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Metro pcs BYOD

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Fuzzy13 said:
So if this is the case, the same plan that costs you 70 from t mobile will cost you 60 from metro which is still t mobile? Or 60 and 50. Hmmmm.

What is the need for t mobile if that's the case when everyone can just go to the metro side and pay less? But the phone from t mobile unlocked and get a metro plan. That's wonky. Lol

Makes no sense. Going to be interesting to see how this all plays out.
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I think your over complicating it.

Name and brand recognition will probably play a part, that and actual metro markets are not as prevalent.

You do have a point though if metro will offer the same exact service but at $60 those who notice and have a metro market may move over to them from tmo.
I might even be tempted to go to the $50 metro plan, just for the unlimited minutes.

But on the other hand if straight talk is going to get Tmo LTE that would be the better solution, $45 unlimited everything :D
 
<pssssst. come down here and I'll tell you how they're gonna do it.> ;)

It's actually very simple. So simple I'm surprised no one's figured it out.

Everbodies gettin' all jukey on the phone and plans and bands and And FREEKIN WHEE!

Seems we're all stuck in this same rut, Well it's gonna be the same, so how can it be different?

[It's actually kind of funny. We've been watching the moving shells and not looking at the obvious. *Obviously* as some have mentioned, it's GOT to be different, but how?] Easy peasy.

Won't matter what phone ya got where and have on who.

They are each going to have their own digital wizards behind the curtains that KNOW *You* are on What network. Who you pay your Drachma to each month. THAT'S what will really matter. The digitial wizards will look at your T-Mo phone, with your Metro Or T-mo sim and that won't matter cause the wizard KNOWS you're say with Metro (for the sake of discussion) That's where this magical word REFARMING comes in. They'll just put in the appropriate digital "restrictor plate" (Lord, I Hate It when a Nascar reference works) and say restrict Metro's SPEEDS to oh, say, 55% of T-Mos speed in the same area. That way, T-Mo customers gets a bigger whanger to wave around for their extree money and we at Metro get marginally faster but hopefully more robustly stable signals.

There. Done. T-Mo gets what they pay for and so do we. And we get to use any phone from either company. EXACTLY what they said they were going to do.

Next case? :D

Bruce in Ocala, FL
 
wow some of the best news! still waiting to get a new phone so perfect timing :)

noow... 1 question maybe you guys have an idea how it might work..

i got one person in my account (family plan)

i pay $75 (for both) i get 200MB LTE a month (dont care i use Wifi mostly)

soo, sayy i go find a BYOD able phone, would all this merger and BYOD stuff affect my monthly plan?

my guess is that regardless of what happens i get grandfather in and maybe pay a fee to get one of the GSM connected to metro...
 
Fuzzy13 said:
So if this is the case, the same plan that costs you 70 from t mobile will cost you 60 from metro which is still t mobile? Or 60 and 50. Hmmmm.

What is the need for t mobile if that's the case when everyone can just go to the metro side and pay less? But the phone from t mobile unlocked and get a metro plan. That's wonky. Lol

Makes no sense. Going to be interesting to see how this all plays out.
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It makes sense when you consider TMo does offer more. They offer corporate accounts and support good for enterprise apps. They give their customers 500mb of free hotspot per month, they have wifi calling, they have conditional call forwarding for things like Google Voicemail, they offer 0% interest payment plans for devices, they have phones that run non-android OS (Blackberry, Windows, and iOS), they will likely have more high end devices in their stores, and they have a $30 monthly plan with 5gb of data and 100 minutes talk with unlimited messaging. Most of us here don't need or want any of these features but some people do. These features and brand recognition will keep people going to Tmo. People who don't need these things and are looking to save will gravitate towards Metro. Sprint, Boost, Virgin, and until recently, Nextel all have different pricing from each other, yet they all appeal to different segments.

The good news for us is our network wont be the restricted CDMA where regular Sprint phones can't run on the prepaid side. We get to use any compatible unlocked GSM phone. The BYOD for Metro most likely isn't targeted to lure people from Vzn, ATT, Sprint, or postpaid TMo. It's targeted at people on other prepaids. If someone on TMo jumps to Metro then sure, TMo may loose $10 a month. But if they jump to another prepaid then they lost the whole shebang. T-Metro is trying to pass Sprint for the #3 spot and I'm liking their take no prisoners approach. BYOD for the win.:D
 
So a lot of people are gonna find out that they are not in t mobiles area when they were in metros area? Metros coverage map will become t mobiles right?

Say your in a great metro area but an awful t mobile area. What happens? Reason I ask is because t mobiles coverage is terrible. One of their downfalls.
 
Fuzzy13 said:
So a lot of people are gonna find out that they are not in t mobiles area when they were in metros area? Metros coverage map will become t mobiles right?

Say your in a great metro area but an awful t mobile area. What happens? Reason I ask is because t mobiles coverage is terrible. One of their downfalls.
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If i remember correctly...metros 4g coverage was gonna be refarmed or something like that...
 
Fuzzy13 said:
So a lot of people are gonna find out that they are not in t mobiles area when they were in metros area? Metros coverage map will become t mobiles right?

Say your in a great metro area but an awful t mobile area. What happens? Reason I ask is because t mobiles coverage is terrible. One of their downfalls.
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They're joining the networks. I would hope that the Metro towers will not disappear but will be reconfigured when they refarm forming a combined coverage map. Since Metro is mostly urban I would guess that many, if not most of their towers are leased on top of buildings. Now I'm no expert on this but this makes the most sense... Why subtract coverage especially when you're contractually obligated with leases. You still have to pay for the tower lease whether or not you transmit your signal. :confused:
 
Fuzzy13 said:
So a lot of people are gonna find out that they are not in t mobiles area when they were in metros area? Metros coverage map will become t mobiles right?

Say your in a great metro area but an awful t mobile area. What happens? Reason I ask is because t mobiles coverage is terrible. One of their downfalls.
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All gonna change if they play hardball like they say they're gonna in the 600MHz auction, that's their plan for coverage expansion. It's not economically feasible for them to do expansion with the current spectrum bands they own.
 
anubispax said:
They're joining the networks. I would hope that the Metro towers will not disappear but will be reconfigured when they refarm forming a combined coverage map. Since Metro is mostly urban I would guess that many, if not most of their towers are leased on top of buildings. Now I'm no expert on this but this makes the most sense... Why subtract coverage especially when you're contractually obligated with leases. You still have to pay for the tower lease whether or not you transmit your signal. :confused:
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It's not good to have overlapping towers in the same area, causes interference and packet loss. Tmobiles already said theyll be shutting down 91% of the metropcs sites.
 
Here's my conundrum with BYOD, more specifically going with Google's S4 as opposed to Metro's. I've enjoyed flagship devices from Metro for quite some time now and have no problem plopping down whatever they want for a device because the service is dependable and the plans are amazing. But the variable that makes throwing up $500+ for a phone comfortable, is insurance. If I buy the MetroPCS S4 from them, they won't hesitate to set me up with my normal $5/mo safety net. If I buy the Google S4 and use it with Metro, is there any way to get it insured? I'm sure the Google Play store will do no such thing as I was never given the option when I bought my Nexus 10. Manufacturer's warranty is all well and good, but I'd much rather pay a $150-$200 deductible and have my replacement within 3 days instead of waiting for Google or Samsung. Also, most MW only cover 1 year, while insurance goes on forever, I'd hate to be naked on coverage if I decide to keep the phone for more than a year, a point in time at which having insurance would probably be most useful due to normal wear & tear.
 
MrRoyalOak said:
Here's my conundrum with BYOD, more specifically going with Google's S4 as opposed to Metro's. I've enjoyed flagship devices from Metro for quite some time now and have no problem plopping down whatever they want for a device because the service is dependable and the plans are amazing. But the variable that makes throwing up $500+ for a phone comfortable, is insurance. If I buy the MetroPCS S4 from them, they won't hesitate to set me up with my normal $5/mo safety net. If I buy the Google S4 and use it with Metro, is there any way to get it insured? I'm sure the Google Play store will do no such thing as I was never given the option when I bought my Nexus 10. Manufacturer's warranty is all well and good, but I'd much rather pay a $150-$200 deductible and have my replacement within 3 days instead of waiting for Google or Samsung. Also, most MW only cover 1 year, while insurance goes on forever, I'd hate to be naked on coverage if I decide to keep the phone for more than a year, a point in time at which having insurance would probably be most useful due to normal wear & tear.
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Cell Phone Insurance - Cell Phone Warranty - Cellphone Insurance
 
A couple years ago, I checked on 'showance for my laptop and ran up on Square-Trade. I was obviously pretty skeptical as many 3rd party warranty anything services are often ripoffs or major PIAs to deal with.

I was pretty shocked to read the reviews for them. Them came in with glowing colors. Hardly anyone had Any adverse issues with them and those that did were you usual eedeeit, on-line bitch, moan and complainers. I went ahead and signed up with them for a couple years on my LT. Of course, just like having a rain suit with you when you're motorcycle riding, that's just insured that I haven't needed to actually USE the 'showance, (having it). :rolleyes:

I would normally avoid 3rd party insurers like a West Memphis hooker but I wouldn't hesitate to hook up with Square Trade again. (Unless somehow they have gone completely in the turlet in the past 2 years...)

Bruce in Ocala, FL
 
Gman9831 said:
It's not good to have overlapping towers in the same area, causes interference and packet loss. Tmobiles already said theyll be shutting down 91% of the metropcs sites.
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I wasn't talking about the towers where they have overlapping coverage, I was talking about areas where Metro is good and TMo has no signal.
 
Fuzzy13 said:
So a lot of people are gonna find out that they are not in t mobiles area when they were in metros area? Metros coverage map will become t mobiles right?

Say your in a great metro area but an awful t mobile area. What happens? Reason I ask is because t mobiles coverage is terrible. One of their downfalls.
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This is one of the issues that worries me. I just tried T-Mobile recently and I could not get a signal in my house. I had to use Wifi calling and wifi for data. So I switched back to Metro. I get at least 1 bar, with decent speeds when it hasnt dropped to 1x. If I lose access to the Metro towers that actually work, and am forced back to the T-Mobile towers then Ill be back where I was before. Having to use wifi for everything. By the way I have a Metro S3.
 
MrRoyalOak said:
Here's my conundrum with BYOD, more specifically going with Google's S4 as opposed to Metro's. I've enjoyed flagship devices from Metro for quite some time now and have no problem plopping down whatever they want for a device because the service is dependable and the plans are amazing. But the variable that makes throwing up $500+ for a phone comfortable, is insurance. If I buy the MetroPCS S4 from them, they won't hesitate to set me up with my normal $5/mo safety net. If I buy the Google S4 and use it with Metro, is there any way to get it insured? I'm sure the Google Play store will do no such thing as I was never given the option when I bought my Nexus 10. Manufacturer's warranty is all well and good, but I'd much rather pay a $150-$200 deductible and have my replacement within 3 days instead of waiting for Google or Samsung. Also, most MW only cover 1 year, while insurance goes on forever, I'd hate to be naked on coverage if I decide to keep the phone for more than a year, a point in time at which having insurance would probably be most useful due to normal wear & tear.
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Insurance is designed to make the seller more money.

Most phones are easily taken apart and parts are readily available online for much cheaper than the cost of insurance.
 
anubispax said:
I wasn't talking about the towers where they have overlapping coverage, I was talking about areas where Metro is good and TMo has no signal.
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Probably be the 9% they won't shut down.
Tmo has been upgrading most of their towers lately and they have a pretty lenient supply amount on the contract with NSN and Ericsson so wouldn't be hard to add the metro towers to the list but eh who knows might already be included in the contract number.
 
Fuzzy13 said:
Insurance is designed to make the seller more money.

Most phones are easily taken apart and parts are readily available online for much cheaper than the cost of insurance.
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While this is true, I have had to use it once in the past for a STOLEN phone. Assurion didn't even make me file a police report. They told me that they didn't carry my phone anymore and gave me list of phones to choose from. Naturally, I chose the option that was better than my old phone(the other choices were ridiculously stupid, one was a flip), paid my deductible on the same call, had my new phone in 2 days. The phone I lost was Metro's first touch screen the Samsung Finesse. What a piece of crap, but I learned my lesson quickly. Always have insurance. To me it's a just as necessary as having a charger.
 
iamsirlurkalot said:
i wonder if were going to be able to bring unlocked chinese GSM smartphones to metro..
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depends on what you mean by "chinese" :p

international phones dont generally have hspa+ on the 1700/2100 band nor LTE on band 4.

If the phone in question supports the frequency that metro will be using, tmo's frequency, I would expect it to work just fine.

The part in this that I am still unsure of. Is tmo-metro going to stop using the 1700/2100 for hspa+ and just use 1900, like att and international carriers?
Then just run LTE on 1700/2100 AWS. Or they going to have a hodge podge mix hspa stays running on AWS but so does lte, wouldnt that limit the spectrum available for lte?
 
anubispax said:
The phones spectrum must match TMo's or you'd be limited to edge speeds. There are a lot more options if you live in an area that's been refarmed. There's a sticky on the Tmo forum here.

http://androidforums.com/t-mobile/706991-how-tell-if-phone-will-work-t-mobile.html
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thanks, that cleared alot. Pretty much has to have the 1700,2100 band, and HSPA+... the sucky part, havent been able to find a reliable (legit) site that sales bootleg phones with those specs.

but,well im eagerly waiting for the metro site to come back hopefully with some great news
 
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