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Time to JUMP! you drowning Motion rats! ;)

OcalaFlGuy

OcalaFlGuy

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(considering Myself one of those very rats.;) )

I think it's time to Make A Decision.

I did, I'm Just Barely an EX-Motion owner.

I think now's the time to either move to GSM and sell your Motion (or maybe keep it as <instead of> insurance) OR plan to hang til the CDMA lights flicker and go out and the SS Motion slides under the waves. :D

The average going price now on Fleabay is $60-70. I got 85 for mine with a case but mine was like brand new and it took some bush beating to get that. [1]

Unless you plan on holding on to your Motion until it's last dying CDMA breath, I think every day you wait now, it's worth less money. IMO, come 1/1/14, (barely 5 months from now) the first day of the last 12 months of CDMA, the Motion basically becomes worthless $ wise to sell, it'd be more PIA to sell it than you'd get.

I would say there's ONE real good reason NOT to jump at the moment at that's if you're wanting a mid-range ($250ish, Spiritish) phone. I don't see Any GSM's of those to go to right now.

Just something for you to noodlate. :D

[1] I had $100 into mine. I used it for 2 months and it was packed away and worked as an possible emergency "insurance" replacement for 5 months after that. All for about $25 after Fleabay and Paypal get their hits. For me, THAT'S the way a phone deal is supposed to work.

Bruce in Ocala, Fl
 
im going to keep mine till probably the last minute, i was going to get the nexus and do the bring your own phone thing but if i were to do that then i would lose my 55 plan :(
 
Pretty much ditto for me too. (With my Spirit)

There has been word that Metro will offer some sort of incentives to go to GSM around the middle of 2014. If my signal stays where it is now, I'd be surprised if I went GSM before then.

I only have $90 into my Spirit. If I wait until the middle of next year that will mean 1.5 years of use of a really nice phone for $90. I can keep the Spirit alive until there's no more CDMA for that. :rolleyes:

Add the $60 saving in this next year staying on my $55 plan to the $75 I netted for my Motion and that's about 1/2 of the used S3 I'll probably get next. :D

I would certainly agree though that there's many worse phone decisions than keeping a Motion til it no longer works.

Bruce in Ocala, Fl
 
OcalaFlGuy said:
Pretty much ditto for me too. (With my Spirit)

There has been word that Metro will offer some sort of incentives to go to GSM around the middle of 2014. If my signal stays where it is now, I'd be surprised if I went GSM before then.

I only have $90 into my Spirit. If I wait until the middle of next year that will mean 1.5 years of use of a really nice phone for $90. I can keep the Spirit alive until there's no more CDMA for that. :rolleyes:

Add the $60 saving in this next year staying on my $55 plan to the $75 I netted for my Motion and that's about 1/2 of the used S3 I'll probably get next. :D

I would certainly agree though that there's many worse phone decisions than keeping a Motion til it no longer works.

Bruce in Ocala, Fl
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Thats what they are hoping is going to happen no rumors on that
 
I stuck with my Optimus M for a year and three months, I passed on first the Esteem, then the Connect before finally upgrading to the Motion.

I've been really happy with the Motion, at the end of Aug will be this phone's 1st b day.

I tend to wait until a phone has undergone and passed its "Jedi trials" in this forum before making a purchase.
 
Well I've just done it, you can see my progression of devices on the left.
I really like(d) the Motion as well, and also had mine about a year. But with some annoying dead spots in CDMA coverage and knowing that it isn't going to get any better, I decided to bite the bullet and move to GSM. Fortunately I'm in an area where T-Mobile has built up their network and has LTE up and running, so there is a tremendous improvement in speed and so far the coverage has been as good or better in the places I've been.
I've had the F3 for several days now and I'm very happy with it, IMO it's a great choice for any Motion owner who likes their phone but wants to go GSM and doesn't want to break the bank. Just like the Motion was, it's a really great deal considering what you get for the money, the only significant drawback is the lower amount of internal memory but that hasn't been a dealbreaker for me. Root was super-easy (yeah the bootloader is still locked, good ol' LG) and I'm using Link2SD to move some apps to the SD card which helps to stretch the available space.
 
The way I look at it, with the amount of development on this phone right now, I am weary of giving up this phone for anything other than BYOD, because development on most Metro phones is little if any. I find the Motion to be far more valuable to me as a play thing I can toss to my irritable child POST CDMA, to let him/her play Angry Birds and the like, rather than to sell it for 2/3 what I paid for it. I have a good job, make plenty of money, and will probably just upgrade to something much nicer around tax time next year (February/March/April) and keep my Motion as a "We'll be driving for the next 2 hours, shut up and play Angry Birds you dirty little whiner" backup device for my kiddies. Plus, this is my first rooted, ROM'd, kernel'd, device, and the sentimental value will be too much to toss aside ;)
 
SwoRNLeaDejZ said:
The way I look at it, with the amount of development on this phone right now, I am weary of giving up this phone for anything other than BYOD, because development on most Metro phones is little if any. I find the Motion to be far more valuable to me as a play thing I can toss to my irritable child POST CDMA, to let him/her play Angry Birds and the like, rather than to sell it for 2/3 what I paid for it. I have a good job, make plenty of money, and will probably just upgrade to something much nicer around tax time next year (February/March/April) and keep my Motion as a "We'll be driving for the next 2 hours, shut up and play Angry Birds you dirty little whiner" backup device for my kiddies. Plus, this is my first rooted, ROM'd, kernel'd, device, and the sentimental value will be too much to toss aside ;)
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Same here. My devices are worth more to me then the money I would get for them. That's why I still have my (and my wifes) optimus and my esteem.and I'll be keeping this one when I switch to Verizon for the note 3 in February... gotta wait for taxes to cone back so my wife will let me spend some money on phones. Lol
 
OcalaFlGuy said:
(considering Myself one of those very rats.;) )

I think it's time to Make A Decision.

I did, I'm Just Barely an EX-Motion owner.

I think now's the time to either move to GSM and sell your Motion (or maybe keep it as <instead of> insurance) OR plan to hang til the CDMA lights flicker and go out and the SS Motion slides under the waves. :D

The average going price now on Fleabay is $60-70. I got 85 for mine with a case but mine was like brand new and it took some bush beating to get that. [1]

Unless you plan on holding on to your Motion until it's last dying CDMA breath, I think every day you wait now, it's worth less money. IMO, come 1/1/14, (barely 5 months from now) the first day of the last 12 months of CDMA, the Motion basically becomes worthless $ wise to sell, it'd be more PIA to sell it than you'd get.

I would say there's ONE real good reason NOT to jump at the moment at that's if you're wanting a mid-range ($250ish, Spiritish) phone. I don't see Any GSM's of those to go to right now.

Just something for you to noodlate. :D

[1] I had $100 into mine. I used it for 2 months and it was packed away and worked as an possible emergency "insurance" replacement for 5 months after that. All for about $25 after Fleabay and Paypal get their hits. For me, THAT'S the way a phone deal is supposed to work.

Bruce in Ocala, Fl
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Excuse me, Bruce, but could you please explain in plain, ordinary, everyday English what you are talking about?? To we non-tech types, this is all so much Greek!

Thanks,
HB
 
Just that it IMO was nearing a decision time as what to do with your CDMA Motion relative to everything being GSM in 2015.

If you plan to put money from your Motion towards your next phone, the value of the Motion is dropping. More than about 5 months from now, you'll get less for it than the hassle of putting it on Ebay is worth.

On the other hand, that really doesn't matter if you are one of the ones who are going to wait til either the last of CDMA in 2015 or at least til there are some incentives to switch over (maybe) around the middle of 2014.

FWIW, the LG F4 is about the same as the Motion but GSM and a bigger screen than the Motion. IF one Were Not going to hang on CDMA til the end, getting $70 for their Motion now to go towards a $150 F4 would be a pretty good decision IMO.

Hope that helps.

Bruce in Ocala, Fl
 
OcalaFlGuy said:
Just that it IMO was nearing a decision time as what to do with your CDMA Motion relative to everything being GSM in 2015.

If you plan to put money from your Motion towards your next phone, the value of the Motion is dropping. More than about 5 months from now, you'll get less for it than the hassle of putting it on Ebay is worth.

On the other hand, that really doesn't matter if you are one of the ones who are going to wait til either the last of CDMA in 2015 or at least til there are some incentives to switch over (maybe) around the middle of 2014.

FWIW, the LG F4 is about the same as the Motion but GSM and a bigger screen than the Motion. IF one Were Not going to hang on CDMA til the end, getting $70 for their Motion now to go towards a $150 F4 would be a pretty good decision IMO.

Hope that helps.

Bruce in Ocala, Fl
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I understand a little better, but I have no idea what you mean by CDMA and GSM. Does this mean MetroPCS is not going to support the Motion for much longer???
 
MetroPCS runs on CDMA technology, T-Mobile, and most other carriers at this point, use GSM. They are two different modes of transmission and a phone that uses one is incompatible with the other. Now that the merger has happened and the new phones Metro is rolling out work only on T-Mobile's GSM, they have planned a shutdown of the old CDMA system sometime in 2015 (the presumption is that by that time all existing customers will have migrated over to new GSM devices).
So your Motion will continue to work for the forseeable future should you choose to hang on to it, most likely by the time they throw that switch and CDMA goes dark you will have moved on to a newer (GSM) phone anyway. I'm sure Metro will give plenty of advance notice when it is actually going to happen and there will likely be incentives to get any stragglers into new phones.
Some of us are just choosing to look ahead and make the switch now. Doing so makes more sense in areas such as mine where T-Mobile has already built up their LTE network and there is a substantial performance improvement to be gained by switching.
 
Fox Mulder said:
MetroPCS runs on CDMA technology, T-Mobile, and most other carriers at this point, use GSM. They are two different modes of transmission and a phone that uses one is incompatible with the other. Now that the merger has happened and the new phones Metro is rolling out work only on T-Mobile's GSM, they have planned a shutdown of the old CDMA system sometime in 2015 (the presumption is that by that time all existing customers will have migrated over to new GSM devices).
So your Motion will continue to work for the forseeable future should you choose to hang on to it, most likely by the time they throw that switch and CDMA goes dark you will have moved on to a newer (GSM) phone anyway. I'm sure Metro will give plenty of advance notice when it is actually going to happen and there will likely be incentives to get any stragglers into new phones.
Some of us are just choosing to look ahead and make the switch now. Doing so makes more sense in areas such as mine where T-Mobile has already built up their LTE network and there is a substantial performance improvement to be gained by switching.
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Thank you for explaining that. Yikes! I just got my Motion in late April for $150. I had no idea this was going to happen. : (
 
Then don't worry.

If you like your Motion you should be able to use it network wise for About another year and 4 months.

IF you kept it that long (and it didn't die from Sudden Death Syndrome in the mean time), [1] you'd have had it in use for 19 months, your Motion would have cost you a whole $7.90 a month.

Statistically, almost everyone changes phones at least one time within 12 months.

[1] I'd bet money you don't make it to the end of CDMA with your Motion anyway. There's be an increase in Sudden Death Syndrome with Motions in the past few months. I'd be surprised if yours lasts the full 16 remaining months of CDMA. Hopefully it will last til the summer of next year when there is rumor Metro will offer some incentives to get the stragglers over to GSM.

Just keep Loving your Motion HB, you'll be fine.

Bruce in Ocala, Fl
 
OcalaFlGuy said:
Then don't worry.

If you like your Motion you should be able to use it network wise for About another year and 4 months.

IF you kept it that long (and it didn't die from Sudden Death Syndrome in the mean time), [1] you'd have had it in use for 19 months, your Motion would have cost you a whole $7.90 a month.

Statistically, almost everyone changes phones at least one time within 12 months.

[1] I'd bet money you don't make it to the end of CDMA with your Motion anyway. There's be an increase in Sudden Death Syndrome with Motions in the past few months. I'd be surprised if yours lasts the full 16 remaining months of CDMA. Hopefully it will last til the summer of next year when there is rumor Metro will offer some incentives to get the stragglers over to GSM.

Just keep Loving your Motion HB, you'll be fine.

Bruce in Ocala, Fl
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Bruce, I have to ask... What do you do for a living? You are one of the most well spoken folks on this forum ;)
 
OcalaFlGuy said:
Then don't worry.

If you like your Motion you should be able to use it network wise for About another year and 4 months.

IF you kept it that long (and it didn't die from Sudden Death Syndrome in the mean time), [1] you'd have had it in use for 19 months, your Motion would have cost you a whole $7.90 a month.

Statistically, almost everyone changes phones at least one time within 12 months.

[1] I'd bet money you don't make it to the end of CDMA with your Motion anyway. There's be an increase in Sudden Death Syndrome with Motions in the past few months. I'd be surprised if yours lasts the full 16 remaining months of CDMA. Hopefully it will last til the summer of next year when there is rumor Metro will offer some incentives to get the stragglers over to GSM.

Just keep Loving your Motion HB, you'll be fine.

Bruce in Ocala, Fl
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Thanks, Bruce. I really do like the phone. The only problem I have with it is that it turns itself off every few days, even though I turn it off and on again every two or three days. I do not know if that is a warning that it is not going to last much longer or not, though.

HB
 
I will mention here that although I was still pretty happy with the Motion and would have kept it for a while longer if not for the network changes, I was having more of the minor annoyances of late such as reboots and GPS dropout. Who knows if those would have gotten worse or if they were an indication of an impending failure, I guess I'll never know.
 
Fox Mulder said:
I will mention here that although I was still pretty happy with the Motion and would have kept it for a while longer if not for the network changes, I was having more of the minor annoyances of late such as reboots and GPS dropout. Who knows if those would have gotten worse or if they were an indication of an impending failure, I guess I'll never know.
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All of the reboots and gps issues were the latest firmware update. As soon as I installed F the same shit started happening to me. God bless cm10 ;)
 
Fox Mulder said:
I will mention here that although I was still pretty happy with the Motion and would have kept it for a while longer if not for the network changes, I was having more of the minor annoyances of late such as reboots and GPS dropout. Who knows if those would have gotten worse or if they were an indication of an impending failure, I guess I'll never know.
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Fox, which phone did you get to replace your Motion, and what do you think of the new one?

HB
 
HunnieBunnie said:
Fox, which phone did you get to replace your Motion, and what do you think of the new one?

HB
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I got the F3. It's the closest thing to the Motion in a GSM phone, just a bit taller but thinner and lighter with a better screen and phenomenal battery life. Have it a week now and really liking it so far. The only area where it falls short compared to the Motion is user memory, 1.2G vs 5. I'm addressing the memory issue by using Link2SD and it's not a deal breaker for me (required root but I would have rooted it anyway).
You can find more posts about the F3 in the F3 and Metro forums.
 
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