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Root Don't delete Easy WiFi yet!

Hey ZUD, so this means that by using EasyWiFi, hidden somewhere in the fine print user agreement EasyWiFi logs your home WiFi and therefore you become part of their network automatically and potentially sharing your WiFi with everyone? Is this even legal???

According to the link that NUKED posted, Easy WiFi - Home , many of the of the hotspots on the Easy WiFi site seem to be residential addresses. Even if these are all just 'open hotspots', why would EasyWiFi claim them as their own on their website? This is somewhat disturbing!

Hotspot Map:
Easy WiFi - Home

Correct me if I am wrong, but if this is true, this is enough reason for anyone to delete this bloatware. And yes it is "Bloatware" by definition; "generally use more system resources than necessary, while offering little or no benefit to its users."

When I look on that map my address shows as a EasyWiFi network... even though I haven't had the app on one of my phones for 3-4 months. Regardless of whether they make my WiFi available, I still don't like the fact that my secured router is shown to exist to the whole world. Who knows what other info they keep to themselves and for how long?

zud
 
I found a couple of posts on their website....


How come my private wifi network is listed open on your map?
It certainly shouldn't be on the map as open to all (and we definitely won't be sending anybody other than you the keys to the network)
Secure private networks should never appear on the map;
Am I sharing?
Your home network, or any others you have entered manually, are not shared. The exception is if your network is open (ie has no security key) in which case easy wifi will automatically add it.
 
It is interesting, maybe its all the residential wi-fi's that aren't locked down lol. Wardriving FTW!

Mine is definitely locked down - I'm going to be all kinds of bent out of shape if I have to go through all the internet devices in my house and change the passwords!
 
I found a couple of posts on their website....

Your home network, or any others you have entered manually, are not shared. The exception is if your network is open (ie has no security key) in which case easy wifi will automatically add it.

This is illegal! Unless you have permission to use someones open wireless network it is a crime to connect to it, even more so to claim it as part of your network. Why do you think Windows doesn't automatically connect to open wireless networks anymore? This program is a lawsuit waiting to happen.
 
This is illegal! Unless you have permission to use someones open wireless network it is a crime to connect to it, even more so to claim it as part of your network. Why do you think Windows doesn't automatically connect to open wireless networks anymore? This program is a lawsuit waiting to happen.


true that but metro feels hey if they can root our/there phones, we can use there internet, lmao
 
free WiFi anyway. Also keep in mind that if EasyWiFi logs your home WiFi you are now a part of their network and are potentially sharing your WiFi with millions of people... screw that.

zud

That is NOT true. You are showing your ignorance.
 
The only reason metro includes this program is so it will automatically connect to open networks to take strain off their network. It does not log your password so if your network is secured you are fine (and if your network isn't secured then you deserve it anyway for being ignorant). In all this app is a neuscence that connects you to networks that seem to be slower then our 4g. It is unnecessary and the stock WiFi connector in settings works better. The stock tells you there is an open network but doesn't automatically connect which I prefer.

So if you look at it that way EasyWiFi is bloatware.
 
The only reason metro includes this program is so it will automatically connect to open networks to take strain off their network. It does not log your password so if your network is secured you are fine (and if your network isn't secured then you deserve it anyway for being ignorant). In all this app is a neuscence that connects you to networks that seem to be slower then our 4g. It is unnecessary and the stock WiFi connector in settings works better. The stock tells you there is an open network but doesn't automatically connect which I prefer.

So if you look at it that way EasyWiFi is bloatware.

your post is to the original poster, im good, lol
 
That is NOT true. You are showing your ignorance.

Really? So, my secure, hidden network is now logged by EasyWifi and shows up on their maps as a EasyWiFi hotspot and their service is designed to connect their users to their hotspots... your saying I'm ignorant to be concerned that any of their millions of users who happen to be near my home couldn't log in through my router?

I happen to live in a fairly tourist-y area, within WiFi distance of off beach parking, rental homes and the beach (where I see people all time with tablets, latptops and smartphones). And being that Florida is one of Metro's biggest markets, I'm sure that many Metro customers, with EasyWiFi enabled phones have been well within range of my router.

EasyWiFi can say whatever they want about how they log and store their info. The fact that i haven't had their app active on a phone with my router credentials in 4-5 months, and it still shows on their maps... for anyone to see... is 100% BS on their behalf. So, I don't trust the reliability of their security measures.

How are facts ignorant?

Fact: I can go to EasyWiFi's site and see an EasyWiFi hotspot indicator right on top of my house. Which means anyone could go to their site and do the same.... kinda defeats the purpose of hiding your SSID if people can easily find that a network exists there... don't you think? Forget their users for a minute... a hacker doesn't need credentials, they just need to know the router is there. While, sure a hacker could find it anyway if they wanted to, this just makes it easier for them. Would you want your secure, hidden network pointed out? No, that's why you hide it.
Fact I haven't had EasyWiFi on a phone for 4-5 months.
Fact EasyWiFi stores credentials... if they didn't why would you need them? You don't need credentials for open hotspots.

I'm not sure what you do ChazzMatt, and usually I agree with what you say. But, I've got to disagree with you... from what I can see this is true, and I'm not ignorant.

zud
 
Really? So, my secure, hidden network is now logged by EasyWifi and shows up on their maps as a EasyWiFi hotspot and their service is designed to connect their users to their hotspots... your saying I'm ignorant to be concerned that any of their millions of users who happen to be near my home couldn't log in through my router?

I happen to live in a fairly tourist-y area, within WiFi distance of off beach parking, rental homes and the beach (where I see people all time with tablets, latptops and smartphones). And being that Florida is one of Metro's biggest markets, I'm sure that many Metro customers, with EasyWiFi enabled phones have been well within range of my router.

EasyWiFi can say whatever they want about how they log and store their info. The fact that i haven't had their app active on a phone with my router credentials in 4-5 months, and it still shows on their maps... for anyone to see... is 100% BS on their behalf. So, I don't trust the reliability of their security measures.

How are facts ignorant?

Fact: I can go to EasyWiFi's site and see an EasyWiFi hotspot indicator right on top of my house. Which means anyone could go to their site and do the same.... kinda defeats the purpose of hiding your SSID if people can easily find that a network exists there... don't you think? Forget their users for a minute... a hacker doesn't need credentials, they just need to know the router is there. While, sure a hacker could find it anyway if they wanted to, this just makes it easier for them. Would you want your secure, hidden network pointed out? No, that's why you hide it.
Fact I haven't had EasyWiFi on a phone for 4-5 months.
Fact EasyWiFi stores credentials... if they didn't why would you need them? You don't need credentials for open hotspots.

I'm not sure what you do ChazzMatt, and usually I agree with what you say. But, I've got to disagree with you... from what I can see this is true, and I'm not ignorant.

zud

If that is true then Delete easy wifi off your phone and change your Network password, if you really want to be safe you can change your SSID as well.
 
If that is true then Delete easy wifi off your phone and change your Network password, if you really want to be safe you can change your SSID as well.

I haven't had EasyWiFi active on any phone in my house for 4-5 months. It was removed from my Optimus, and is gone from my Esteem. My house still shows as a EasyWiFi hotspot. Even changing the SSID and keeping it hidden doesn't hide the fact that my house still shows as having a hotspot. It's like a locked door... it only keeps honest people honest. I don't like the fact that anyone even knows there is a router here.

zud
 
Out of sheer, morbid curiousity, I reinstalled Easy Wifi from the MetroApps market... Doesn't work. I launch it and nothing happens.
 
Really? So, my secure, hidden network is now logged by EasyWifi and shows up on their maps as a EasyWiFi hotspot and their service is designed to connect their users to their hotspots... your saying I'm ignorant to be concerned that any of their millions of users who happen to be near my home couldn't log in through my router?

I happen to live in a fairly tourist-y area, within WiFi distance of off beach parking, rental homes and the beach (where I see people all time with tablets, latptops and smartphones). And being that Florida is one of Metro's biggest markets, I'm sure that many Metro customers, with EasyWiFi enabled phones have been well within range of my router.

EasyWiFi can say whatever they want about how they log and store their info. The fact that i haven't had their app active on a phone with my router credentials in 4-5 months, and it still shows on their maps... for anyone to see... is 100% BS on their behalf. So, I don't trust the reliability of their security measures.

How are facts ignorant?

Fact: I can go to EasyWiFi's site and see an EasyWiFi hotspot indicator right on top of my house. Which means anyone could go to their site and do the same.... kinda defeats the purpose of hiding your SSID if people can easily find that a network exists there... don't you think? Forget their users for a minute... a hacker doesn't need credentials, they just need to know the router is there. While, sure a hacker could find it anyway if they wanted to, this just makes it easier for them. Would you want your secure, hidden network pointed out? No, that's why you hide it.
Fact I haven't had EasyWiFi on a phone for 4-5 months.
Fact EasyWiFi stores credentials... if they didn't why would you need them? You don't need credentials for open hotspots.

I'm not sure what you do ChazzMatt, and usually I agree with what you say. But, I've got to disagree with you... from what I can see this is true, and I'm not ignorant.

zud


Ignorance is lack of knowledge. The "facts" you are reporting are not the complete truth -- because you have not investigated to see how the system works.

Easy Wi-Fi does NOT store passwords for secure networks. The credentials they have are for open networks or networks with whom they have agreements. Sure, most of the open networks you could manually join, but Easy Wifi can do it automatically.

Ignorant people are spreading these rumors about Easy WiFi for some reason. Please stop. Easy Wi-Fi does NOT store passwords for secured networks.

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The "hotspot" you see at your house is not your network. NO, YOUR wi-fi router is not listed in the Metro Easy Wi-Fi network -- unless you are stupid enough to have a completely open network.

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Don't believe me or Dreamscape (the company who created Easy Wi-fi?) Here's how you can really check. Not your way, your way is crap. ;) If you go to the Easy WiFi network on your PC -- and you are not registered and logged in as an account holder -- all you will see is a "general view" of reported Easy Wi-Fi hotspots, some of which may be near your house. It may LOOK like it's at your house, but it's through Google Maps APIs, reported by GPS wi-fi data, which is only accurate within a few hundred feet. There is a better way to check which I will tell you about in a minute...

For instance, at MY house, the PC map shows TWO Easy Wi-Fi hotspots. TWO! Right at my house! :eek: Both are inaccurate. Because with your computer, you are not really "logged in" to the system. It just shows alleged hotspots. But that view on the computer does NOT show the SSIDs (network names) associated with the hotspots... Not being logged in, you do not have the right to see details about those networks.


The REAL way to check is to use your MetroPCS Android, and with the Easy Wi-Fi app, use the map on that app to go to your house. (NOT the phone's browser, the map in your Easy Wi-Fi app.) Since you are automatically "logged in" with MetroPCS supplied credentials you will then see the SSIDs (network names) of any hotspots at that location.

In this detailed view, I can see that neither of the two reported hotspots at my house are my secured network. NOT my router. They are open hotspots of neighbors. I can tell by the network names, as I can also see those names on my wife's laptop in the regular Windows wi-fi nearby networks view (part of Windows). Yet, both are "pinned" to MY house. Why? Faulty GPS reporting. :rolleyes:

I even contacted Easy Wi-Fi to make sure. John Gordon, one of their engineers was very helpful. He searched their database for my SSID (it's very unique) and said it did not appear anywhere. When I reported my concern about the PC map view, he double checked to make sure there was not a bug in their system that was perhaps SHOWING a secure network as being an Easy Wi-Fi hotspot -- even though no one could access it. < Read that again. It would be a "false" hotspot listing, because again Easy WiFi does NOT store secured network passwords. But after thoroughly investigating, even that was NOT the case (no bug, no false report). Instead it's simple faulty GPS reporting. Some Easy Wi-Fi app reported a couple of open networks as they were driving by my house, apparently. Again, wi-fi gps reporting is not totally accurate. So, while the blue dots show up at my address, using the Easy Wi-Fi app I could clearly see their SSIDs, and they are NOT mine.

He even sent me a screen shot of his iPhone Easy Wi-Fi map view of my house, so that I could see what people using other phones would see. It was identical to what my LG Esteem Easy Wi-fi was seeing -- which is more detailed than the "general" website map view.

The engineer John Gordon even said some open networks may show up that were there in the past -- there's one two streets over from me that has not been active since August, and will soon drop off the website map.


But, using the Easy Wi-Fi app map, if you find your SSID is listed, then your wi-fi router is not secure and it's not Easy Wi-Fi's fault. It's yours. Easy Wi-Fi does NOT store passwords for secured networks.

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This web page is good too. It's Metro's Easy Wifi page:
MetroPCS WiFi Locator
 
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