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Help Always On Mobile Data
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evolution3d
Well-Known Member
Enable always-on mobile data should be checked.
Also disable all your roaming guards and make sure roaming is set to automatic.
Also disable all your roaming guards and make sure roaming is set to automatic.
Having it on hasn't hurt mine. I used to leave it off on my Evo.
having it on does cost some battery energy however its minuscule. id just leave it on.
toddpedersen
Well-Known Member
I have been successful with 24 to 36 plus hours in between charges with it unchecked. Having it checked means that your data is always on vs. letting the phone periodically turn on the data.
Whenever I have had the always on checkmarked, my battery life is reduced by 10% to 20%.
Whenever I have had the always on checkmarked, my battery life is reduced by 10% to 20%.
there are also other factors to include here, the more apps you have running in background will affect this, as well as your location to the nearest cellular tower, building construction, other RF, etc. etc...
one may experience a drastic increase in battery longevity whereas another many not even notice. And if one does not use a lot of background processes then they could also have a different number.
my recommendation is uncheck and run it for a day under ones NORMAL conditions and compare. see what works best for YOU. then drop a line here with your results to help others.
one may experience a drastic increase in battery longevity whereas another many not even notice. And if one does not use a lot of background processes then they could also have a different number.
my recommendation is uncheck and run it for a day under ones NORMAL conditions and compare. see what works best for YOU. then drop a line here with your results to help others.
AndroidMax
Android Enthusiast
If I can jump in here... I visit Chicago a lot. When I am in the city, if I leave Always on Mobile Data checked, my phone is dead in two hours... Not sure why. Probably due to the sprint signal going in and out as I enter buildings, etc, and the phone trying to roam on other networks. So I have learned to leave always on data OFF. It keeps my battery life within expected duration in the city, and generally doesn't effect the performance of any of my apps, one way or the other. Not sure why anyone would need it always on. (Not looking for a debate on that statement, just saying)...
novox77
Leeeroy Jennnkinnns!
This is one of those settings that really irk me.
The wording of the setting and its description makes no sense to me. To this day, I still don't really know what this setting is for. For example, what kind of condition would this setting restrict data? What qualifies as "mobile" data? Is there any other kind?
And there's no reliable way to test it to see how much impact it really makes. My daily fluctuation of usage is greater than 10-20%; therefore, if the setting makes a 10-20% difference, I won't know if it's because of the setting, or my usage, or variations in signal strength, where I went that day, etc. If I don't use the device at all, then the setting technically shouldn't have to do anything, so I still can't tell what its impact is.
I've tried to observe a change from a black box perspective and could not see any benefit or detriment. So I leave it on. For sure, there are lots of other things you can do to really improve battery life, so I don't consider this one a very important setting to modify.
The wording of the setting and its description makes no sense to me. To this day, I still don't really know what this setting is for. For example, what kind of condition would this setting restrict data? What qualifies as "mobile" data? Is there any other kind?
And there's no reliable way to test it to see how much impact it really makes. My daily fluctuation of usage is greater than 10-20%; therefore, if the setting makes a 10-20% difference, I won't know if it's because of the setting, or my usage, or variations in signal strength, where I went that day, etc. If I don't use the device at all, then the setting technically shouldn't have to do anything, so I still can't tell what its impact is.
I've tried to observe a change from a black box perspective and could not see any benefit or detriment. So I leave it on. For sure, there are lots of other things you can do to really improve battery life, so I don't consider this one a very important setting to modify.
RandoTheKing
Newbie
I'm having an extremely hard time comprehending how you're getting 24 hours out of this phone. I've had two now. The first one barely lasted 6 hours and this one will last 8-9 hours. I use it mainly for texting, wifi disabled and I can't even touch 4G if I want the phone to last more than a few hours. I probably send 300 texts a day and maybe 1 phone call.
I turned off always on data and I stopped getting texts. It was a mess
This setting simply turns off 3G around when you turn your screen off and it isn't in use.... kind of like an idle. I say around because it isn't instantaneous but if you have your screen off for awhile with this unchecked you can catch 3G popping back on when you turn it on. I leave mine unchecked because through trial and error I seem to get better battery life out of it with it off. Better idle battery life I should say. I think if you are constantly turning the screen on and off this setting might actually hurt a little because it is constantly disconnecting and connecting to 3g (just a guess on my part). But over all I recommend unchecking this unless you need email coming to your phone all day, in which case unchecking this will mean you will only receive email when your phone screen is on.
Not sure why you weren't getting text messages but Always on Data has nothing to do with texting (with the exception of MMS but they force data on regardless). As for the rest I will tell you my set up which is pretty easy: I use WiFi all day at my office and then at night at my house (saves a significant amount of battery life compared to 3G), I have always on data disabled, I turned off Automatic brightness and have it set around 20% (guesstimation here), and I use 4g when it calls for it. I also have Facebook for HTC Sense syncing once per day, Google Syncing, LinkedIn for Sense Once per day, Twitter every 4 hours, and weather every 3 hours. Every thing else in Accounts and Sync has been disabled. I send and receive texts all day and average about 1 hour or so of phone calls (maybe more maybe less depending on the day). I also receive send and receive emails and Gmail throughout the day. Generally on a day like that I get an average of 18 hours or so, some days less, a lot of days I get closer to 23-24 hours of usage. The biggest saver I have found on this phone is turning down the display rather than using automatic brightness.
evolution3d
Well-Known Member
Unchecking always on mobile data can delay regular text messages as well, not just MMS. Using an app like Juicedefender may also cause text message delays. I recommend leaving your data on always and if you're having battery issues find other areas to fine tune (email fetching, display brightness, haptic feedback, etc.)
No it can't to my understanding, texts come in just like phone calls and don't use 3G data. This is my third android phone and on all of them I keep always on data unchecked and get my texts just fine.
RandoTheKing
Newbie
I feel like doing that isn't even utilizing the phone as it's supposed to be utilized. Your phone is generally out of sync every time you use it whether it be weather, gmail, facebook, etc. That'd be frustrating.
I'll start using Wifi now to see if that helps but I figured having an additional antenna on would hurt battery life even more. I've turned brightness down and turned off heptic feedback. My weather is already set to 3 hours and Gmail is push notifications. GTalk is disabled, data is always on, and Facebook/Twitter will still send me push notifications. If this doesn't increase me to atleast 13 hours I'm going to be disappointed.
Well I disagree that it isn't utilizing the phone as it is supposed to be. I need weather info when I look at it, and when I look at it it updates. Same with Facebook, etc. I know it seems back assward but WiFi uses significantly less juice because it isn't nearly as powerful as 3G radio.
When the wifi connection is established, the phone automagically shuts off 3G - it's a power saver.
novox77
Leeeroy Jennnkinnns!
Wow, if that's true, then I should be seeing a MUCH bigger savings with this checkbox off. Because I normally keep 3G off unless I need it, and with the 3G radio off (and my phone screen off), my battery barely drains. If I uncheck this setting, however, my drain is still quite significant, so I think there's more going on.
But, let's assume you're completely correct. Why can't they call the setting "Disable 3G when screen off?" Wouldn't that make PERFECT sense to anyone who saw that setting?
HTC apparently calls 3G "mobile data." SMS is not sent via 3G at all. It's part of your voice radio (2G or 2.75G). Always has been before 3G was available. Therefore, shutting off 3G doesn't ever stop SMS from coming through. Super easy to test. Verified countless times myself (since I normally have 3G off).
. I think it is a mileage may vary thing here. I think, I am no expert and don't know for sure, that even with always on data off certain things might kick it back on when they need it. But that doesn't seem to be the case for me. With always on disabled my phone loses maybe 3% tops over an 8 hour idle period (while sleeping) vs with it on significantly bigger drain (completely unscientific). Having said all that you will definitely save more by having 3G completely off.
You know guys, I forgot my own advice.
I used to say to keep mobile data always on unchecked because I used to travel to my lab a lot and that had my phone tower hopping and trying to get data while off in my pocket on the drive.
I remember under those conditions, it saved me power.
Sitting around - eh, not so much.
I'm going to have to re-assess my claim on this one.
I used to say to keep mobile data always on unchecked because I used to travel to my lab a lot and that had my phone tower hopping and trying to get data while off in my pocket on the drive.
I remember under those conditions, it saved me power.
Sitting around - eh, not so much.
I'm going to have to re-assess my claim on this one.
oOMavrikOo
Android Expert
Is leaving this unchecked better than using Juice Defender, and will this affect my HTC widgets updating regularly when the screen is off?
toddpedersen
Well-Known Member
If you have widgets updating, I would say you would be affected. I personally do not have any widgets update because of the battery drain issues involved.
oOMavrikOo
Android Expert
Is it recommended to use Juice Defender?
toddpedersen
Well-Known Member
In my opinion only, I think that if you do a good enough job at power managment yourself, Juice Defender is not necessary. I recently went from not using the paid for Ultimate version that include auto wi-fi based on location, and think the difference between not having it turned on is minimal, but that said, I feel I do a good enough job on my own. I use Timeriffic to turn data off at night for example, which JuiceDefender does also.
I think the jury is out, but for me, I don't really personally need it.
I think the jury is out, but for me, I don't really personally need it.
hfc.t3ch83
Lurker
Will this affect the synchronization of email?