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Thanks,

Can you tell me where all these people are seeing these battery percentages(%) at? All I see on my phone is just the green battery indicator symbol, no percentages.
There are a couple applications that you can use (spare parts, battery graph, battery widget, open home, ect.)
 
I picked up the Moment on Friday and my schedule has made it kind of tough for me to truly condition the battery. I've completely drained the phone a couple times but just haven't had enough time to do a full charge then top off through USB. So far it's been like this:

- Full drain + full charge + full usb top off (initial use, ran whatever juice the battery had without charging it first)
- Drain to < 15% + partial charge
- Full drain + full charge + partial usb top off

Am I just screwing myself over here since I can't get a full charge + full top off consistently? The meter seems to be dropping faster than it should at this point, but I don't know if I've given it enough time to adjust. Should I do a factory reset and just start fresh and just go without my phone while I put it through it's paces? And on a side note, is there a setting to automatically put the phone in to sleep mode after a certain amount of time in case I forget to hit end, or does it do this on its own when the screen "times out"?

Thanks in advance...
 
I picked up the Moment on Friday and my schedule has made it kind of tough for me to truly condition the battery. I've completely drained the phone a couple times but just haven't had enough time to do a full charge then top off through USB. So far it's been like this:

- Full drain + full charge + full usb top off (initial use, ran whatever juice the battery had without charging it first)
- Drain to < 15% + partial charge
- Full drain + full charge + partial usb top off

Am I just screwing myself over here since I can't get a full charge + full top off consistently? The meter seems to be dropping faster than it should at this point, but I don't know if I've given it enough time to adjust. Should I do a factory reset and just start fresh and just go without my phone while I put it through it's paces? And on a side note, is there a setting to automatically put the phone in to sleep mode after a certain amount of time in case I forget to hit end, or does it do this on its own when the screen "times out"?

Thanks in advance...
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There are a couple applications that you can use (spare parts, battery graph, battery widget, open home, ect.)

Yep, and they're all butt-ass ugly, lol. Drives me a little crazy. The only ones that aren't completely awful looking are 1x2, which is more space than such a thing should take up IMO.
 
Look, I can see where you're coming from as a dev or whatever and having to repeat yourself. But after going through 15 pages and seeing various posts about improvements after cycling the battery, I want to make sure I'm doing what I can to get the most out of this thing. This thread either needs an updated OP with a detailed clarification on the battery issue and what steps (if any) can be taken until it is officially fixed by Sprint, or you can let others chime in and try to help the new people so you don't have to repeat yourself.
 
Look, I can see where you're coming from as a dev or whatever and having to repeat yourself. But after going through 15 pages and seeing various posts about improvements after cycling the battery, I want to make sure I'm doing what I can to get the most out of this thing. This thread either needs an updated OP with a detailed clarification on the battery issue and what steps (if any) can be taken until it is officially fixed by Sprint, or you can let others chime in and try to help the new people so you don't have to repeat yourself.
What they are seeing is not improvement by cycling.. they are seeing random fluctuations of the battery voltage depending upon usage and applications running and thought they were calibrating the battery.. it was nothing more then just not using it enough to trigger the reporting values... The reporting values are very very strange in the stock code (and very very wrong) so the same usage for the same amount of time would not always = the same amount of "usable" time before 15% and after 15%... This all turned out to be false when we started reading the battery code and how it calculates percentage..
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numus
01-06-2010 11:39 AM
by MobstaJ
371,030Samsung Moment
 
FWIW, I used to get about 10 hours before I hit 15% and the keyboard backlight shut down.

After installing Zeffie's latest kernel I can go for about two days before I get to 15%. But I'm not continually running GPS, WiFi or Bluethooth and only turn them on when I need to.
 
FWIW, I used to get about 10 hours before I hit 15% and the keyboard backlight shut down.

After installing Zeffie's latest kernel I can go for about two days before I get to 15%. But I'm not continually running GPS, WiFi or Bluethooth and only turn them on when I need to.
That would be because ZE08 implements my final battery code build that i took off of the behold II's battery structure profile (same battery)... while everything before ZE08 used a battery code me and Tbone "guessed" at for the profile (it was kinda close..).. and stock uses the dumbest profile i have ever seen
 
Not being all that up on android as I just got this phone, I think it is a software problem. I can put the phone in test mode and the battery will say 60%. I can reboot it and the battery indicator will look like 50% but go down to 15% before it gets finished booting. Put it back into test mode and it still says 60%. Surely Samsung could release a fix for this. It would'nt matter so much if the phone still did everything at low battery readings, but you cant take a picture (not that you really want to anyway with this camera) and the screen dims with no control.
 
Not being all that up on android as I just got this phone, I think it is a software problem.

Read Numus's posts. Not only does he know the reason, he's fixed the problem. But the fix isn't without risks. Read the thread called How to load Zeffie's custom kernels".
 
Maybe "risks" wasn't quite the right word. Maybe "nerve racking" is more accurate (for someone that's never done it before).

I'd say that's completely fair. I used to get nervous about this stuff when I was putting new ROMs on my WinMo phone, but now I've done it so much I'm numb to any concern.
 
is there a way to tell if the flash worked completely?
I just did it, and the phone rebooted - odin says "reset" and the time counter went up to 4 minutes.
 
I am using the stock/OEM firmware and I have been getting a little more than 2 full days of lite usage before needing to charge it. That was after the "conditioning" of the battery. Before that, I was only getting no more than 8 hours of usage. So may be it was in my head that "conditioning" worked or may be not. My wife has the same phone and hers was not "conditioned" and she has to charge it every night, but then, she may use it more often than I am. Since there is no harm to do the "conditioning", why not try it to see if that makes the difference.
 
Ok, so first off sorry about the post yesterday after they had figured out what was going on, somehow I missed the last two posts before mine. Now that thats out of the way, I thought I would tell my experience with the custom kernel. It was super easy to do using the instructions and gave me no trouble. I take my phone off of charge every day at 7:00. Yesterday by 9:00 it was at 50% and by 12:00 it was at 15%. So far today I have hit 9:00 at 90%. The phone seems quicker as well. I would just like to send out a big thank you, because I would have called to send the phone back yesterday at one point if there had been enough battery left to complete the call! So far so good!
 
Hey folks,

I was wondering if anyone else has noticed their Moment saying "Fully Charged" then shortly after taking it off the charger it reports at 80% left?

It's not that its draining that much battery that fast it just seems that it is not getting fully charged. The battery also isn't discharging abnormally fast like Hero pre 3rd party messaging, it just seems to report falsly that it is completely charged and stops charging. Has anyone else experienced this? Or should I go for an exchange and get a properly charging unit?

Doing some more tests to see if it will do this every time, or if I can get the bettery to take a full charge somehow.
Yeah mine does that too but since I drained it a couple of times it stays at 80% for about 4 hrs, and then at 50% for practically the rest of the evening and I'm a heavy texter too.
 
Yeah mine does that too but since I drained it a couple of times it stays at 80% for about 4 hrs, and then at 50% for practically the rest of the evening and I'm a heavy texter too.

I'm assuming that you are using the stock wall charger. If you use the USB cable to continue charging it after it displays 80%, it will charge all the way back up to 100% in about an hour.
 
The battery discharge is not uniform. I had a charge retention of 24 hour a few days ago despite using several application and yesterday, the battery scoop dived from 100% to 60% after using the phone for one or two calls. It is the battery getting affected by some sort of Extremely High Frequency(EHF) radiation probably from space or there is a defect to the battery. The latteral sides of the battery are not protected by metal casing. That could be the problem.
 
Yeah mine does that too but since I drained it a couple of times it stays at 80% for about 4 hrs, and then at 50% for practically the rest of the evening and I'm a heavy texter too.

Yes, that happened to me many times. I use Battery Graph to charge it 100% and terminate all application by advanced Task killer. Then it doesn't do it. It is somewhat amusing to see that the voice recognition program is always alive once the phone is awake.
 
Hey, I hope someone can help. My droid has now killed two batteries and I'm not sure what to do. I've had it for a little over a month and the first battery just quit. Thought it might be a battery problem and ordered a new one. Just received it today and the charge would not go above 10%. After several hours the phone stopped charging and is no longer working again. Not sure if there is a fix or I just got a bad phone.
 
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