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Kindle Fire and No Android Market?

Bob Maxey

Bob Maxey

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Apparently, Amazon mentions the millions of books, songs, and music available for download. They also mention that applications can be downloaded from Amazon. there is NO mention of access to the Android Market.

Does anyone know if the AM is accessible?
 
Bob Maxey said:
Apparently, Amazon mentions the millions of books, songs, and music available for download. They also mention that applications can be downloaded from Amazon. there is NO mention of access to the Android Market.

Does anyone know if the AM is accessible?
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It looks like no. Its supposed to be an Amazon experience. Dont know if you can still sideload though. Either way, im sure well have root and roms on this thing soon. (At least i hope. Id get one if we did)
 
The Kindle Fire will not have the Android Market, but it will have the Amazon Android Market.

If your have an Android Phone or tablet, you can install the Android market on it the check out the apps you can get from the Amazon Android market.
 
slbailey1 said:
The Kindle Fire will not have the Android Market, but it will have the Amazon Android Market.

If your have an Android Phone or tablet, you can install the Android market on it the check out the apps you can get from the Amazon Android market.
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Assuming both markets are equal. I would try to sell my apps in all possible markets if I were a dev. Perhaps the lack of an android market is not a big deal.
 
Yeah, by the sound of it google treat the developers much better than Amazon do. Amazon are also slower to push out updates to apps, currently.
 
Amazon is B level compared to Google market and is pickier than iTunes if you have multiple devices. Keeps telling me I do not own Peggle and PvZ when trying to install to my Flyer. I have both installed on my D3 and Thrive. No such issues with my other apps through Google market.

Also, if you are not on line, the Amazon validation process can stop you from using apps. Some work, some do not.

Amazon market seems like a second rate iTunes effort.
 
rushmore said:
Amazon is B level compared to Google market and is pickier than iTunes if you have multiple devices. Keeps telling me I do not own Peggle and PvZ when trying to install to my Flyer. I have both installed on my D3 and Thrive. No such issues with my other apps through Google market.

Also, if you are not on line, the Amazon validation process can stop you from using apps. Some work, some do not.

Amazon market seems like a second rate iTunes effort.
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They definitely need to work on their market. No question about that. I have the market installed on my phone and my tablet. Same account on both devices. The phone says I own 50 some odd apps, the tablet says I own 80. I can't get it to fix itself.
 
dschwa said:
If there is no A market does that mean no gmail, no maps, no YouTube?
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Yes and no. There probably won't be any official "Google" apps for gmail, maps, youtube and the like, however amazon may provide their own apps as replacement. Otherwise those functions can be done in a web browser, just like on your computer. As gmail, maps, etc. apps are really just front-ends to their web-based counterparts.

Apps just make it easier to use Google's services on a mobile device.

Edit: However once this thing is rooted, I'm sure there will be an easy way to install the market.
 
xfuchsiax said:
Could I use this or a similar app to send the APK from my phone to my Kindle Fire and install that way?

Android Market - ShareMyApps
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From what i have read, you can sideload many apps but because the Fire does not have any 'home' button, you will not be able to exit a number of apps from Android app store. And i guess from initial reviews, a good number also crash badly if they arent from the Amazon App store
 
Even if they do work, the Android apps will be more buggy than an exterminator's worse nightmare. Different platforms do not like to play together.
 
My plan is to see if I can get a decent percentage of my commonly-used apps to sideload in stock UI. If not, I'll be rooting as soon as there's something stable (and hopefully something that also allows you to keep the Silk browser, as it sounds nice). I don't want to lose the "shiny" part of the Fire UI but if the shiny is giving me functionality problems then it's the first thing to go.
 
Amazon sells content, books, movies, music and what not. Sure they sell other goods too, but they simply aren’t in the hardware business. All of the Kindles are great e-reader, but I bet in Amazon’s mind all they are good for is selling books. Look at it this way, if you own a Kindle and what to by a book where is the first place you look? The Kindle store where else. In the long term Amazon is going to make more money selling you books then they ever did selling you the device to read it on. This is going to be true of the Fire too. If they can get their tablet into everyone’s hands because of a low price point they will make a killing selling everyone Angry Birds and Words with Friends again. They would be silly to offer a competing market.

TL;DR

Why would Amazon offer the Android Market when they don’t get a cut from the sales?
 
I'm fairly disappointed about the lack of Android Market.

More fragmentation is not what Android needs right now. I'm surprised Google allows this, but then again this is an "open" OS. I'm sure at least some of them are wishing they were a little bit more like Apple in this kind of situation.

Hopefully Amazon's Appstore will share most, if not all, of its content with Google's Market. I wish it the best. This is certainly a chance they are taking with this device, and I suppose all of the more loyal Android users should just be happy about the publicity -- an increase in users means an increase in developers -- and eventually, more quantity and quality of apps.
 
I use both the Android Market and the Amazon App Store. It is nice to have a choice. I know somebody will find a way to get the Android market on the Fire.
 
Pulsar said:
I use both the Android Market and the Amazon App Store. It is nice to have a choice. I know somebody will find a way to get the Android market on the Fire.
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The real question is whether Amazon will allow it, though.

They're already collecting a lot of information about users as it is (that's how they can manage a $200 dollar price tag).

I still haven't seen a confirmation on the bootloader being locked or not. And it's quite possibly it may be very difficult to root and sideload on.
 
I don't believe the no Android Market thing will be a very big issue for very long. Developers would be stupid not to get their apps working for the Fire when it will clearly be the most successful Android tablet to date. You take your app's where the consumers are. This doesn't mean the Fire will get all the goodies of the Android Market, but I do believe it will get the essentials.
 
HoPPy785 said:
I don't believe the no Android Market thing will be a very big issue for very long. Developers would be stupid not to get their apps working for the Fire when it will clearly be the most successful Android tablet to date. You take your app's where the consumers are. This doesn't mean the Fire will get all the goodies of the Android Market, but I do believe it will get the essentials.
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Actually, even with all the KF sales, I'd bet there are still more Honeycomb tablets out there. And once ICS takes over, all apps will be phone/tablet cross-platform. I don't see the draw for devs to the KF
 
According to the reviews I've read, all the apps you can find in the Amazon Appstore can be found on the Fire. If that is true, then the market is a non-issue for the vast majority of people.
 
ylexot said:
Actually, even with all the KF sales, I'd bet there are still more Honeycomb tablets out there. And once ICS takes over, all apps will be phone/tablet cross-platform. I don't see the draw for devs to the KF
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I see your point but do you really think devs will be too lazy to port over their apps to the fire and be willing to miss out on the extra cash. It's not like they're porting from iOS, it would be far to simple not to make your app Fire compatible.
 
HoPPy785 said:
I see your point but do you really think devs will be too lazy to port over their apps to the fire and be willing to miss out on the extra cash. It's not like they're porting from iOS, it would be far to simple not to make your app Fire compatible.
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There's no need for porting. Everything scales on Android. If your app will work on a tablet, it'll work on the Fire.
 
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