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Calling it now - Nexus one is BS

How is this functionally different than any unlocked phone that can run apps like VoIP? I'm a cell phone newbie (until now I considered cell phones overly expensive to use toys, now they are just expensive to use) but one criteria I had before jumping into this cell phone nonsense was that I could still run a VoIP app. Now I can do both on one phone, I have a minimal voice plan and a data plan that is enough to use VoIP. I pay for those plans so I don't see the problem. My provider isn't going to kick me just because I never use their expensive long distance and prefer to use my own $0.01/min VoIP on the data plan I also pay them for.
 
A subsidized unlocked phone would be a pretty big deal. More people would get one and the carriers would lose their power. But only google or Microsoft would be capable of such a phone.
 
Although wishful thinking (I'm on Verizon), I believe the Nexus One is the next Google Developer phone. It makes the most sense. If this is the Google Phone though, it will be interesting to see what will happen.
 
And a free unlocked phone would be huge but that too would be speculation so I ignore until I know. Android itself was a big deal, enough to make me get back into a cell. But for years earlier I hardly paid attention to anything in the industry and saved myself thousands of dollars. The new players trying to come online don't yet spark my interest since they can undercut by $.05 and make a splash but not change anything significantly for me. I'll wait and see, otherwise it is just noise in a very noisy world.
But google is getting lots of free PR just like Ashley Madison did by pretending to buy wrap around ads on buses. In the end they were denied so instead of spending $200k on ads they got the same effect for almost free.
 
ari-free said:
but this isn't an iPhone killer. It's a thin phone with curves but to be an iPhone killer you need to either:
1) make a masterful work of art. But beating Jonathan Ive at his own game is not an easy thing to do and certainly not achieved by this Nexus.
2) put in all kinds of 'stuff.' This is more achievable by any hardware company. Make a better keyboard than the Droid with a trackball. A front facing camera for video calling. A 4.3" screen. Make it really 'hot' for gamers.
Apple would have to throw out their entire design in order to compete with those external specs. Everything on iPhone looks so polished because all the apps are all custom-tailored for that one form-factor. Push them out of that comfortable position and they won't be able to adapt.
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I don't necessarily believe this will be an iPhone killer either, which is why I put the phrase in quotes. I have no doubt, however, that we will see an android-based iPhone killer in the not-too-distant future.
 
Off topic, but I just can't help but think of an old White Zombie song every time I see the name "nexus one" ...More Human than Human
 
I can't wait to see what Google (and others) do down the road with that "white space" from the TV frequency auction. I am wondering why T-mobile when Google entered a "partnership" with Verizon in Oct.
 
vikingisson said:
How is this functionally different than any unlocked phone that can run apps like VoIP? I'm a cell phone newbie (until now I considered cell phones overly expensive to use toys, now they are just expensive to use) but one criteria I had before jumping into this cell phone nonsense was that I could still run a VoIP app. Now I can do both on one phone, I have a minimal voice plan and a data plan that is enough to use VoIP. I pay for those plans so I don't see the problem. My provider isn't going to kick me just because I never use their expensive long distance and prefer to use my own $0.01/min VoIP on the data plan I also pay them for.
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But google is getting lots of free PR just like Ashley Madison did by pretending to buy wrap around ads on buses. In the end they were denied so instead of spending $200k on ads they got the same effect for almost free.
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Makes me think of the online Google ads i see on Hulu. Where's it shows bunch of different search topics and the last one being: "How to go viral?" (not sure if i got the correct wording) and this has to be one of the most viral campaigns I've seen. (sorry if that seems noobish) Google sure got their "moneys" worth with this "ad" campaign.
 
Hello guys,

I dont quite get the point that VOIP is an issue for this phone as HUNDREDS of phones can already use skype to do VOIP with very low cost data bundles, so?

My gripe about this phone is there is no front facing camera to do VIDEO calls, as one can do on iPhones and Symbian phones... and soon on android and WM phones with front facing cameras. (EDIT: iPhone with one way video calls only, hee hee...)

Why did Google/HTC miss this? Intentionally? To have something for the N2 rumour mill in 9 months time?

Mark.
 
nexus 1, doesnt seem to be the voip google anti-jesus phone that many thought it would be. to think that the whole theory is nonsense IMO is rather naive though. to think that google couldn't pull this off is rather naive too.

all that would have to happen is tmobile add a all data plan to their mobile line up (did i see a link that they already have one?) and release a google real voip phone on their network. then they could kick back and watch all the customers come flooding in.

this would force the big guys' hands, they would have no choice but to try and compete.
 
Video calling on phones has been around for years.. no one is using it. I tried it out for a few seconds on my Nokia last year when I bought it, haven't used the function since. Haven't seen or heard of anyone using it either.
 
kafkef said:
Video calling on phones has been around for years.. no one is using it. I tried it out for a few seconds on my Nokia last year when I bought it, haven't used the function since. Haven't seen or heard of anyone using it either.
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Nobody was using it in the past because it cost a fortune!

FREE video calls are brand new and with Fring you cal video call for free (using dirt cheap data packages or wifi)

Not having a front facing camera is a major omission, maybe missed because many people still think of video calls costing loads.

Mark
 
fredphoesh said:
Nobody was using it in the past because it cost a fortune!

FREE video calls are brand new and with Fring you cal video call for free (using dirt cheap data packages or wifi)

Not having a front facing camera is a major omission, maybe missed because many people still think of video calls costing loads.

Mark
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You have a point, but I don't see video calls taking off again.. At least not in Sweden. It was popular for a short period of time when 3G was new, then it died off.

I'd like to be wrong though.
 
I'm sure some people might want this "feature", but I personally have absolutely zero interest in watching a choppy video of someone talk to me.
I'd prefer they use that extra bandwidth to improve voice quality first.

I can just see it now, people driving down the road holding their phone in front of their faces. You know it will happen.
 
Don't think google would release a VOIP phone until LTE and WiMAX (4g) roll out nationwide to the majority of the market.. Since LTE and WiMAX are sibling technologies it would be easier to make a cross platform data only phone...
 
ari-free said:
but this isn't an iPhone killer. It's a thin phone with curves but to be an iPhone killer you need to either:
1) make a masterful work of art. But beating Jonathan Ive at his own game is not an easy thing to do and certainly not achieved by this Nexus.
2) put in all kinds of 'stuff.' This is more achievable by any hardware company. Make a better keyboard than the Droid with a trackball. A front facing camera for video calling. A 4.3" screen. Make it really 'hot' for gamers.
Apple would have to throw out their entire design in order to compete with those external specs. Everything on iPhone looks so polished because all the apps are all custom-tailored for that one form-factor. Push them out of that comfortable position and they won't be able to adapt.
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The Iphone killer is and always has been...Apple. Yes that right! Apple will do what no one else can.

Its funny really. We have all been here before, at least those of us who are old enough to remeber the early 80s. There were two computer platforms. Apple and IBM. What made IBM (intel based) platforms dominate was not because it was the better system, it wasn't. it was because it was an open development platform. Everyone who wanted to could design hardware and software for PCs. Clones came around, there was still just Apple. They came out with Mac. great innovation and it drove the PC developers into new concepts. Mac was still the better machine but PCs continued to gain market share. It was too difficult to develop for Apple but it was free for IBM. In the end? Apple almost died until they created a new market (MP3 players) and intel won the PC market. Same thing is happening with Android. Its open source and any manufacturer can develop phones to use it. For that matter, non-phone devices are developing with Android!!

Apple can't compete with that. They decided to use the same business model (that failed in the computer world) for the iphone. They have their niche but will never break out like android will.
 
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