wrong.
while voltage can affect heat output, increased clock speed does create more heat. period.
You cannot honestly say that doubling the clock speed of the Droid has little affect on heat.
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My Droid is running at 1GHZ
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wrong.
while voltage can affect heat output, increased clock speed does create more heat. period.
You cannot honestly say that doubling the clock speed of the Droid has little affect on heat.
CRPercodani
OFWGKTA
Then why is the temp only 2-3 degrees different from stock vs 1.1ghz? I get what your saying about the app not being accurate for the actual processor temp, but if you compare the difference from stock to oc'd it is not much at all. Surely if the processor was burning up it would have more of a effect then 2 or 3 degrees.
And name calling isn't gonna be accepted here, debating is fine but act like a adult when doing so.
And name calling isn't gonna be accepted here, debating is fine but act like a adult when doing so.
gonzoguy24
Android Expert
Agreed
I am interested to hear about all those experimenting
. Why do people have to slam others? No one is forcing anyone to overclock. What people choose to do is their choice and this is the perfect place to post about this sort of thing!Keep the info coming! Very interesting topic
X amount of change in C is not the same amount of change in F
For example, 25*C = 77*F
a 5* change in C is a 9* change in F
If the app you (or anyone) is using displays the temps in C, I suggest changing it to F since most people have absolutely no concept of C since its not typically used in normal conversation in the United States.
I only bring this up since a 2* C difference may not seem like a lot, but thats only because people think in terms of F and assume 2* isnt much. But it can be.
gonzoguy24
Android Expert
No one has yet to burn out their processor correct? Time will tell then if people fry their CPUs?
CRPercodani
OFWGKTA
Thank you for pointing that out, I didn't even think of that when doing testing. The app does do F also but it displays the temp in C in the status bar so that is what I generally go by. My findings have been that stock vs 1.1 yields a 2-3 degree change in C, the highest I have ever been able to get the temp to is 38C and that was with a case on and using the GPS for like 45 minutes while streaming with Pandora. I keep a eye on that temp at all times and will pull the battery if it gets to hot, but I know full and well that I could easily fry the internals. I also set profiles in SETcpu to 550max 125min for charging/sleep/standby so it won't be running at 1.1ghz and heating up when there is no need for it.
gonzoguy24
Android Expert
What I would like to know are the specifications of the chip and the maximum temperatures it can withstand before failing or becoming damaged. I wonder if anyone can even get a hold of this info or has this info for a similar enough CPU (as far as materials/configuration etc)
CRPercodani
OFWGKTA
I don't think any chip is really safe at anything near 120F. Not a expert in this though.
gonzoguy24
Android Expert
I wouldn't really think so either...however, I really meant something along the lines of some manufacturer's specifications. Who makes the CPU? I wonder if we can get some specs? I am not too sure this is possible however :/.
But if 120 degrees is the max, i do not really foresee any of these chips getting that hot based on the temperatures you guys are experiencing from the OC.
On another note. I have slept on top of my droid in its case while it was charging before and the thing got so HOT it woke me up. Cannot say for sure but the thing was not just warm it was actually hot to the touch. It must have been like that for some time and my phone was fine. Hope that puts some minds at east
If someone has a spare droid they could always test the heat it could take by stickin it in a toaster over
lol i'm mostly kidding of courseI wouldn't really think so either...however, I really meant something along the lines of some manufacturer's specifications. Who makes the CPU? I wonder if we can get some specs? I am not too sure this is possible however :/.
But if 120 degrees is the max, i do not really foresee any of these chips getting that hot based on the temperatures you guys are experiencing from the OC.
On another note. I have slept on top of my droid in its case while it was charging before and the thing got so HOT it woke me up. Cannot say for sure but the thing was not just warm it was actually hot to the touch. It must have been like that for some time and my phone was fine. Hope that puts some minds at east
If someone has a spare droid they could always test the heat it could take by stickin it in a toaster over
If the device is hot to the touch, then needless to say, its too hot. At those temps, components can be damaged, though this would have to occur with significant frequency and intensity. One time probably isnt going to do much damage.
As for your previous post about specs - if you do a Google search for the processor that is in the droid, I'm sure you can find all the specs. Its TI component, so maybe even contacting them.
CRPercodani
OFWGKTA
On another note. I have slept on top of my droid in its case while it was charging before and the thing got so HOT it woke me up. Cannot say for sure but the thing was not just warm it was actually hot to the touch. It must have been like that for some time and my phone was fine. Hope that puts some minds at east
I would imagine SLEEPING on your Droid would generate a ton of heat both from your body and the fact that it wouldn't be able to get any type of air circulation. Was it overclocked? Mine has never been hot to the touch, it got rather warm once or twice when I was recording video for like 25 minutes.
gonzoguy24
Android Expert
No s*** it was wayyyy too hot. My point was exactly what you are saying. It did no damage that one time when it got incredibly hot and so a few degrees here and there is probably okay.
Thanks for pointing this out.
ARM Cortex-A8 - ARM Processor
OMAP™ 3 Processors - OMAP3430
I have not dug deep enough to find any temperature specs but above are the links. Not sure if this helps anybody at all. Sorry if I am wasting anyone's time.
Thanks deeznuts
messenger13
Android Expert
So ... does this mean we need to start a "Is dry-humping my DROID bad?" thread? 
gonzoguy24
Android Expert
Not overclocked...it was brand new. I was wasted and that is why i slept on it so long.
messenger13
Android Expert
Click on that link and scroll to the bottom of the page ... notice the chart. Something very interesting, you might find.
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gonzoguy24
Android Expert
So ... does this mean we need to start a "Is dry-humping my DROID bad?" thread?
Bahahahaha actually I was in my woman's apartment sooooo......
and i noticed that 1100 MHZ as well
CRPercodani
OFWGKTA
Click on that link and scroll to the bottom of the page ... notice the chart. Something very interesting, you might find.
Yea some users have pointed that out, but it is just the specs of what the Cortex A8 architecture can handle, not the actual TI OMAP3430 SoC we have in our Droid's.
CRPercodani
OFWGKTA
I want a Cortex A9MPCore in my next phone. Nothing else. 3Ghz sounds good.
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The processor is also capable of 12MP images and HD output....neither of which our phones have
johnlgalt
Antidisestablishmentarian
Actually, now that I look I am having bigger problems than I previously thought.
I rooted, then upgraded to Sholes 1.2 - no issues there. Then I applied the evil 800MHz boot patch, and installed setCPU.
Now, WiFi is broken (trying to resolve that) as well as Set CPU showed me 800 MHz default but as soon as I tried to adjust the slider it changed back to the 550 MHz default max and I can see no way to change it.
I know I am missing something simple - but what is it?
I rooted, then upgraded to Sholes 1.2 - no issues there. Then I applied the evil 800MHz boot patch, and installed setCPU.
Now, WiFi is broken (trying to resolve that) as well as Set CPU showed me 800 MHz default but as soon as I tried to adjust the slider it changed back to the 550 MHz default max and I can see no way to change it.
I know I am missing something simple - but what is it?
johnlgalt
Antidisestablishmentarian
Said fixes out there that are confusing me - I can't find a good start to finish how to on the WiFi fix.
I've moved on to Pete's Bugless Beast 800, until I get this figured out - I'd much rather have WiFi working right now than anything, as I am home all weekend....
I've moved on to Pete's Bugless Beast 800, until I get this figured out - I'd much rather have WiFi working right now than anything, as I am home all weekend....
gonzoguy24
Android Expert
If no one answered it may mean no one knew the answer??? I'm sorry man...