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Malaysia Airlines tragedies

ok here is my take on what happened.....and I'm usually almost always right:)


There was a small fire that caused a malfunction including the communications on board...It progressed and shut down more functions....The pilots were aware of this and tried to do what they could...Unfortunately ...the damage was too extensive...The Plane crashed into the ocean...

no terrorist...no hijacking...no evil pilot...or passengers...no conspiracy theory


just a tragic accident....:(


ok carry on
 
huh said:
ok here is my take on what happened.....and I'm usually almost always right:)


There was a small fire that caused a malfunction including the communications on board...It progressed and shut down more functions....The pilots were aware of this and tried to do what they could...Unfortunately ...the damage was too extensive...The Plane crashed into the ocean...

no terrorist...no hijacking...no evil pilot...or passengers...no conspiracy theory


just a tragic accident....:(


ok carry on
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So naturally they turned and flew several hours towards Australia.
 
If the oil is aviation grade, it won't prove anything but may raise analysis confidence, perhaps by a little. It's probably the public that will make a bigger deal out of it.

If it's not from an airplane, no surprise either unfortunately - we've dumped or lost a lot of oil in the seas.

It's possible that the next biggest challenge is not so much the underwater search in and of itself - but when and how to conduct it.

I understand that storms are predicted for the area and the animation above shows that launching and retrieving the Bluefin isn't something that you would want to do in rough weather.

It has to deploy, descend, search, ascend and be recovered in under 25 hours per trip, if I remember the specs correctly.
 
also in a interview with a news teams airline corespondent, the corespondent made mention to a protocol that matches the description of the indecent and that is:

if there is smoke detected they must turn off all electrical equipment that is not needed to sustain flight. Then turn one item on at a time to isolate the failed equipment and then take action from there.

I really don't believe there was any foul play, instead just a tragic misfortune.

But until they recover the black boxes we won't know anything, and even if they do find them they won't necessarily know what really happened.
 
SolApathy said:
..the ocean lies... It's complicit in the plane conspiracy. It's true, they said so on CNN
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Yeah, the depth is estimated at the Bluefin limit, about 4500 meters, according to several accounts.

Search and recovery vehicles used for Air France were rated to 6000.

It's not at an unreachable depth.

Just a difficult one.
 
As I understand it, there were a few hours when the plane stopped transmitting radar, when it was headed north, near the Koreas. Then the radar resumed, but the radar showed the plane headed south toward where we think it is now.

Assuming that part is true, couldn't the plane have landed during those few hours and the radar emitting devices be transferred to a different plane? And that other plane, which is just a decoy, is lying deep in the Indian Ocean? And the plane we're looking for is sill landed but transmitting nothing?
 
jefboyardee said:
As I understand it, there were a few hours when the plane stopped transmitting radar, when it was headed north, near the Koreas. Then the radar resumed, but the radar showed the plane headed south toward where we think it is now.

Assuming that part is true, couldn't the plane have landed during those few hours and the radar emitting devices be transferred to a different plane? And that other plane, which is just a decoy, is lying deep in the Indian Ocean? And the plane we're looking for is sill landed but transmitting nothing?
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It's a 7 hour flight to Korea, so I'm going to go with probably not.
 
Okay, that radar silence happened somewhere; mentioning Korea was me converting guessing into remembering. So use my theory but change 'Korea' to wherever they were then.
 
jefboyardee said:
Okay, that radar silence happened somewhere; mentioning Korea was me converting guessing into remembering. So use my theory but change 'Korea' to wherever they were then.
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Only radar silences I recall were from their normal course over the South China Sea to the Malacca Straight (covering Malaysia) and then after missing Indonesia, over the ocean afterwards.

And that's a big IF those reports are truly verified. Little has been said since the original mishandling of all that.

I see where you're going, I just don't see any timeline to a 777 capable airstrip supporting it.

People have tried fitting Diego Garcia and a number of others into that scenario - and it breaks other confirmed data every time.

With the information available to us that led to the southern search zone, that so far, has held up.
 
PS - just to cross the T - the plane doesn't transmit radar per se.

Its transponder answers when lit up by secondary radar with a defined response. The transponder was shut off or became inoperative early on between Malaysia and Vietnam.

The Malacca Strait radar was from primary (military) radar, and the target aircraft has no say in responding - it's either detected or not.

ACARS was also shut off or became inoperative about the time the transponder did. That doesn't respond to radar, it's just a fixed data delivery system.
 
Okay, I also have the terminology crosseyed, not to mention the possible locations. I'll start over with my crazy theory:

Somewhere in the area between Malaysia and Vietnam, knowing people on the 777 turned off the transponder and the ACARS systems, rendering the plane invisible to the rest of the world. At that point, they landed the plane in that area. Then they physically transferred the transponder and ACARS systems to, say, a tiny drone.

While the plane stayed aground, the drone flew to the Indian Ocean, transmitting data that told us it was the 777. Then then drone crashed into the deepest available part of the Indian Ocean, which caused it to stop transmitting and us to think the plane must be there. But it's not, it's just a drone down there, and no one will ever find such a tiny thing at the bottom of such a deep ocean. That will cause us to waste months and billions, trying to find the impossible.

Meanwhile, the 777 and its crew (or new crew) are just waiting for the world to give up on this hopeless search. Then they'll be able to enact the most nefarious something in the history of everything.
 
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