spotty it is.

As far as my opinion of Verizon and Android, I'm sticking to it. All I ever see is droid commercials. All I ever really hear about is Verizon developing another Android device. I'm sorry you disagree. I can't use Sprint or T-Mo because their service is also spotty in my area.

Lastly, I will say that more higher end Android enabled smartphones may end up on Verizon then ATT. My apologies for being a bit closed minded.
 
Either way, I will be happy with Droid until my 2012 update. Curious what Android phones/OS will be out in 2011?
 
jacobydarkon said:
I misunderstood the definition of 4G it seems. I will correct myself.

ATT has put no new technology into their network like Verizon as far as I know. Verizon has and it shows. All I was trying to say is at least Verizon has upgraded their network to provide faster speeds where as ATT has just put a label on the same patchy service. I had ATT so I do know first hand how spotty it is.

As far as my opinion of Verizon and Android, I'm sticking to it. All I ever see is droid commercials. All I ever really hear about is Verizon developing another Android device. I'm sorry you disagree. I can't use Sprint or T-Mo because their service is also spotty in my area.

Lastly, I will say that more higher end Android enabled smartphones may end up on Verizon then ATT. My apologies for being a bit closed minded.
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AT&T doesn't have as great coverage as Verizon, but another thing that makes them seem much worse is the inherent issue of the GSM protocol. While CDMA (Sprint and Verizon) do a soft handoff, where you're connected to another tower when you go out of range of your current one and then are cut off from that first tower, GSM (AT&T and T-Mo) do a hard handoff, where they cut you off first and then connect you to another tower. This results in dropped calls while moving and lost data connections.

And I do have to agree that Verizon markets the best. There are many Droid commercials, indeed.

I guess I should be more open to the fact that most people don't have reception from all 4 major carriers in their area. Sorry about that. I wasn't knocking your choice of Verizon (obviously, I'm with them too), I'm just saying, Android is not closely tied to Verizon at all. Google has had pretty much no interaction with Verizon or Sprint, they work solely with the two GSM providers because they want to provide their phones worldwide (very few countries internationally have the CDMA protocol).
 
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