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RAZR MAXX Battery- ICS

gynormus

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Is horrible... and no heating up, no bad apps, rebooted several times. And no i haven't played with it more than usual. You may think its still too early tell, but i'd get 36 hours on LTE with gingerbread. And it shouldn't be at 60% after 7 hours on battery. Anyone else?

Edit: it actually does get hot when using it, not too bad though. And it does cool down when on idle
 
Is horrible... and no heating up, no bad apps, rebooted several times. And no i haven't played with it more than usual. You may think its still too early tell, but i'd get 36 hours on LTE with gingerbread. And it shouldn't be at 60% after 7 hours on battery. Anyone else?

Edit: it actually does get hot when using it, not too bad though. And it does cool down when on idle

yeah, i got a total of 11 hours yesterday, with moderate use. hopefully today will be different (better).
 
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Posted before about this, but either my battery has hit half life and now on the down trend, or the ICS update has shorter battery life. My guess is since the thin has almost half the battery of the Maxx, us thinners are noticing it more.

I am not too concerned myself since going to the SG3, but I would be harping on it more if not.

The actual performance of the update is very good, sans the apparent reduced battery life.
 
I'm actually ending most of my days with about 40% battery left and that is after 16 hours of use.

One thing to consider is the ICS is a different OS. I know that is a rather Duh comment, but you have to actually adjust the way you use the phone a bit too. Some of the apps you could have been using on Gingerbread may or may not be optimized for ICS now. Some of your habits with previous versions of Android may not apply at this point. Things like task killers are certainly going to be bad for your battery with ICS. Clearing out the recently used apps list is something to keep up with because some apps need to be told when to let go and head towards the operational lights. In settings, you can use Battery and Data Usage to help determine what is possibly doing some overtime on the phone as well.
 
I'm actually ending most of my days with about 40% battery left and that is after 16 hours of use.

One thing to consider is the ICS is a different OS. I know that is a rather Duh comment, but you have to actually adjust the way you use the phone a bit too. Some of the apps you could have been using on Gingerbread may or may not be optimized for ICS now. Some of your habits with previous versions of Android may not apply at this point. Things like task killers are certainly going to be bad for your battery with ICS. Clearing out the recently used apps list is something to keep up with because some apps need to be told when to let go and head towards the operational lights. In settings, you can use Battery and Data Usage to help determine what is possibly doing some overtime on the phone as well.

But you have a Maxx. I am trying to hijack the thread for thinners ;)

You will be more sensitive to less battery life if you already are almost half the battery size (thin/Maxx). I see your point though, but think the update is resulting in overall extra battery use. Added: If people are using task managers with ICS, that could make things worse.
 
But you have a Maxx. I am trying to hijack the thread for thinners ;)

You will be more sensitive to less battery life if you already are almost half the battery size (thin/Maxx). I see your point though. I think the extra performance is resulting in overall extra battery use. Added: If people are using task managers with ICS, that could make things worse.

LOL I just came from a Galaxy Nexus so adjustments for a thinner battery is always in my mind. I struggled to get 15 hours out of a day on the extended battery with that phone.

Everyone should also keep in mind that after a factory reset, which they should of done with this level of OS update, the system has to relearn the battery statistics. You wipe those away too. It may take 3 or 4 days for the battery the OS to properly represent your battery life. It may sound odd, but it is the way of the Android.

EDIT: Task Killers on ICS are a HUGE no no. They are so counter productive it isn't even funny.
 
LOL I just came from a Galaxy Nexus so adjustments for a thinner battery is always in my mind. I struggled to get 15 hours out of a day on the extended battery with that phone.

Everyone should also keep in mind that after a factory reset, which they should of done with this level of OS update, the system has to relearn the battery statistics. You wipe those away too. It may take 3 or 4 days for the battery the OS to properly represent your battery life. It may sound odd, but it is the way of the Android.

EDIT: Task Killers on ICS are a HUGE no no. They are so counter productive it isn't even funny.


for those of us not in the know with regard to task killers being counterproductive on ICS, please detail.

thanks.
 
i've read several articles over the years with regard to the pros/cons of task killers....but was looking for more info here given the specific "Task Killers on ICS are a HUGE no no" comment.

I have always read that task killers for Android were definitely in the "no" column. An app should only be killed if it misbehaves. The Android OS handles memory usage much differently than other mobile OSes. As OTD stated, it's good to swipe left and right to close apps on your Recently Used list. At least that's what I do and I don't have a problem.

As far as battery life, I have no complaints. :)
 

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[/B]for those of us not in the know with regard to task killers being counterproductive on ICS, please detail.

thanks.

In Android apps are in a few basic states of operation. Foreground which means that they are running, background which means they are in a ready state and cached. In any of these states the app can be taking up RAM, but not using the CPU. It isn't until one of these apps is using the CPU that it is using any battery. So you can have 10 apps sitting in the background taking up RAM, but doing nothing with the CPU and therefore not using any battery.

RAM is used differently in Android than on your PC. RAM can get in short supply on a PC and can cause issues if you do not have enough to run a program. With Android the RAM will be released when it is needed automatically. If an app or game needs more RAM to operate the OS will see that and release RAM from background apps for the new app to run. During normal use though the majority of your RAM will be occupied by these apps sitting in the background waiting to run. On your PC free RAM is important. In Android free RAM is wasted RAM.

Over time your phone will learn from what you do with it, jut like the battery stats. The apps you use the most will start to sit in that background ready state just waiting for you to hit the icon that will launch them. Just as above, these will be taking up RAM, but not using the CPU or the battery.

When you use a task killer it will stop these apps from running in the background. It may free up RAM for that period of time, but the OS will see free RAM and find something to fill it. This means another app or many times the same app will be relaunched to take up that wasted RAM. That app that is being launched to fill that RAM will use the CPU to start back up and therefore use more battery power. The constant killing of apps and restarting of other apps (or the same app) will use up more battery power and cause the system to work harder than if it was simply left alone. The whole process is counter productive. Not only are you wasting your battery you are also doing things that conflict with the OS's natural state of operation. You are telling the OS that an app it sees you use often isn't something you want to use often. This in turn causes the system to work harder at other times to launch an app that it has removed from your ready apps which takes a bit longer and uses more CPU cycles which uses more battery.

Not only does all of this put a tax on the system, CPU and the battery it can also force apps that are in the process of writing data to cancel in the middle. This can cause corrupted data which will obviously cause further issues later on.

Many people try to justify the use of a task killer by bringing up problem apps. The fact of the matter is that the OS has a native way of dealing with problem apps in the app manager. An app that is running incorrectly can be force closed natively, but this feature is designed so that the problem app can then be removed. Why would you want an app that isn't coded correctly on your device in the first place?
 
yesterday i went nearly 20 hours on a 90% battery...about 30% of that drop was my son and wife playing games on my phone...my wife has the same games on her phone but always has to play on mine when we go out grrrrrrrrr lol...but when i first installed ICS it had an average battery life of 13 hrs according to Bad Ass Battery App now it's at 21 hrs
 
I've found that the Kernal is eating up my battery the most after updating to ICS. Is anyone else seeing this? I did a full factory reset after upgrading and all of my apps seem to be playing nice with the new OS.
 
...... So you can have 10 apps sitting in the background taking up RAM, but doing nothing with the CPU and therefore not using any battery.

RAM is used differently in Android than on your PC. RAM can get in short supply on a PC and can cause issues if you do not have enough to run a program. With Android the RAM will be released when it is needed automatically. If an app or game needs more RAM to operate the OS will see that and release RAM from background apps for the new app to run. During normal use though the majority of your RAM will be occupied by these apps sitting in the background waiting to run. On your PC free RAM is important. In Android free RAM is wasted RAM......
I was just noticing that more RAM is used with ICS, than GB was using. This clears things up a bit. Thanks! :)
 
Case closed at least for me. Sleep time and light use, battery life and heat are about the same. If I use medium to heavy, battery and heat are worse. Bittersweet update for me and the thin. Maxx users laugh.

Added: The ICS update appears to need a patch.
 
I foud out what the problem with my battery was a few days ago and now have great battery life. 28 hours and still at 70%. After I downloaded ICS I had poor battery life. I went into settings, apps, and looked at each app that I had downloaded. Each one was apparently running because the force stop was not grey. So I did a force stop on each one. Now I get great battery life. The apps open and close properly.
 
I've found that the Kernal is eating up my battery the most after updating to ICS. Is anyone else seeing this? I did a full factory reset after upgrading and all of my apps seem to be playing nice with the new OS.

It's an app with some lower level calls, in the corp world, email apps like goode will chew up the battery so fast, you'll think you have a stock iphone.:D:D
 
My battery life has greatly improved since changing my governor from interactive to hotplug. Theres a post on xda about this in the general section of the razr forums. Also my quadrant score increased by 1000.


Edit link :

[Problem and Solution] Is your RAZR running on dual cores when using ICS? - xda-developers

/proc/cpuinfo is dynamic, so if he's doing nothing but catting a file, he's most likely going to be "given" one cpu. The beginning of that thread post is LOL.

BTW, that's not for the average user. Enabling more than you need at idle will chew through the battery.:D:D
 
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