You have to pay for either one. I think scars count. My tats are not going away but I have outlived many of my scars. I had a trophy sized scar from a 4" riggers axe from my youth that got out of Dodge. I guess it had all of me it could handle. 

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yeah i think we are starting with the forearm and then go up from there.....at least that is what was discussed initially. it might change though. i know it will be at least 2 sittings of about 4 hours or so.I like your aquatic theme idea. It will be cool! My large dragon.. shoulder to elbow was done in two sittings. All the outline in one and color a week later. It wasn't my idea but what the artist wanted to do. He did the work after hours so it was just he and I and one of his buddies in the shop. We had tunes going and some lively conversation but no movies. We took a smoke break both nights and we had a few beers at the end of each session. That was a long time ago in a different world.![]()