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ohbaby said:
Question, I'm new to rooting too, but wouldn't the nandroid backup have everything backed up already? Couldn't you go to the nandroid backup and pick any app to reinstall? Why would you need titanium also to backup? Thanks in advance.

Also could you tell me how big is the nandroid backup? How many gigs it is?
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Unfortunately no. When the recovery backs up a nandroid, it does it as a image (like a CD or DVD image) inside a zip file. I have tried to mount and read the image with software like PowerISO but it wont read it. Theoretically if you could find software to read it you could, but good luck with that. I dont even think the SDK dev tools have anything to read them, as their really only for use inside the recovery program.

And the nandroid for my LG Connect is about 150Mb, so their not very big at all. I just move them to my computer anyway though, it saves space and keeps it safer than staying on my SD card.

EDIT: And Im pretty sure the nandroid only backs up whats in the system folders, not downloaded apps. They would be MUCH bigger if they did.
 
KA24DERACER said:
Unfortunately no. When the recovery backs up a nandroid, it does it as a image (like a CD or DVD image) inside a zip file. I have tried to mount and read the image with software like PowerISO but it wont read it. Theoretically if you could find software to read it you could, but good luck with that. I dont even think the SDK dev tools have anything to read them, as their really only for use inside the recovery program.

And the nandroid for my LG Connect is about 150Mb, so their not very big at all. I just move them to my computer anyway though, it saves space and keeps it safer than staying on my SD card.

EDIT: And Im pretty sure the nandroid only backs up whats in the system folders, not downloaded apps. They would be MUCH bigger if they did.
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:p.... lemme explain in an Einstein fashion.

Nandroid backups do backup user apps, however pulling them from your recovery is not easy.

Titanium backup on the other hand is an easier and more reliable way to backup your apps and even let's you restore backed up apps onto a new device.


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How to pull apps from a Nandroid backup.

Make backup

Extract the data.ext4.tar

Move data/app folder you extracted to /data/app and replace the data folder already there using a root explorer. It's a good idea to check the existing folder for apps that may be there that you want to keep before replacing the folder. Any that you want need to be moved to the data folder you extracted before you replace the /system/data/app folder.
 
I see, it's an image file, thanks guys.

I have ES File Explorer and there's a setting I could check that allows for automatic backups when uninstalling a system app. Have any of you guys used ES File Explorer? The auto backup setting?

To unbloat,......Do you need to uninstall the system apps or just delete them? Is it even possible to uninstall them being system apps?
 
ohbaby said:
I see, it's an image file, thanks guys.

I have ES File Explorer and there's a setting I could check that allows for automatic backups when uninstalling a system app. Have any of you guys used ES File Explorer? The auto backup setting?

To unbloat,......Do you need to uninstall the system apps or just delete them? Is it even possible to uninstall them being system apps?
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Unbloat = deleting or moving unwanted system apps and associated odex files.
Moving the files to a safe place on your sd card is a good way of keeping them in case you need it back.

Haven't used es file explorer.
 
So I guess the difference between deleting and uninstalling would be the odex files getting left behind?
 
But you need to make sure you do both files (apk + odex) deleting manually, right? As opposed to uninstalling which would delete everything with one click. I know I'm splitting hairs here, but I am trying to get an idea on how android operates. Just seems way too simple compared to a computer. Yet, almost as powerful.

And thanks for bearing with me and my newbie questions. Just one more, if I may,... does each apk have only one odex file associated with it? Can there be more than one? And all these files are in the same folder?


It's hard for me to get my head around this. On a computer even when you uninstall a program, it still leaves files in your directory and in your registry. And forget trying to delete everything manually instead of uninstalling. So I find it difficult to believe programs on android only have 2 files, and maybe a cache or temp folder.


The way I see it, windows might be obsolete in ten years.
 
ohbaby said:
But you need to make sure you do both files (apk + odex) deleting manually, right? As opposed to uninstalling which would delete everything with one click. I know I'm splitting hairs here, but I am trying to get an idea on how android operates. Just seems way too simple compared to a computer. Yet, almost as powerful.

And thanks for bearing with me and my newbie questions. Just one more, if I may,... does each apk have only one odex file associated with it? Can there be more than one? And all these files are in the same folder?


It's hard for me to get my head around this. On a computer even when you uninstall a program, it still leaves files in your directory and in your registry. And forget trying to delete everything manually instead of uninstalling. So I find it difficult to believe programs on android only have 2 files, and maybe a cache or temp folder.
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Lol, yeah... android is Linux based which helps with simplicity sometimes.

The only reason to leave an odex file is if you plan on putting the apk back.
There really is no difference between deleting and uninstall when it comes to bloatware. Just two files really, just clear data or find the associated app/data folder and delete it manually.
 
Get rom toolbox pro and rom manager. These two are essential for rooted users.

From there do whatever.
 
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