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Root Porting ClockWorkMod to the Kyocera Rise

What's there for us to do? Cwm will only boot in the public mobile and sprint versions via fast boot. VM users can't do that. Sigh its starting to be hopeless but still ill roll out any ideas that come my way to make things easier
 
TechDad378 said:
Kexec won't work because the "atags" are disabled and the device will not allow you to change it.
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Hmm I have an idea. I see that cwm has been built for sprint and public mobile for the rise and can be used for fastboot. But ik that it wont stick. I heard of xposed modules and they rock. My idea is for someone to have the built cwm recovery as a module. Since memory is changing and all we can use that as an advantage. If we can get it built as a module and find a way to activate that in place of the stock recovery we will be on our way for roms but only for stock roms. now instead of making cwm atm is it possible to use a module to add this option to our recovery "update.zip"? since xposed doesnt do anything to the device but use memory, can we use that as our advantage to backport to a lesser firmware and then build cwm from the lesser firmware?
 
mel4787 said:
Hmm I have an idea. I see that cwm has been built for sprint and public mobile for the rise and can be used for fastboot. But ik that it wont stick. I heard of xposed modules and they rock. My idea is for someone to have the built cwm recovery as a module. Since memory is changing and all we can use that as an advantage. If we can get it built as a module and find a way to activate that in place of the stock recovery we will be on our way for roms but only for stock roms. now instead of making cwm atm is it possible to use a module to add this option to our recovery "update.zip"? since xposed doesnt do anything to the device but use memory, can we use that as our advantage to backport to a lesser firmware and then build cwm from the lesser firmware?
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I'm not sure how this would really help much. If you're already using the xposed framework, messing with stock roms isn't going to give much more benefit. Backporting the firmware isn't going to get the device to a state that's any more beneficial to us than the Sprint or PM Rise is, if anything at all. Also, cwm isn't built using any of the source or binaries for the rom. The only thing that is used is the kernel, which wedo have sources for, and it doesn't help us in the slightest.
 
this is tough. the only way is to decompile the bootloader itself to see where everything is at. thats the only way due to many workarounds arent helping this device the least.
 
Being that fastboot is embedded in the bootloader, we could probably build our own fastboot images (without security features, of course) and use that, but testing it be risky. If it doesn't work your bricked. Other than that, I don't think that we can get to it.
 
hmm interesting. question to everyone working on this device, how long does it take to decompile the bootloader? also can this phone be used with flashtools? if not can one be developed for this device to flash cwm? also since atags is disabled by the device is there any way we can extract the atags somehow?
 
looked into other phones. is there a way we can patch our bootloader to get the bootloader unlocked by chance
 
Is there a way to flash a patched version of a bootloader to our device to get fastboot on this device. Or find a way to unpatch this bootloader to access fastboot
 
kman9637 said:
Well, we tried but I think Kyocera won this round :bawling:
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Kind of. I for one won't ever buy Kyocera again, ever, and will actively recommend against anyone I know buying one either.

The one I've got is going to get the CDMA radio destroyed (software) so it can be turned in to a childrens toy, like a mini tablet with kid controls and such. And it's barely even adequate for that, the Kyocera software is so poor.
 
kyocera hasnt won yet. i believe if we decipher the bootloader and the security within the bootloader and build it from the ground up is when we can claim victory. thats the only way we can do something. we have no choice but to decompile the bootloader and see if we can undo any patches to it. its gonna be a long fight with this one but ik we will succeed in this one.
 
Mel, if you're willing to donate the time, go ahead, but I don't think anyone else is willing to, not for a $30-$100 device...

I still maintain that for its price, its an excellent device for someone looking for a cheap, low-end Android phone for e-mail and simple apps. I know people sitll using theirs for basic functions.
 
well im not gonna give up on this device. its very good and does the job. i even modded it to be like another phone. but i understand some things. dont worry im at kyocera's neck on this subject. they will cave before i do
 
guess its gonna be endless between me and kyocera because im not gonna let them win when other phone companies are above them and have better specs than they do
 
dibblebill said:
for e-mail and simple apps
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I might have agreed were it not for the Kyocera implementation of Swype crashing, and in doing so totally disabling the hardware keyboard. That happened a lot and the only cure was a full reboot. I've had (and have) Swype on other phones with no issues like that ever which brings the culprit right back to craptastic Kyocera software.

Seriously folks, this handset isn't worth the effort when you can get a dual core phone from a manufacturer that isn't actively working against you, and for $50 or less used on Amazon. Kyocera wants to limit their market, I say let them limit themselves right off the market.
 
db2 said:
I might have agreed were it not for the Kyocera implementation of Swype crashing, and in doing so totally disabling the hardware keyboard. That happened a lot and the only cure was a full reboot. I've had (and have) Swype on other phones with no issues like that ever which brings the culprit right back to craptastic Kyocera software.

Seriously folks, this handset isn't worth the effort when you can get a dual core phone from a manufacturer that isn't actively working against you, and for $50 or less used on Amazon. Kyocera wants to limit their market, I say let them limit themselves right off the market.
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hey its their fault. if they were gonna limit everything for us then they shouldnt have gone into the phone market. its their fault and they will lose to the market of other phones
 
So, I just got notified that there's a new OTA update available. is there a way i can see how the packages are signed? And should I unroot the phone for the update?
 
I was wondering the same thing about the update, should I unroot? Is it even worth installing? How can I know what are the changes? o.o
 
first things first we need to get the files and see how they are being flashed onto these phones. once thats done we can do what we need to do to get cwm ported. we need to compare what the changes are and see how we can reverse engineer the flashing and fully unlock this phone. any takers
 
I would very like an answer to my questions, the update is sitting there in my phone waiting to be updated. Still not sure if I should or not...
 
Alternity said:
I would very like an answer to my questions, the update is sitting there in my phone waiting to be updated. Still not sure if I should or not...
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i say wait on it to see what it does for the phone. i havent updated my other phone the hydro because i dont know what it does. it could remove root and i wont update if it does remove root. wait a bit to see what others have done with the update
 
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