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Will the Apple/Samsung ruling affect the Galaxy S3?

sergey

Android Enthusiast
I breezed through some blogs and despite the ruling affecting several of Samsung phones, I didn't see the S3 mentioned specifically? Does anybody know if this will affect our phones, i.e. a new "update" that removes certain functions or a ban on sales of the S3?

I'm not a fan of rooting, but I may have to start reading up on this...
 
I can answer this question. The Galaxy S3 was not included in the lawsuit that is in the news. Apple tried to amend the complaint to include the GS3 but the court would not allow it. If there is to be a case involving the GS3, it will have to be a separate lawsuit.

It is possible that further lawsuits could result in a court issuing and injuction banning sales of the GS3, but I doubt it. Apple is really after money. They want licensing fees related to the patents that they say are being violated. The phones and other devices that were the subject of the lawsuit in the media are at the end of their useful lives. Apple's only recourse is money for those devices.
 
It just effected Samsung's stock price, it lost $12 Billion just today, the market does not like when a corporation loses a one plus Billion dollar law suit, Samsung is getting hammered as we speak.
 
I can answer this question. The Galaxy S3 was not included in the lawsuit that is in the news. Apple tried to amend the complaint to include the GS3 but the court would not allow it. If there is to be a case involving the GS3, it will have to be a separate lawsuit.

It is possible that further lawsuits could result in a court issuing and injuction banning sales of the GS3, but I doubt it. Apple is really after money. They want licensing fees related to the patents that they say are being violated. The phones and other devices that were the subject of the lawsuit in the media are at the end of their useful lives. Apple's only recourse is money for those devices.

Apple is supposed to issue a list to the court today on what devices it intends to ask for an injunction against. Some speculate that they will also try add the S3 even though that was not included in the trial. We will have to see if Koh agrees and/or Samsung can get an appeals court to stay any injunction and perhaps also rule on the validity of the various "design-type" patents.
 
Even if they lose money and the stock prices decrease, we're talking about a big corporation that doesn't only rely on computer technology. Samsung has roots in many fields, unlike Apple. After a early period of recession, it's gonna cover up the loss pretty quick. Anyway, as of now, the S3 is not affected.
 
Apple is supposed to issue a list to the court today on what devices it intends to ask for an injunction against. Some speculate that they will also try add the S3 even though that was not included in the trial. We will have to see if Koh agrees and/or Samsung can get an appeals court to stay any injunction and perhaps also rule on the validity of the various "design-type" patents.

I know this was a jury trial and perhaps the Appellate Cts can reverse the far reach of the decision. I think a trier of fact has to consider a natural progression of products that require human human movement, appendages and brains. I don't see any other way the technology could have gone to stretch a screen than to unpinch or double tap. Would triple tapping be a different patent, what about using your elbows or your tongue. Maybe voice stretching or eye crossing. I think it's getting ridiculous that generic movements that are inevitable to be part of a product line can be patentable.

Had this discussion with a guy yesterday. He brought up the sentence, "It's the best of times, it's the worst of times" and how that is copyrightable. But, no one is destined to create that sentence that's attributed to Dickens. Yet, many of us have thought about stretching a piece of paper or a screen, even if it were nonesense day dreaming. How many daydreams were there with "It's the best of times, it's the worst of times" before Dickens coined the phrase. Actually, taken by itself without the rest of The Tale Of Two Cities, maybe that sentence alone cannot be copyrighted. I don't know know, I'm not a lawyer, It's certainly close to, "There are good times and bad times," which millions of people have said.

There aren't endless combinations for human finger movements to allow us tothink that the guy who invented it, should own it. However, the mechanics, electronics of the screen and software that accepts that movement, maybe that should be patentable but only if everything is the same. Change how it works or the software and that should require a new patent or no patent. I just don't like it.
 
Might affect the time it takes to drop in price further but shouldn't affect the phone or updates itself as it wasn't named in law suit.
 
It just effected Samsung's stock price, it lost $12 Billion just today, the market does not like when a corporation loses a one plus Billion dollar law suit, Samsung is getting hammered as we speak.
What's their stock symbol? SSNLF?
 
Samsung brings in 3-4 billion each quarter so 1 Bil is just a dent to them and they won't have to pay out that one billion for at least several most years as they will drag this out in court forever. most likely a good portion of that 1 billion will be overturned anyway in appeals courts (Very typical). Stock prices go up and down.

12 billion is not very much for a company worth hundreds of billions.
 
I know this was a jury trial and perhaps the Appellate Cts can reverse the far reach of the decision. I think a trier of fact has to consider a natural progression of products that require human human movement, appendages and brains. I don't see any other way the technology could have gone to stretch a screen than to unpinch or double tap. Would triple tapping be a different patent, what about using your elbows or your tongue. Maybe voice stretching or eye crossing. I think it's getting ridiculous that generic movements that are inevitable to be part of a product line can be patentable.

Had this discussion with a guy yesterday. He brought up the sentence, "It's the best of times, it's the worst of times" and how that is copyrightable. But, no one is destined to create that sentence that's attributed to Dickens. Yet, many of us have thought about stretching a piece of paper or a screen, even if it were nonesense day dreaming. How many daydreams were there with "It's the best of times, it's the worst of times" before Dickens coined the phrase. Actually, taken by itself without the rest of The Tale Of Two Cities, maybe that sentence alone cannot be copyrighted. I don't know know, I'm not a lawyer, It's certainly close to, "There are good times and bad times," which millions of people have said.

There aren't endless combinations for human finger movements to allow us tothink that the guy who invented it, should own it. However, the mechanics, electronics of the screen and software that accepts that movement, maybe that should be patentable but only if everything is the same. Change how it works or the software and that should require a new patent or no patent. I just don't like it.

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Here's the list of potentially affected phones:
Apple files to have 8 Samsung phones banned in the US, including most of the Galaxy S2 line

...the S3 is not included. Are any of these still being sold?

Sprint just had a 2 for 1 deal on the GS2. I guess they were trying to clear inventory and may have done it just in the nick of time.

I think AT&T still has the GS2 as an option, but most of the GS2s have become bargain bin phones. People are now interested in the HOX, GS3, etc.
 
kkeep an eye on this
Groklaw - Digging for Truth

btw this will probably get thrown out because the jurors were advised not to read their instruction and were given direction that was against their instruction.
naughty, i wonder if the forman was an insider
 
Apple is supposed to issue a list to the court today on what devices it intends to ask for an injunction against. Some speculate that they will also try add the S3 even though that was not included in the trial. We will have to see if Koh agrees and/or Samsung can get an appeals court to stay any injunction and perhaps also rule on the validity of the various "design-type" patents.

The judge specifically did not allow complaint to be amended to include the S3. It is extremely unlikely that the same judge would have allowed an injunction on that phone. What would the basis be for the injunction? The lawsuit had nothing to do with the S3. ;)

Apple asked for an injunction against sales of the following phones in the US:

- Galaxy S 4G
- Galaxy S2 (AT&T)
- Galaxy S2 (Skyrocket)
- Galaxy S2 (T-Mobile)
- Galaxy S2 Epic 4G
- Galaxy S Showcase
- Droid Charge
- Galaxy Prevail
 
I know this was a jury trial and perhaps the Appellate Cts can reverse the far reach of the decision. I think a trier of fact has to consider a natural progression of products that require human human movement, appendages and brains. I don't see any other way the technology could have gone to stretch a screen than to unpinch or double tap. Would triple tapping be a different patent, what about using your elbows or your tongue. Maybe voice stretching or eye crossing. I think it's getting ridiculous that generic movements that are inevitable to be part of a product line can be patentable.

Had this discussion with a guy yesterday. He brought up the sentence, "It's the best of times, it's the worst of times" and how that is copyrightable. But, no one is destined to create that sentence that's attributed to Dickens. Yet, many of us have thought about stretching a piece of paper or a screen, even if it were nonesense day dreaming. How many daydreams were there with "It's the best of times, it's the worst of times" before Dickens coined the phrase. Actually, taken by itself without the rest of The Tale Of Two Cities, maybe that sentence alone cannot be copyrighted. I don't know know, I'm not a lawyer, It's certainly close to, "There are good times and bad times," which millions of people have said.

There aren't endless combinations for human finger movements to allow us tothink that the guy who invented it, should own it. However, the mechanics, electronics of the screen and software that accepts that movement, maybe that should be patentable but only if everything is the same. Change how it works or the software and that should require a new patent or no patent. I just don't like it.

Could not agree more.

This should have been enough to dismiss the whole case from the beginning.
 
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just thought id share this picture, figured those around here would appreciate...
 

I live in a pretty rural area here in NY and just wanted to share this inside scoop.

On my way home yesterday, I saw the 1st lawsuit installment getting ready to be sent as Apple shareholders stood nearby watching in glee.


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