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Rant Thread - What really grinds your gears?

nickdalzell said:
Here's my latest rant:

Emojis

WTF is it with them? OMG Samsung Messages is so Gingerbread it doesn't support emoji!!!

Seriously? Am I showing my age already or what? first of all, WTF are emojis? those little annoying animal symbols in FB Messenger? What's wrong with emoticons? that's all i even use! Heck, lately i've been using Gerty Emoticons from Moon (excellent movie) because i'm that Sci-Fi

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Emojis are yet another way for younger generations to express themselves without having to write, which means:
#1:] Forming an idea
#2:] Creating a cohesive thought
#3:] Writing it down, with correct grammar, punctuation, and spelling

Was that another rant?

May everyone's Sunday be a nice one, and, if it's already Monday where you're at - have a good week ;) - LW
 
I'm utterly worn out of users who try to root without doing proper research, if they do any at all. They hear rooting is some kinda cure-all hot-diggity fix it and dive in willy-nilly without knowing even the raw basics. Understanding terminology, correct ROMs, a recovery plan if things go wrong, backups - screw taking time for that stuff, I found a YouTube video for a phone kinda like mine, I'm good to go.

I simply do not help with borked rooting attempts anymore if it's obvious that the user failed to do their homework first. If that sounds cold so be it.

Almost as bad are people who say "Root it!" to solve almost anything even when it's obvious that the user with a problem is a total n00b that has no business whatsoever attempting to root. Shame on you!
 
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LOveWerks said:
Truthfully, I did snag the pump from him, because a compact-sized car can maneuver quicker than a King Cab with duelies.

I suppose that I had better watch my karma, or, my Ka-Tet... better to be safe, than sorry. Good night, all ;) LW
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Just my two cents about Gas Station rants...

People who get pi$$ off at people who drive cars that happen to have a gas tank portal on the Passenger Side of the car instead of the Driver Side...

Seriously, my previous car, a Pontiac G5, had its gas tank portal on the Passenger Side, so when I would get to a gas station, I would go towards the correct Left Lanes, and invariably, some jerk with a gas tank port on the Drivers Side would honk and curse at me for going the wrong way in the gas station lane. Typically, I'd point to the gas tank portal on the Passenger Side of my car. Usually that shut them up. There were a few times, however, that someone would threaten to beat me up or something. One time, a guy even told me that I should get rid of the car, or get the gas tank moved.
 
nickdalzell said:
Here's my latest rant:

Emojis

WTF is it with them? OMG Samsung Messages is so Gingerbread it doesn't support emoji!!!

Seriously? Am I showing my age already or what? first of all, WTF are emojis? those little annoying animal symbols in FB Messenger? What's wrong with emoticons? that's all i even use! Heck, lately i've been using Gerty Emoticons from Moon (excellent movie) because i'm that Sci-Fi

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"I'm turning Japanese
I think I'm turning Japanese
I really think so
Turning Japanese
I think I'm turning Japanese
I really think so"
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What grinds my gears is, Americans ranting about Japanese culture and not understanding it.


Not everyone uses western emoticons, emoji are popular in this country as well. [emoji630][emoji630][emoji630]
 
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mikedt said:
"I'm turning Japanese
I think I'm turning Japanese
I really think so
Turning Japanese
I think I'm turning Japanese
I really think so"
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What grinds my gears is, Americans ranting about Japanese culture and not understanding it.


Not everyone uses western emoticons, emoji are popular in this country as well. [emoji630][emoji630][emoji630]
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The Japanese probably have a very unflattering opinion of some of us, too. They are entitled to their culture and their heritage. Goes back a lot longer than ours.
"We don't know how to mind our own business, the whole world must be just like us" Steppenwolf, Monster.
 
As far as gas tank rants, cultural differences, emojis, and all of that are concerned:

I don't speak any Asian languages, but when you watch the translations to English, they are usually speaking four syllables to our one in English. Hence, the emoji... if it works in Japanese culture, then, that's a good thing for them. I even use them from time to time, and, emoticons. However...

I raised two American kids, and their ability to write in cursive is non-existent, let alone having the ability to write correctly with punctuation, grammar, and spelling in their native English language. I tried teaching them at home (I had my late mother's Palmer Method Script book - she was a teacher), and they came home with horror stories of being teased by the other kids.

I hadn't forgotten. Kids can be really, really cruel. If any blame is to be laid upon this problem, it has to do with the 'informal' style of writing that has been going on since the days of Mosaic, and, newsgroups on the 'Net.

Trucks (I'm not sure about the lorries in the UK, and other countries around the world) are usually outfitted with their fillers on the left in the USA - along with most of the trucks that are US - imports. All I have to say is that if I'm in the correct point of egress, and my car has better maneuverability - I'm going to snag a pump, truck or no truck...

As far as rooting a phone is concerned, Crashdamage is correct - some phones, like my Beast Mobile LG F3, can be rooted. However, when your ext2 is read-only, and the same thing applies for the bootloader - you're in for some headaches when the OTA from your provider keeps popping up when you're posting on AF, for example... no working recovery, and, you accidently hit the wrong icon on your screen... welcome to the world of soft-bricks...

Carry on, everyone, and RANT. Let us all know what grinds your gears. I love you all, imperfect as we may be. ;) LW
 
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LOveWerks said:
As far as gas tank rants, cultural differences, emojis, and all of that are concerned:

I don't speak any Asian languages, but when you watch the translations to English, they are usually speaking four syllables to our one in English. Hence, the emoji... if it works in Japanese culture, then, that's a good thing for them. I even use them from time to time, and, emoticons. However...
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Mandarin is a tonal language and doesn't use stress in the same way English does. So if you say "ma" straight and almost singing it, it means "mother", but say it with a falling and rising tone, it means "horse". Sometimes can end up with what I call machine-gun English, where they're rattling out English syllables, but with no stress in them.

Recent versions of Android do support emoji for SMS messaging and other things, but if someone has an old Samsung with Gingerbread or something, then hard luck. There are third-party apps that do support it anyway.

Emoji originally comes from Japan of course, but it was really Apple iOS on iPhones that first popularised it in the West AFAICT, with "Apple Color Emoji", because before that it was monochrome and Japanese devices only.

Some emoji is only meaningful to Asian culture, and there are the cute animals as well of course. LOL

Can even have animated 3D emoji if you want, but this is iOS only at moment AFAIK.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/animated-3d-emoji-free-new/id429348043?mt=8


LOveWerks said:
I raised two American kids, and their ability to write in cursive is non-existent, let alone having the ability to write correctly with punctuation, grammar, and spelling in their native English language. I tried teaching them at home (I had my late mother's Palmer Method Script book - she was a teacher), and they came home with horror stories of being teased by the other kids.

I hadn't forgotten. Kids can be really, really cruel. If any blame is to be laid upon this problem, it has to do with the 'informal' style of writing that has been going on since the days of Mosaic, and, newsgroups on the 'Net.
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Students in this country learn how to write properly, first printing and how to form the Latin alphabet letters properly, and then proper cursive. Just like I did in the UK, 1960s and 70s. And they also learn proper hanzi(Chinese characters) calligraphy as well of course.
 
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I just don't get the whole issue about not having emoji on their messaging app. I must be getting old, because i don't see the lack of an emoticon set i'd never use as a deal breaker. I quite like Samsung's (and LG's) SMS app. easy to use, works fine, and is themeable.

Must be some hip and trendy thing for the younger set, kinda like flat design UI with over-reliance on gesture input.
 
nickdalzell said:
I just don't get the whole issue about not having emoji on their messaging app. I must be getting old, because i don't see the lack of an emoticon set i'd never use as a deal breaker. I quite like Samsung's (and LG's) SMS app. easy to use, works fine, and is themeable.
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Current Samsungs definitely do have emoji, it's been in Android since Kitkat 4.4. Just about all current phones and tablets should have it now. As well as being in OS X Lion and upwards, as well as Windows 8. Not having emoji could be a deal breaker for a 51 year old Englishman. :)

How would I tell everyone I'm having ramen and sushi for lunch, or how I'm going to travel somewhere? Especially when many of my readers don't know much English. There's a lot of emoji I never use, like the cute animals.

Why even bother with traditional emoticons? Just spell it out in English. Problem with those, they can convey mood or meaning, but not much else. :/ ;)

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Must be some hip and trendy thing for the younger set, kinda like flat design UI with over-reliance on gesture input.
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One thing, emoji is anything but flat UI, can be very skeuomorphic. I presume you prefer 96 character ASCII? Which originated in the 1960s, and has no foreign symbols in it, no foreign currency etc, apart from "$".


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I now present Les Misérables in emoji.
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mikedt said:
Mandarin is a tonal language and doesn't use stress in the same way English does. So if you say "ma" straight and almost singing it, it means "mother", but say it with a falling and rising tone, it means "horse". Sometimes can end up with what I call machine-gun English, where they're rattling out English syllables, but with no stress in them.

Recent versions of Android do support emoji for SMS messaging and other things, but if someone has an old Samsung with Gingerbread or something, then hard luck. There are third-party apps that do support it anyway.

Emoji originally comes from Japan of course, but it was really Apple iOS on iPhones that first popularised it in the West AFAICT, with "Apple Color Emoji", because before that it was monochrome and Japanese devices only.

Some emoji is only meaningful to Asian culture, and there are the cute animals as well of course. LOL

Can even have animated 3D emoji if you want, but this is iOS only at moment AFAIK.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/animated-3d-emoji-free-new/id429348043?mt=8




Students in this country learn how to write properly, first printing and how to form the Latin alphabet letters properly, and then proper cursive. Just like I did in the UK, 1960s and 70s. And they also learn proper hanzi(Chinese characters) calligraphy as well of course.
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Mandarin may be tonal, but every Asian language I've ever heard spoken cannot be as direct or succinct as English.

I'm happy to know that you are teaching your students in the fashion that we were taught, during the 60s & 70s.

My rant is simple: the American educational system has gone down the toilet, and if it's the same way in Great Britain, then, Western Civilization better be paying close attention.

I loved Sister Mary Margaret - she was from Great Britain, and she had a metal yardstick that could inflict knuckle damage.

I'm from the last part of the Baby Boom, and I remember my grandparents and parents saying how "...screwed up things were getting."

They weren't lying. LW
 
English ends sentences on a falling sound for statements, or you're giving an order, and a rising sound for questions, like you're asking for something. Mandarin doesn't do that, has a specific ending syllable for questions, "ma" said rather quickly. Which is what I teach my students.

But there's something I just hate the sound of and does grind my gears, upspeak, which is ending every sentence with a rising sound. So it sounds like the speaker is not sure and always seeking reassurance. George W Bush was terrible for it. So to me he sounded like he didn't know what he was doing.
 
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It's been almost 2 years now since I've used Touchwiz, but I could have sworn my Galaxy S's native SMS app had emoji. Maybe I'm delusional though. I don't use emoji much in texting, so I don't really pay attention. I'd go and look, but the device no longer has Touchwiz or anything Samsung on it.
 
mikedt said:
English ends sentences on a falling sound for statements, or you're giving an order, and a rising sound for questions, like you're asking for something. Mandarin doesn't do that, has a specific ending syllable for questions, "ma" said rather quickly. Which is what I teach my students.

But there's something I just hate the sound of and does grind my gears, upspeak, which is ending every sentence with a rising sound. So it sounds like the speaker is not sure and always seeking reassurance. George W Bush was terrible for it. So to me he sounded like he didn't know what he was doing.
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"Dubyuh" wasn't exactly a banner student at Yale, either...

I've heard the 'upspeak' tonality in many immigrants who come to America, especially Hispanics. I translated the written part of DMV tests for many Hispanics, before 9/11 happened in this country.

I grew up in a home where Italian was spoken, so, crossing over to Spanish was easy.

However, I use the Duolingo app to correct the imperfect dialectic Abruzzo Italian that happened in my childhood home. LW

 
mikedt said:
English ends sentences on a falling sound for statements, or you're giving an order, and a rising sound for questions, like you're asking for something. Mandarin doesn't do that, has a specific ending syllable for questions, "ma" said rather quickly. Which is what I teach my students.

But there's something I just hate the sound of and does grind my gears, upspeak, which is ending every sentence with a rising sound. So it sounds like the speaker is not sure and always seeking reassurance. George W Bush was terrible for it. So to me he sounded like he didn't know what he was doing.
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How about the Canadian "EH?" at the end of a sentence? Words used to be added like VerstehenSie? (my mother pronounced as versteschtdu?) Capisce - the Americanized Italian for understand. comprende?? All with rising inflection. Blame it on new tech. You can dictate to a phone, but does the dictation use an inflection as it used to on old dictating machines, or indicate it if the text is read back aloud? We seem to be following rules for communicating via text, now. We will be going back to using an amanuensis for special written invites for very special occasions if the schools no longer teach script.
 
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Just to add my two cents here...

I was recently told that the schools around where I live no longer teach cursive hand writing. My question is, then, how is the future generations going to be able to Sign important documents?

I mean, is everything going to become digital signature only? I'm sorry, but while I use technology frequently, I don't completely trust it. I much prefer to put a physical ink signature on an important document, rather than trusting a digital signature.
 
I agree, and took exception to my son's second-grade teacher downplaying the need for prior penmanship and spelling because "everything is done on computers nowadays."

"You know," I said, "every day, I have to fill out forms and work orders with pen and paper. Aside from that, most job applications still require application of pen to paper."
 
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Dngrsone said:
I agree, and took exception to my son's second-grade teacher downplaying the need for prior penmanship and spelling because "everything is done on computers nowadays."

"You know," I said, "every day, I have to fill out forms and work orders with pen and paper. Aside from that, most job applications still require application of pen to paper."
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Completely Agree!

Also, what happens if someone is at a job and either the network goes down or the electricity goes out...

The correct answer, of course, is that you go to pen and paper.
 
I taught my kids at a young age how to forge my signature:)

comes in handy with band practice charts permission slips etc etc...:)

then again my sig is pretty much my first name and a long straight line with a dot in the middle somewhere for an i for my last name... when I got married I went from a 4 letter last name to a 10 letter last name...ehhhh too much work:)
 
huh said:
I taught my kids at a young age how to forge my signature:)

comes in handy with band practice charts permission slips etc etc...:)

then again my sig is pretty much my first name and a long straight line with a dot in the middle somewhere for an i for my last name... when I got married I went from a 4 letter last name to a 10 letter last name...ehhhh too much work:)
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I chair a board, and for routine stuff the clerks use a signature stamp. Well, when one of the board members changed they replaced the stamp. Evan was visiting one day and they gave him the old stamp.:eek: That needs to disappear before high school.
 
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