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Issues that the HTC Evo v could be another Triumph

First time smartphone user here, so this is also my first time debating whether or not to upgrade.:o I'm wrestling with getting this phone for its specs alone (I just want a phone that doesn't chug doing something as simple as menu navigation), but I'm concerned that it may be bulky, and that I'm paying a premium for a 3D feature that I will never use.:(

Should I get this phone sooner rather than later, or should I hold off for something just as powerful (and with a better camera than 5 megapixels) to come along to Virgin Mobile's network? If I were to wait, how long do new phone models generally take to roll out?
 
Gamescook said:
First time smartphone user here, so this is also my first time debating whether or not to upgrade.:o I'm wrestling with getting this phone for its specs alone (I just want a phone that doesn't chug doing something as simple as menu navigation), but I'm concerned that it may be bulky, and that I'm paying a premium for a 3D feature that I will never use.:(

Should I get this phone sooner rather than later, or should I hold off for something just as powerful (and with a better camera than 5 megapixels) to come along to Virgin Mobile's network? If I were to wait, how long do new phone models generally take to roll out?
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This and the Iphone will be the best phones on VM for the next year most likely.

The only other phone we are waiting on is the One V, and that will probably wrap up most releases for several months and even then, any new release probably won't be top of the line.

3d, igbnore it, same as 4g. If you get 4g, great, but don't buy it for that.

As for bulk, it depends on what you are using. Upgrading from an Optimus V it's a bit of a shock at first. Give it a day and you will appreciate the screen size. Give it 3 days, and the bulk will almost vanish and the OV will seem like a toy. A week and you won't notice the bulk at all and will really start to think the OV is TINY.

Is it worth it?
Most phones are plenty capable, even if slow. So really the question you should ask is, how much is a fast, great phone worth to you? Me? I love it and don't regret it one bit.

The bigger screen, new voice mail, better battery, faster speed, and feel in my hand is a huge improvement over the OV and my Evo 4G.
 
Leslie Ann said:
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As for bulk, it depends on what you are using. Upgrading from an Optimus V it's a bit of a shock at first. Give it a day and you will appreciate the screen size. Give it 3 days, and the bulk will almost vanish and the OV will seem like a toy. A week and you won't notice the bulk at all and will really start to think the OV is TINY.
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I found myself nodding as I read the description above. The only negative thing that I can come up with for the Evo V is that when I speak on the phone, I tend to press it to my ear, and it's not as comfortable as the OV. Even my battery life with the Evo is on par with the OV. No 4G in my tiny city of 600,000, and still very pleased with the performance of the phone.

The only real disappointment I have is with VM. When I'm in areas that are mapped as full service data areas, and I have full bars, and my data speeds are in the dual digits (44 kilobits per second for example, worse than a 56k modem from 1995), VM has locale issues that really need to be resolved.
 
KryptoNyte said:
I found myself nodding as I read the description above. The only negative thing that I can come up with for the Evo V is that when I speak on the phone, I tend to press it to my ear, and it's not as comfortable as the OV. Even my battery life with the Evo is on par with the OV. No 4G in my tiny city of 600,000, and still very pleased with the performance of the phone.
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Lol i live in a city of 200k and i have 4g
 
coco3133 said:
Lol i live in a city of 200k and i have 4g
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i was checking some 4g coverage in wisco, and even tomah had 4g lol. its obviously protection sites, but thats still funny to me. in my enormous town of 15k, i will settle on 1-2 bars and 3g. fortunately ive talked a lot of friends into switching to go sms pro, so even with no bars i can text with ease on wifi.
 
Leslie Ann said:
This and the Iphone will be the best phones on VM for the next year most likely.

The only other phone we are waiting on is the One V, and that will probably wrap up most releases for several months and even then, any new release probably won't be top of the line.

3d, igbnore it, same as 4g. If you get 4g, great, but don't buy it for that.

As for bulk, it depends on what you are using. Upgrading from an Optimus V it's a bit of a shock at first. Give it a day and you will appreciate the screen size. Give it 3 days, and the bulk will almost vanish and the OV will seem like a toy. A week and you won't notice the bulk at all and will really start to think the OV is TINY.
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How did you know I have an Optimus V? :)

I live in West Virginia along a major interstate, so all places I've been to in the state are on the coverage map. Even if I get the same 3G service, I would think the snappy 1.2Ghz dual-core processor will pick up a tiny bit of the slack, speeding up browsing just a hair with sheer horsepower alone.

My Optimus V so quickly ran out of internal memory, and no amount of housecleaning (moving applications to the SD card the few times it was even allowed by the devs, deleting other apps, forcing some to stop running in the background) seemed to speed it back up.

Scrolling through menus was like watching a slideshow, waiting for apps for their individual icons to fill in the placeholders and seeing their "real names" (like Streetviewroid.providers.whatever) switching over to their "common names" (like just Street View), and just to get it to recognize my tap the first time rather than the third was grating on the nerves.:mad:

And when I say bulk, I meant thickness and weight. I don't want it to be distractingly large ad protruding when in a pocket, but I don't mind width so long as the phone itself is fairly thin. I want the giant screen, because I already fumble enough with hitting the right buttons and prompts in the first place. I want to avoid the whole mess of my tapping once and wondering if it's loading the next screen or missing the button entirely, waiting for something that won't happen, with the phone and I just sitting there like boobs.:rolleyes:
 
Gamescook said:
How did you know I have an Optimus V? :)

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My Optimus V so quickly ran out of internal memory, and no amount of housecleaning (moving applications to the SD card the few times it was even allowed by the devs, deleting other apps, forcing some to stop running in the background) seemed to speed it back up.

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And when I say bulk, I meant thickness and weight. I don't want it to be distractingly large ad protruding when in a pocket, but I don't mind width so long as the phone itself is fairly thin.
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:) I knew it was a an OV because if you had a Triumph you would have been less concerned with the size.

I never really ran the stock rom, I rooted right away and by the time my battery was charged I had a rom installed (if I borked it, I wanted it to happen right away). So while I can't tell you how much stock has, I can tell you that Harmonia 3 has 1.15 gigs of app storage, and even with all my stuff, and without moving anything to sd, I have almost 600 megs to spare. Moving some apps I could probably get back to nearly 800. There is LOADS of room.


Surprisingly... If you go based on the camera protrusion, the Evo V is just as thick as an OV, the rest is actually thinner (I just set them side by side on a desk). It's feels thinner and lighter than it looks. I wouldn't worry about weight or thickness if you aren't worried about length and width (width difference is minimal). Besides, if it fits in my pockets just fine, I'm sure it will on you (mine are smaller).
 
I hear the first batch repurposed from Sprint is kind of hit and miss, voicemail woes, hardware problems, a difficult to use power button, etc. So here's another question: should I wait for the new batch of EVO V 4Gs to be made before diving in?
 
Gamescook said:
I hear the first batch repurposed from Sprint is kind of hit and miss, voicemail woes, hardware problems, a difficult to use power button, etc. So here's another question: should I wait for the new batch of EVO V 4Gs to be made before diving in?
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where you heard that at?

atleast the one that i got is working fine, no problems yet, only problem i had was the voicemail, but it was not a hardware problem, it was more an activation problem, when i made the switch from MT to EVO
 
Gamescook said:
I hear the first batch repurposed from Sprint is kind of hit and miss, voicemail woes, hardware problems, a difficult to use power button, etc. So here's another question: should I wait for the new batch of EVO V 4Gs to be made before diving in?
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Voicemail is a Virgin issue. You get moved to Sprint's voicemail.

The power button... You are hearing from those who have trouble, not from the masses that aren't.

If I get three complaints about a rom issue, people freak out, what they don't see is that 1000+ people have used the rom and not had a problem, and just didn't say anything.Just because you see a few complaints, doesn't mean there is a problem.
 
coco3133 said:
Oppies i meant 100k
And Green Bay, the packers are good for something and thats 4G :D
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Coco, are you sure there is 4G? The reason I ask is that it was my understanding that no location in the state of Wisconsin would have any Sprint/Virgin Mobile 4G service until late 2012, early 2013. Additionally, when I view the Virgin Mobile coverage map (with only 4G service checked), the entire state is blank, although there might be a remote possibility of some overspill into WI from Minneapolis or Chicago.

http://www.virginmobileusa.com/check-cell-phone-coverage
 
Leslie Ann said:
Voicemail is a Virgin issue. You get moved to Sprint's voicemail.

The power button... You are hearing from those who have trouble, not from the masses that aren't.

If I get three complaints about a rom issue, people freak out, what they don't see is that 1000+ people have used the rom and not had a problem, and just didn't say anything.Just because you see a few complaints, doesn't mean there is a problem.
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I'm a total amateur, because I'm not one to root my smartphones, so I know nothing about ROMs.:o

I've just been hearing that Virgin Mobile themselves will manufacture a second batch themselves as opposed to using Sprint's rebranded leftovers, and that might have something to do with a power switch interacting poorly with the battery or something. I'm not 100% on the details myself, but I think it is covered somewhere on this forum.
 
KryptoNyte said:
Coco, are you sure there is 4G? The reason I ask is that it was my understanding that no location in the state of Wisconsin would have any Sprint/Virgin Mobile 4G service until late 2012, early 2013. Additionally, when I view the Virgin Mobile coverage map (with only 4G service checked), the entire state is blank, although there might be a remote possibility of some overspill into WI from Minneapolis or Chicago.

http://www.virginmobileusa.com/check-cell-phone-coverage
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My girlfriend has a HTC Evo 4G with sprint, and she gets good 4g coverage in green bay
Clearwire,sprint,VM dont update the map apparently......
 
Gamescook said:
I'm a total amateur, because I'm not one to root my smartphones, so I know nothing about ROMs.:o

I've just been hearing that Virgin Mobile themselves will manufacture a second batch themselves as opposed to using Sprint's rebranded leftovers, and that might have something to do with a power switch interacting poorly with the battery or something. I'm not 100% on the details myself, but I think it is covered somewhere on this forum.
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It's not about roms, it's a matter of perception. You see three people with issues and think there is a problem, when in reality, you are talking 3 people out of 1000. Unhappy people make more noise than happy people.

As for the Virgin model, the only difference is it the HTC logo on front has shifted to center, the Sprint logo is gone, and they added a Virgin logo on back. That is all they changed.
 
:D

That is why companies should be transperant about things for a phone model such as -


How may phones they sold

How many complaints they received and numbers by problem category

How many were hardware related problems

How many were software related

How many they were able to resolve

How many phones were returned

How many phones were exchanged/replaced

How much average time it took to resolve an issue


If a company really sells good products and has a great customer service then they can use this information as marketing tool to project their reliability and service.

Obviously, products like Triumph will cause a lot of hesitation for any company to publish above metrices.

:D
 
EdAndInn said:
If a company really sells good products and has a great customer service then they can use this information as marketing tool to project their reliability and service.

Obviously, products like Triumph will cause a lot of hesitation for any company to publish above metrices.
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Some of these metrics exist, and you would really be shocked at some of the numbers and who makes a truly quality product and who makes junk.

I haven't seen the cell phone numbers, but I have seen the numbers on computers. The companies don't promote this simply because reliability sells less than other things, like looks and performance.
 
coco3133 said:
My girlfriend has a HTC Evo 4G with sprint, and she gets good 4g coverage in green bay
Clearwire,sprint,VM dont update the map apparently......
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Okay, after checking Clearwire's map, travelling through Janesville, WI today I was able to confirm a 4G connection and some decent speedtest results.
 
KryptoNyte said:
Okay, after checking Clearwire's map, travelling through Janesville, WI today I was able to confirm a 4G connection and some decent speedtest results.
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so many people from wisconson on these forums. ive seen like 10 others already, which means roughly 50% of the population is posting here.
 
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