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Root XTRsense 5.0.1 newbie with some questions

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mars1560

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Hello all, I am brand new to this forum, and just rooted my first ROM- XTRSense 5.0.1 on my Droid Eris
I am going to start by apologizing for the lack of knowledge I possess around this, and the amount of questions I will be asking. I am pretty good with this stuff once I have an idea of what I am doing. So, thank you for whatever direction you can point me in, or any help you can offer.
Since I am new to this,
1- what do you do after you get your phone up and running?
2- Are there really good apps for Rooted phones? Can you run swype at all?
3- Can I reinstall my apps off of the sdcard that are backed up? Or should I just download them again from the app market?
4- I was reading [ROM][GPL][3/15/2011] xtrSENSE5.0.1 [cache2cache,apps2sd,oc,jit]-HTC Sense - xda-developers and the terms just don't make sense to me. I was hoping to find a newbie friendly guide for xtrsense.
5- Also, are there any tweaks I should make to any of the new settings for the ROM? I have read a little bit about Gscript. Are there settings to make the phone run better? If so, how do I do that?
6- Are there ways to delete "stock" things like stocks, peep, etc.?
7- I do not really understand cache2cache and how to use them, or if it will mess my phone up. Same with apps2sd.
If anyone can just tell me how to best utilize this rom, that would be awesome. Also, ways to not screw my phone up.
Thank you so much for any help offered!!
Scott
 
mars1560 said:
Hello all, I am brand new to this forum, and just rooted my first ROM- XTRSense 5.0.1 on my Droid Eris
I am going to start by apologizing for the lack of knowledge I possess around this, and the amount of questions I will be asking. I am pretty good with this stuff once I have an idea of what I am doing. So, thank you for whatever direction you can point me in, or any help you can offer.
Since I am new to this,
1- what do you do after you get your phone up and running?
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At the risk of sounding snarky, I use it.

Honestly, there is nothing "special" about root, with the exception that it makes the phone better.

2- Are there really good apps for Rooted phones? Can you run swype at all?
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I am the last one to ask about Swype, because I hate it. My favorite apps for root are:

- Cachecleaner NG - can run on a schedule to clean app cache. Great for xtrSENSE
- Titanium Backup - to back up my installed apps and then restore them later if I switch to a different ROM, etc.
- Root Explorer (just for looking around more than anything else)
- Quickboot is useful on xtrSENSE - it lets you easily restart the phone, into HBOOT or Recovery if you want to - no more shutting down and then holding down some key to start Recovery.

3- Can I reinstall my apps off of the sdcard that are backed up? Or should I just download them again from the app market?
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If you created a Nandroid backup of what you had before, you could Nandroid backup what you have now, restore your rooted stock ROM, install Titanium Backup (or MyBackup Pro), batch backup your user apps, Nandroid Restore xtrSENSE, install Titanium (or MyBackup Pro), and then restore your apps. Otherwise, you could just reinstall from the market if that's too much work/hassle.

4- I was reading [ROM][GPL][3/15/2011] xtrSENSE5.0.1 [cache2cache,apps2sd,oc,jit]-HTC Sense - xda-developers and the terms just don't make sense to me. I was hoping to find a newbie friendly guide for xtrsense.
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List the terms you do not understand and somebody can explain them.

LWP = live wallpapers
OC = overclock
deodex = the ROM has separated the pre-compiled pieces of the ROM into discrete parts, which is useful for people who want to change the appearance of the phone - fonts, background colors, etc.
GPL = the open source license agreement for the ROM, which means that the source code must be distributed, and anybody who uses it must also license under GPL and distribute any changes made to source.
cache2cache - I thought that this was explained well, but you can think of the internal storage of the phone as being split into several different drive letters of fixed sizes on your computer. The storage location called /data, where all of the apps that you install and use (and their data) is fairly small. There is another location called /cache, which usually has plenty of available space. What cache2cache does is move a specific storage location in /data to /cache, leaving a lot more space for your user apps and data.
apps2sd = move your apps, which are usually in /data on internal storage (as I just described), to a specific location on your SD card instead. Your phone also "tricks" Android into thinking that the apps are still on /data.
JIT = just-in-time compiling. Fairly technical, but it's a way to make apps run faster by converting some of the interpreted Java code into machine code, which runs much faster. on xtrSENSE, do not do this.

5- Also, are there any tweaks I should make to any of the new settings for the ROM? I have read a little bit about Gscript. Are there settings to make the phone run better? If so, how do I do that?
6- Are there ways to delete "stock" things like stocks, peep, etc.?
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To 6, that is all in gscript. The directions are in that link you listed above, to xtrSENSE:

. After opening GScript press the menu button and select "Add script"
2. A new window will open.
3. Press the Load file button
4. Select a script from the list (each is obviously named as to its function)
5. Ensure Needs SU? is checked
6. Now select "Save" and you have added your script
7. To run just select it from the list in the main GScript screen
8. You may be prompted to reboot the phone for the change to take effect.
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When you get to the list of scripts to add, there is one to remove Peep, there is one to remove Teeter, there is one to remove Footprints. Load them all, tap them when you get back to the Gscript main screen, and the scripts will remove those apps that you want to remove.

As for other "tweaks" that you can set from Gscript, honestly, I think that xtrSENSE is set to run fairly well. You may want to consider set_memory_balanced, which alters Android's internal memory management to leave more RAM free and suspend background apps a little more quickly than stock.

7- I do not really understand cache2cache and how to use them, or if it will mess my phone up. Same with apps2sd.
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You already have cache2cache - that is set up by default with xtrSENSE. That should leave you with plenty of space for running third party apps without thinking about apps2sd. I strongly recommend that anybody who is at all nervous about "messing with" computers from going through the steps to set up apps2sd, unless it is absolutely necessary because you need to install 200 apps or something.
 
Yeah man, that was EXACTLY what I was looking for!!! Thank you so very much for taking your time to explain all this, within seconds I was able to get those programs off of there. I will let you know if I have any other questions, but that was awesome!
 
H2342 said:
If I have an older version of xtrasense how do I upgrade to the newer version?
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Though I would Nandroid Backup first, one of the great things about xtrSENSE is that you can install over without wiping data first - it should be all set. You should probably wipe Dalvik cache, but:

- Download and move to SD xtrSENSE5.0.1.zip
- Restart in Recovery
- Nandroid backup (just in case)
- Wipe Dalvik cache
- Flash xtrSENSE5.0.1
- Restart

If you have customized by running any of the gscripts, you would need to run those again. If you don't know what I am talking about, you're all set. ;)

If, for some reason, something isn't working right, restart in Recovery and run a Nandroid Restore of what you had before and you'll be right back to where you were when you ran the Nandroid Backup.
 
Just so you know, I been running Swype on this rom just fine.

Also another root only app I use is Adfree Andriod. It will remove ads from most apps that have them.

I ve used a few other roms. But I like this one the most. Everything I need te phone to do, just works.
 
not much to add,except for a link :)

Swype | Text Input for Screens

if you want to run swype,just go to the above sight and register,then follow the directions. you actually dont even need to be rooted. if you go to the site and it tells you youre not on an android phone :eek: use a different browser. i got that error message once while using skyfire. used the stock browser and it worked fine.

i dont use it all the time,but i like swype. i think its kinda neat :cool:
 
I have changed my Eris ways from GSB to xtrSENSE and I am a fan of sense for sure! It's great, I feel it's more stable than GSB (plus I'm sick of flashing an update once or twice a week!)

Only thing that bothers me is no auto delete for text. Does anyone have a remedy?! (besides just deleting on my own, sorry, I'm just lazy haha)
 
Whats up guys. I've been running GSB for awhile and today I decided to switch over to xtrSENSE. But after I wiped data and dalvik and during the installation of xtrSENSE it failed and I got this message:
"xtr sense installation aborted. Flash lite plug in verification failed"

Has anyone experienced this or know how to resolve it?
Thanks


EDIT: I flashed 5.0 and it worked fine. I'm running ti now. The problem was with 5.01
 
Alright last question...
I got pretty used to Swype on GSB. When I switched over to xtrSENSE I went to the site to download Swype but the .apk fails to download because there is not enough space. I can install apps from the market. I have 96MB free internally and 670MB free on my SD card.
 
bustedukulele said:
Alright last question...
I got pretty used to Swype on GSB. When I switched over to xtrSENSE I went to the site to download Swype but the .apk fails to download because there is not enough space. I can install apps from the market. I have 96MB free internally and 670MB free on my SD card.
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FWIW, I was able to load and run Swyipe with no problem. Be sure to request a new beta invite in order to get a current installer.
 
Thanks Doogald! You're awesome.

One quick question - I partitioned my SD Card and all that stuff and have GScripted Apps2SD. Whenever I download an app, will it just automatically go to SD?
 
DavidG6 said:
Thanks Doogald! You're awesome.

One quick question - I partitioned my SD Card and all that stuff and have GScripted Apps2SD. Whenever I download an app, will it just automatically go to SD?
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Yes, all of the apps that you install from the market from now on will be installed to the SD.
 
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