iPhone 5 live launch

[Bob Maxey]

someone in another thread (can't find it now) posted a link to a macforums thread where people were discussing the keynote and the ip5. there sure was a lot of hate (for android and alternative systems) over there; little objectivity. anyway, i quickly got cold and scared there so i hightailed it back here

Yup. we showed you, didn't we? I say keep away from the other forums. We do not want you because you are one of those hillbilly Andrody users. No place for your kind on a real form where a REAL phone is discussed.

Smiley

 

[EarlyMon]

Yup. we showed you, didn't we? I say keep away from the other forums. We do not want you because you are one of those hillbilly Andrody users. No place for your kind on a real form where a REAL phone is discussed.

Smiley

Feeding the hate, Bob, you're just feeding the hate.

To what end?

 

[Bob Maxey]

Feeding the hate, Bob, you're just feeding the hate.

To what end?

Because my Masters in Sector A-6 demand that I go forth and multiply the legions of Applites that will soon take over. I was recently moved from sector A-5.

I have no choice because I am fed my instructions directly to my new Retina Eyes and if I do not do what I am told, my pay--in the form of iTunes gift cards is automatically reduced and I'll never be able to afford a new iPhone 5s.

I thought the row of smileys suggested I was not being serious.

Smiley

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[EarlyMon]

I got the intent.

 

[wyndslash]

Yup. we showed you, didn't we? I say keep away from the other forums. We do not want you because you are one of those hillbilly Andrody users. No place for your kind on a real form where a REAL phone is discussed.

Smiley

Lol

 

[Bob Maxey]

I got the intent.

Thought you might, but one never knows what irks people. I think I have you pinned down by now, Early. I hate using smileys and such. Then again, they often stop battles and destruction and warnings and banishment. I just started using them, just in case.

BTW . . . I still respect Larry Ellison. No smiley and no apology.

Not sure what the little fellow wearing the sombrero is all about and I just clicked the "more" link anf I found this car so I'll use it. :car:

 

[Bob Maxey]

Agreed... That is the nature of these forums though.. Of course for the most part we are biased. But this is one of the best... If not only forum site where it's not out if control one sided. There is actually a good amount of contrast here, and if it does get to be one sided a mod comes in to tie up the loose ends.... I love that about this place.

I think being biased on a product/brand specific forum is allowed, right? I post Apple comments because I love Apple products. Not every one of them, but most. I also like the company and I had tremendous respect for Steve and the Woz.

But I know people gathered here are Android people.

 

[3vodroid]

I think being biased on a product/brand specific forum is allowed, right? I post Apple comments because I love Apple products. Not every one of them, but most. I also like the company and I had tremendous respect for Steve and the Woz.

But I know people gathered here are Android people.

Yes definitely. That's what makes this forum fun. Let's face it as into these things as we are whether it be team ios or team android were all the minority here. The majority could care less about in depth details. Let alone spend part of their day discussing it on a forum.

 

[Petrah]

Bob, I'm a woman therefor, I am never ever wrong.

+1

 

[EarlyMon]

BTW . . . I still respect Larry Ellison. No smiley and no apology.

Anyone insisting that we need mandatory national identification that must be managed for us by his products and that therefore his company ought be declared a protected resource is suffering from megalomania. No thank you and no respect from me.

 

[A.Nonymous]

ATT said today that the iPhone 5 has been it's top selling phone so far. Honestly, I'm not terribly surprised. It is mind boggling though. Apple announces a product. It's panned by both critics and fans alike. Then people line up to buy it in droves. I really think Apple is just coasting at this point, but they're coasting at like 100mph.

 

[nizmoz]

ATT said today that the iPhone 5 has been it's top selling phone so far. Honestly, I'm not terribly surprised. It is mind boggling though. Apple announces a product. It's panned by both critics and fans alike. Then people line up to buy it in droves. I really think Apple is just coasting at this point, but they're coasting at like 100mph.

Yep. They are doing great and make a high quality, reliable, phone. Myself I am getting one after having several android phones including the s3.

 

[dan330]

if you think about current iphone users..

many that had the iphone 4.. did not see enough to move to 4S... they been waiting a long time for a good upgrade... and they aint going to android.
this is a big bump for them!

the ones that moved for 4 to 4S .. they upgrade because they want the newest thing from apple.

so... that means a huge portion of current iphone users making the move to 5.
not that the iphone user base is getting any bigger..

but I think this kind of move (no innovation) by apple is starting to wear thin on a lot of the apple fan base. some may open their eyes and start looking.. smelling the BS apple has them standing in.

if the next years iphone 5S does not innovate. then i think apple base will start to bleed. great opportunity for the 3rd OS to get some face time. Windows might have a chance. because apple fans, will resist trying out android.

 

[A.Nonymous]

It seemed just a couple of years ago that every new iPhone had one or two compelling features that were different from everything else on the market and ahead of what Android was offering. The last two just feel like they're playing catch up and adding stuff that is already out there.

 

[nizmoz]

It seemed just a couple of years ago that every new iPhone had one or two compelling features that were different from everything else on the market and ahead of what Android was offering. The last two just feel like they're playing catch up and adding stuff that is already out there.

They have a lot of features that android phones do not have which I don't have time to post right now. Catching up is too funny and not true.

 

[A.Nonymous]

They have a lot of features that android phones do not have which I don't have time to post right now. Catching up is too funny and not true.

I'm interested in your list when you have the time to post it.

 

[dan330]

They have a lot of features that android phones do not have which I don't have time to post right now. Catching up is too funny and not true.

ok.. i have to know... please give list.

I do know of one thing that iphone has.. i want. it is more software related.

GROUP SMS!!! how it can text to several people and they can have a conversation together.. reply once and all in the conversation get the reply...

what else????

 

[ApparitionXVII]

They have a lot of features that android phones do not have which I don't have time to post right now. Catching up is too funny and not true.

Name some then... in my experience I can just do more with an Android that I can with an iPhone.

Considering that the major features that iphone 5 now have include: LTE and 4" screen... not exactly mindblowing, unless you are currently on an iphone.

 

[BigPeanutHead]

ATT said today that the iPhone 5 has been it's top selling phone so far. Honestly, I'm not terribly surprised. It is mind boggling though. Apple announces a product. It's panned by both critics and fans alike. Then people line up to buy it in droves. I really think Apple is just coasting at this point, but they're coasting at like 100mph.

It is mind boggling but It's also a combination of extreme intense loyalty to the company. The likes of which is often scary in it's devotion. That and word of mouth. Most people have a good time using the iphone (even if its basic stuff they do on it) and they pass this good time by mouth onto the next person. Who then thinks to get one.

Using the iphone is a very fun good experience for the average user. It does everything they need. It does that and then some, is smooth, fast rarely crashes or freezes or lags (in my experience of owning four of them) and requires no technical knowledge to get things done.

This appeals to people immensely and even if the Galaxy S3 or any other phone is a proven superior product technically. Most iphone users don't care about that. The iphone users who do care about technical specs simply bury their head in the ground and will actually convince themselves an argument they have opposing other handsets, or operating systems is valid, even if it isn't.

It can be very hurtful to realise something you have been trying to convince yourself is true or correct for a long time is actually untrue or incorrect. It is in effect like religion imo.

Apple have connected with people in a unique way i think. Steve Jobs was a big part of that. Fans of his see it as almost disrespectful to leave for another product. Those who aren't fans simply see Android (probably Galaxy S3 im referring to here) users as uncool geeks with giant phones.

It's silly but very true. I texted two friends today, telling them of my choice to move away from apple after the iphone 5 failed to impress me. One called me a traitor (they were not being jokey) the other hasn't texted back and this was over eight hours ago, i actually feel bad for choosing another product other than apple. Feeling guilty for a phone choice! It's silly really!

For the more hardcore fans It is almost a cult. It's only once you step away you see it. For the older lot it's not so bad, not so intense. But some of the young school kids take this kind of thing very serious. It reminds me of the Nintendo and Sega wars of the snes and megadrive era when I was at school. People were getting into fights over it!

 

[A.Nonymous]

I'm an HTC fanboy though. I love HTC phones. I love Sense. I think HTC makes great phones. I bought the Rezound. I turned it back in after just a week and ate a re-stocking fee. The fanboy in me made me go out and buy an aftermarket Rezound. Again, I hated it so much I sold it after a week. My fanboyism wasn't enough to make me use a phone that just didn't have anything more than the previous phone I was using.

 

[BigPeanutHead]

My fanboyism wasn't enough to make me use a phone that just didn't have anything more than the previous phone I was using.

Exactly because your levels of Fanboyism were the same as mine, extremely passionate but normal. Apple Fanboyism is of a much more intense religion like nature. I am still an apple fan I love my ipad2, I like the company, I liked Jobs however I still have some sanity and that sanity showed me this iphone 5 is an inferior product to what I was expecting in my mind, so like any normal person in that situation would do, I went for something better.

I was expecting at least a Galaxy S3 sized screen for one, this would have kept iphone in my eyes at least on par with current smart phones. (this is a personal view screen size is a lot for me) I was expecting to find the leaked pictures were to draw us away from the scent and to see an all new looking iphone5 ready to lead the way with innovation. Like 1st one did. Much more advanced "Siri 2". Which worked in a similar fashion to Google Now. Acted off it's own back with prompts etc. Just real innovations.

Android and the S3 are doing this now...so I'd be an actual loon to get the iphone 5 then continue to try and convince myself I'm happy with it after knowing what I want but as I said, our fanboyism mine and yours is of the normal type.

The Apple die hards seriously wouldnt care how good the iphone5 is.
I thought I was amongst them to be honest but i obviously wasn't as I jumped ship pretty much instantly after the keynote lol. Those die hards see it as more than a smartphone, it's a social extension. You get out an iphone in a club or bar you look cool. The NEWEST one?! My god even cooler. You whip out a big old Galaxy S3 or Note, you're a geek. Trust me the Apple fanboyism is of a level no over phone can claim. Total die hards.

 

[Bnice]

They have a lot of features that android phones do not have which I don't have time to post right now. Catching up is too funny and not true.

Please do tell, I'm interested in what the iphone has that Android do not..

 

[Skyroket]

i'm interested in ipod touch 5g

 

[nizmoz]

1) Retina Display with built in touch sensors (not a separate layer which is less sensitive)
2) 4G LTE on one chip, not a separate chip. Less battery consumption, and the only phone in the world that has this.
3) An Actual 16:9 display
4) Up to 8 hours continuous talk time, 8 hours constant LTE usage for data. My S3 would be lucky to get 3 hours of this type of usage. Even my Razr MAXX.
5) 3.95 oz weight (lightest phone)
6) Fastest processor in tests blows the S3 Quad Core out of the water and probably all phones.
iPhone5,2 - Geekbench Browser

The results show an iPhone5,2 device running iOS 6 with a Dual-Core 1.02GHz ARMv7 processor and 1GB of RAM.

The total Geekbench 2 score comes in at 1601. Poole notes that the average score for the iPhone 4S is 629 and the average score for the iPad 3 is 766. A comparison chart of previous iOS devices can be viewed at Geekbench. The numbers seem to validate Apple's claim that the A6 processor is twice as fast as the A5 and any previous iOS device. This one score also places the iPhone 5 ahead of the average scores of all Android phones on Geekbench. The full Geekbench results further breakdown processor, memory and bandwidth performance.

Thats what I call great engineering on Apples part.

7) Full sRGB support
8) Alum/Glass and the best build quality of any phone out there.
9) Dual band 802.11n 150meg
10) Sapphire Crystal on camera lens for better durability
11) fastest capture speed of any phone for camera
12) 720p HD front facing camera
13) A6 post processing of photos
14) Pana pictures
15) Better Earphones (one of a kind)
16) Three microphones
17) 5 magnet speakers
18) 2-way noice cancelling earpiece
19) Wideband/HD Audio
20) Reversible dock connector

I am sure there are more but that is enough for now. This is a list of what it has that no other phone has.

 

[A.Nonymous]

1) Retina Display with built in touch sensors (not a separate layer which is less sensitive)
2) 4G LTE on one chip, not a separate chip. Less battery consumption, and the only phone in the world that has this.
3) An Actual 16:9 display
4) Up to 8 hours continuous talk time, 8 hours constant LTE usage for data. My S3 would be lucky to get 3 hours of this type of usage. Even my Razr MAXX.
5) 3.95 oz weight (lightest phone)
6) Fastest processor in tests blows the S3 Quad Core out of the water and probably all phones.
iPhone5,2 - Geekbench Browser

1. There are Android phones that have a display just as good or better. I am interested in knowing what advantage the built in touch sensors offer..

2. I've not seen real-world battery consumption numbers from this phone which isn't surprising since it's not out yet. I've said before that, if true, this is impressive.

3. Advantage is what? Are there no other phones on the market that offer this? I don't know.

4. See #2

5. Sony Xperia SX is only 3.35 oz.

6. Again, I want to see real-world tests, not benchmarks.

7) Full sRGB support
8) Alum/Glass and the best build quality of any phone out there.
9) Dual band 802.11n 150meg
10) Sapphire Crystal on camera lens for better durability
11) fastest capture speed of any phone for camera
12) 720p HD front facing camera
13) A6 post processing of photos
14) Pana pictures
15) Better Earphones (one of a kind)
16) Three microphones
17) 5 magnet speakers
18) 2-way noice cancelling earpiece
19) Wideband/HD Audio
20) Reversible dock connector

I am sure there are more but that is enough for now. This is a list of what it has that no other phone has.

7. I have no idea what sRGB is and I'm kind of a nerd. I honestly have no clue what, if any, advantage this is or whether any other phone has it.

8. Best build quality? You base this on objective test?

9. I have no idea if any other phone has this. You'd need a dual band wifi point to use it.

10. Umm, no clue how you measure "more durability."

11. Based on what objective tests?

12. The HTC One X has a 720p front camera. So does the Nexus 7 for that matter, but it's not a phone so technically we won't count it.

13. Again, means what to the average user?

14. Natively supported in several Android phones already. App support for it in Android as well as iOS. Hardly anything new.

15. Better earphones means what? Technically not an iPhone feature.

16. Most phones have at least two mics. I have no idea if there is a Android phone out there that has 3. Is a 3rd mike really a killer feature that people will notice though?

17. 5 speakers offers what advantage? Or are we just talking about a different way to do the same thing?

18. No clue what this is.

19. No clue what this is.

20. A proprietary adapter is not a killer feature. Heck, my Android phone has a different adapter than the iPhone. Does that make it a better or worse phone? Samsung uses proprietary adapters. Does that make them better phones? I don't get this one.