***Official HTC Incredible Thread***

[viperboy]

One of the things I find humor in is that verizons big move at ctia was skype but its another networks EVO that has a front facing camera

yeah, how many of the new Verizon phones coming out have that? If they are so proud of it, would you make some cool hardware that can use it's full abilities?

We never intended to launch Skype now with the purpose of video chat.

Now, when we start getting our 4G handsets next year, that might be something to look for

 

[Muzic]

yeah, how many of the new Verizon phones coming out have that? If they are so proud of it, would you make some cool hardware that can use it's full abilities?

The saygus vphone might be taking advantage of skype. it has a front facing cam. or maybe verizon's putting a front facing cam and that's why it's taking so long

 

[pragmatous]

Ya you can tether. There's an app at least for the moto droid which using the same OS. I wouldn't tether all the time though. maybe for desperate times.

will tethering available on android? like an app? i'd rather not root, but if it's illegal it's okay

 

[singer82]

Yeah, that's what I thought. But I keep hearing people mention a 5GB cap and saying it's not really "unlimited". Not sure what to believe.

I have the mobile hotspot by verizon. Whats unlimited is when you go to a place with wifi (starbucks, panera, etc) or from somesones open network, that wifi is unlimited. But when you want to connect to the internet without mifi (connected with WWAN, dont know what that is but it connects me to the internet automatically) its a 5mb limit. you have to pay extra if you go over 5mb

 

[viperboy]

Wasn't the big thing about how fast they were going to bring out 4G? I thought they talked about that there too.

Also, it''s possible the Incredible will too. This could be bad though. I can easily see some people driving with their phone in their hand on the steering wheel trying to have a video call. Some people are stupid.

This I'm not 100% sure on, but I don't believe there is a front-facing camera on the Incredible.

If there is, sorry, I used to remember cool stuff like this til I started working on phones 8+ hours a day and I have to remember what goofy features other phones have so that people will buy them lol

 

[dmb_droid41]

Thank you viperboy for clearing that up. No tethering here, just wanted to make sure on the phone itself it was unlimited. Even though I doubt I will go anywhere near that.

 

[viperboy]

i have the mobile hotspot by verizon. Whats unlimited is when you go to a place with wifi (starbucks, panera, etc) or from somesones open network, that wifi is unlimited. But when you want to connect to the internet without mifi (connected with wwan, dont know what that is but it connects me to the internet automatically) its a 5mb limit. You have to pay extra if you go over 5mb

5gb*

 

[JMKosmo]

I gotta deal with this stuff all day... People threatening to beat me up cause I can't just give them a free phone when they dropped theirs in the toilet, people getting ticked off about the smallest stuff when I am trying to help them, the "I'M GOING TO AT&T!!" crap all day (Those aren't magic words, by the way).

Alot of people on here are complaing and begging for the phone to launch. There is also alot of BS info out there. It's just annoying. A little bit of knowledge is dangerous and go forbid anyone say one rumor around this place about this phone and everyone starts to believe it.

I just wanted to correct some things and clear them up.



No problem. Just had alot of stuff to say.

WOW! Now that I read that, I see why would be fed up. That stuff really happens? Jeez! I know what it's like to have people up your ass all day -- I am a public school teacher. Last week they published my name and salary in the local newspaper.

 

[SamMax]

Viperboy....no need to correct or answer everyones post.

 

[viperboy]

WOW! Now that I read that, I see why would be fed up. That stuff really happens? Jeez! I know what it's like to have people up your ass all day -- I am a public school teacher. Last week they published my name and salary in the local newspaper.

Oh wow, that would just slightly annoy me.

Viperboy....no need to correct or answer everyones post.

I was reading from where I left off and responded to things as I went along. I felt some things needed to be addressed.

I mean, I can be doing other things. If my presence here bothers you, I can make sure to not post what I know about the phones and things if you would prefer.

 

[mr.incredible]

Viperboy.... i dont even care that your post took up half a page. In the words of Chris Farley...."That...was...AWESOME!!!"

 

[Sisaacs]

okay nontech type person here. Viperboy said oled screen and I have heard amoled are they one and the same or different?

 

[zobie02]

I have been following this thread since before it was called the "incredible." I watched the rise of Nash and the fall of news radio. I checked the thread with every twist and turn. I contributed a photoshop comparison on the nexus and incredible... So much passion, so much folly, so much time with silence from verizon.

Over the weekend I hit my wall. No more waiting. This is how it went down:
I I walk into best buy. They have tons of ipads. I ask about the return policy. They say 14 days. I buy it just to check it out. I think... I wonder if I can get some info out of verizon since it is right next to best buy. I walk in with my iPad in hand. I talk to the dude that runs the shop, he knows nothing about the incredible or nexus one release dates. He is a cool guy, he would tell me if he knew something.

I walk over to the palm section before leaving since they have the free wifi hotspots for the life of the phone special going on. The sales woman convinces me to try it out. She says she will pay my restocking fee herself if I don't like the phone. She puts it in writing. I get 30 days to tryout the pre with free wifi hotspots for my new iPad. What a sweet deal. Now my iPad had 3G and gps via the phone... For free.

So here I am, at what could be the final goodbye to this fine group... If there is no incredible in 28 days... I am sticking with the palm pre and free hotspots for my iPad. The setup works amazingly. If there is no incredible by the end of april,it is time to get something else. By the beginning of 2011 there will be more phones that will destroy the incredible than you can count on two hands. Buying now and getting free wifi is a great deal until the really great phones with front facing cameras, and dual core CPUs are the norm. The longer it takes to release the incredible the less desirable it becomes.

I still hope for an April release but if it does not come I have a solid phone and a quicker upgrade path with a 40$ savings every month.

By the way, the pre plus has a brilliant os, but the hardware is just ok. The os, is truly fantastic though... Makes it a fun phone to have.

Oh well, good luck all. Hope we have something good in a few weeks!

There shouldn't be a restocking fee on the phone at Best Buy anyway.

 

[singer82]

WOW! Now that I read that, I see why would be fed up. That stuff really happens? Jeez! I know what it's like to have people up your ass all day -- I am a public school teacher. Last week they published my name and salary in the local newspaper.

I hear ya viper. People are freakin crazzzzzyyyy! I've been a waitress for 7 years now and you wouldnt believe how some people are. If anyones seen that b**ch lady in "Waiting" yeah....they exist!

On topic- I hope the new info is correct and we finally get this phone this month. If not, off I go to Sprint

 

[zobie02]

possibly one of Verizon's mini notebooks- price would be about right I think

The netbooks usually show up under the manufactures name. Like Gateway or HP, etc.

 

[dm33]

You have unlimited usage from your phone. If you wanna browse from your phone all day and all night, go ahead. But that's all it is for. If you are using it for tethering 1.) you shouldn't be, that's why you pay extra for tethering and 2.) yes, we can tell if you are tethering (hell, I can look at your account and tell).

Now, if you are constantly going over 5gb from legitimate usage, I don't know what they would do, I would doubt they would do anything but if they would, they're likely to just use PFO on you (Packet Flow Optimization) and just slow you down. Again, I doubt they would even do that.

And EXACTLY how can they tell if you are tethering? Please be technical. I'm in the industry and I don't know of a way that Verizon could tell. Data flowing through the phone to a tethered PC looks pretty much like data consumed by the phone. Hard to imagine what would be a reliable tipoff. You can make random guesses, based on things like usage, or maybe content (flash), but for web pages, images, video, most apps... no difference.

 

[zobie02]

3/29/10 is only last week...it could have been put into the system on that date and found today...no need to jump to conclusions and say its fake...what do you have to base that assumption off of...a date thats only a week old?? do you work for best buy??...you have a weak argument

Yes, no reason to say it's fake. That definitely looks legit. It's the inventory system screen. The date is usually the date it is entered into the system as some people have said.

 

[kshel]

Oh wow, that would just slightly annoy me.



I was reading from where I left off and responded to things as I went along. I felt some things needed to be addressed.

I mean, I can be doing other things. If my presence here bothers you, I can make sure to not post what I know about the phones and things if you would prefer.

Does this guy remind anyone of the ultra tech geek IT guy in the Saturday Night Live bits from a few years ago? Everyone annoys this guy with their lack of knowledge and it obviously frustrates him to respond to anything. Little advice dude, if you can't handle people, get out of retail. One other thing, we received tons of news before you came around back at the beginning and we'll learn more when you're gone. Lose the attitude.

 

[bbeelzebub]

I got tired of waiting and went into the Verizon Wireless Store closest to me. Just one look and feel of the Palm Pre and well... my patience has been restored. No thanks. While WebOS looks nice, the rest of the phone sucked donkey balls.

Oh HTC Incredible. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways....

 

[titoafric]

And EXACTLY how can they tell if you are tethering? Please be technical. I'm in the industry and I don't know of a way that Verizon could tell. Data flowing through the phone to a tethered PC looks pretty much like data consumed by the phone. Hard to imagine what would be a reliable tipoff. You can make random guesses, based on things like usage, or maybe content (flash), but for web pages, images, video, most apps... no difference.

Possibly via the HTTP User-Agent header sent by the browser.. which is easily manipulated.

 

[zobie02]

I used to work at best buy for 3+years. Looks like a pretty legit shot of their inventory screen. "RSS" I believe it was called. Who knows since then I worked for Circuit City as well so I mix the two sometimes.

I will second that BBY = Best BuY

and yes they use it for almost everything

Yes its called RSS at Best Buy, at Circuit City it was screen 14 for inventory in the DPS system.

Yes they also use BBY for everything, it's also their stock ticker symbol.

 

[woodraskam]

does this guy remind anyone of the ultra tech geek it guy in the saturday night live bits from a few years ago? Everyone annoys this guy with their lack of knowledge and it obviously frustrates him to respond to anything. Little advice dude, if you can't handle people, get out of retail. One other thing, we received tons of news before you came around back at the beginning and we'll learn more when you're gone. Lose the attitude.

move!

 

[woodraskam]

WOW! Now that I read that, I see why would be fed up. That stuff really happens? Jeez! I know what it's like to have people up your ass all day -- I am a public school teacher. Last week they published my name and salary in the local newspaper.

Not to try to flame or anything, but any government employee's salary is public information. You should've known this going in.

 

[misterdoop]

I get what ViperBoy is saying, that we shouldn't know about this phone. But the fact is: we do. The first video we ever saw of this thing had a huge honking Verizon intro movie on it, and that was months ago. HTC's ROMs are coded with identifying numbers. Why wouldn't Verizon take measures into preventing leaks like that unless they really thought they could build some buzz around the phone? Why hand the phone to people who would show it off with no punishment? Every company — not just Verizon — has to have something in place to do damage control on information leaks. And a way to do triage when a planned leaked backfires.

I just find it annoying that someone on Verizon's marketing team tweets about a phone by name and can't say anything about a release date. A month. A season. Hell, I'd settle for H1 of 2010 at this point. I just don't understand how releasing that sort of information (even if/when it changes) hurts anyone's interest in the phone, even if they are more interested in selling Devours or Droids. This forum is proof the demand is high for a next-gen Android phone with HTC Sense.

There's just a lot of attitude I get from Verizon employees. "We release new phones all the time," some manager said to me, all pissy-like. Fine, I get it, dealing with ticked off customers sucks, and everyone and their grandma has something they printed off something from PhoneScoop. That doesn't mean you get to treat customers like garbage.

 

[NFLWiDEOUT86]

You do need to root your phone in order to do that. And no, you're not supposed to for numerous reasons. Doesn't mean that people don't do it though.



You have unlimited usage from your phone. If you wanna browse from your phone all day and all night, go ahead. But that's all it is for. If you are using it for tethering 1.) you shouldn't be, that's why you pay extra for tethering and 2.) yes, we can tell if you are tethering (hell, I can look at your account and tell).

Now, if you are constantly going over 5gb from legitimate usage, I don't know what they would do, I would doubt they would do anything but if they would, they're likely to just use PFO on you (Packet Flow Optimization) and just slow you down. Again, I doubt they would even do that.

I hit 154 GB this month!