syntrix
Android Expert
menu off the home page (lower soft button), all the way to the bottom, click "about phone"
click "battery use"
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Battery Life??
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menu off the home page (lower soft button), all the way to the bottom, click "about phone"
click "battery use"
i dont think i have a lot just a couple games and few other things. i jus dont understand why you need another application to stop another existing one. it should do it automatically.
Barbara
Android Expert
I agree that this phone is certainly not for everybody. Not everyone will appreciate what it can do.
shadowdude777
Android Expert
90% battery life after a full day of using it? Yeah, that's probably the iPhone OS screwing up and giving him way-off battery readings. Either that or your brother's lying. OR he could have a power-plant in his back pocket attached to the phone. Either explanation would do.
As to why the apps don't close out, many phones don't do this! Windows Mobile didn't until WM6, I believe, and just like Android, they included a task-killing app. And then they gave you the option of holding down the X button to close and just tapping it to run it in the background. I think Android should do this. I don't really use the recent task feature you get from holding down the home button, and I think this would be a much better use of it.
You do NOT have to download a separate program with extensive features if you insist on using the crappy, oversimplified built-in task manager. But hey, what's extra functionality over the 5 seconds it takes you to search the program's name and click "Install"? I bet you're the kind of user who uses Internet Explorer because it's so hard and so difficult to go download Firefox or Chrome or Opera. Or you're the kind of user who would prefer to let Apple do everything for you, right?
As to why the apps don't close out, many phones don't do this! Windows Mobile didn't until WM6, I believe, and just like Android, they included a task-killing app. And then they gave you the option of holding down the X button to close and just tapping it to run it in the background. I think Android should do this. I don't really use the recent task feature you get from holding down the home button, and I think this would be a much better use of it.
You do NOT have to download a separate program with extensive features if you insist on using the crappy, oversimplified built-in task manager. But hey, what's extra functionality over the 5 seconds it takes you to search the program's name and click "Install"? I bet you're the kind of user who uses Internet Explorer because it's so hard and so difficult to go download Firefox or Chrome or Opera. Or you're the kind of user who would prefer to let Apple do everything for you, right?
whats that suppose to mean? what are you trying to say, i have the same phone as you why would yours run better than mine. i thought the point of this forum was to help each other out.Hmmm, about 1:30 off the charger, playing around in settings, uploaded a few pics to FB, and some other stuff.
Slapped it back on the usb cable and it say that it's fully charged!
Barbara
Android Expert
I can't answer it because I haven't had a problem with it. When I look at battery use, the apps are using 2%. The display is using 57%. I don't see the apps as a problem so I leave them alone.
shadowdude777
Android Expert
Menu button --> Settings --> Applications --> Running Services. Have fun. Sorry it's so difficult take a minute and go get something good.
syntrix
Android Expert
Most will quit, unless you have a widget active. I can't say I've seen the bar code scanner stuck in memory.
A LOT of apps, you have to click the menu soft icon at the bottom and close them, or stop the playing music for them to be unloaded. I like the feature, especially for streaming music apps. To me, this is different from winmo, but should be common to ex iPhone users.
But again, no idea on why your barcode scanner app stayed UNLESS it's locked to the gps for a little while, then goes away after a bit.
Really you don't. Android is set up to manage it for you. When you exit an app it's basically saved in it's current state and then closed out completely as it is no longer needed. Taskiller has color coding that shows if the app is taking up memory, running as a service, or as an active app.
The problem is developers. Some of them have their apps stop running altogether, some switch to a service, some have an exit button, some do not. The problem is not the OS, as it was built to natively manage your memory. The problem is that some developers aren't taking that into account. They develop apps that consume unnecessary battery, memory and resources. The smart ones are learning how to curtail this, the stupid ones just don't care.
The other problem is users. Some people want every app out there and don't look at what the app does. Some keep running in the background no matter what you do, bad app, bad developer, uninstall.
iPhone users carry a charger. The "Mid-day Charge" is something they got used to as phone owners. They just didn't complain enough about it for anyone outside of the mac echo chamber to hear about it. Google Mid-Day Charge and you'll find that it's a very real apple issue.
Battery Management issues:
Download Locale and have it turn off things you're not using, turn down the screen, change the screen timeout and get the plugin to turn off auto-sync when you don't need it.
If you know you're going to be at work and busy for more than 2 hours, turn your phone off. That will save battery.
Biggest battery drainers:
Screen Brightness
GPS
Bluetooth
AutoSync
Widgets
Hopefully seidio (or someone else) will make an extended battery for the droid like they did for the G1, I have a day and a half of use on my G1 with heavy heavy use and it only cost me 60 bucks to do so. Now I can use bluetooth and GPS whenever, I have my screen brightness up as high as I want, I stream pandora and listen on bluetooth for two hours over the course of a day and spend another hour watching videos with a bluetooth headphone set and I rarely get into the yellow. I haven't seen red in months.
syntrix
Android Expert
Post your list of apps installed!
I know there's a report of a widget that is not android 2.0 compliant that will drain the battery FAST.
wow, seriously man? like i said i thought the point of this forum was to help each other out. and for your information i use firefox, i have chrome, ive messed around with opera. i have both a mac and a pc and i porbabally know more about computers than you.90% battery life after a full day of using it? Yeah, that's probably the iPhone OS screwing up and giving him way-off battery readings. Either that or your brother's lying. OR he could have a power-plant in his back pocket attached to the phone. Either explanation would do.
As to why the apps don't close out, many phones don't do this! Windows Mobile didn't until WM6, I believe, and just like Android, they included a task-killing app. And then they gave you the option of holding down the X button to close and just tapping it to run it in the background. I think Android should do this. I don't really use the recent task feature you get from holding down the home button, and I think this would be a much better use of it.
You do NOT have to download a separate program with extensive features if you insist on using the crappy, oversimplified built-in task manager. But hey, what's extra functionality over the 5 seconds it takes you to search the program's name and click "Install"? I bet you're the kind of user who uses Internet Explorer because it's so hard and so difficult to go download Firefox or Chrome or Opera. Or you're the kind of user who would prefer to let Apple do everything for you, right?
Thank you that was really informational and made sense more than i can say about anyone else. Thanks for approaching it in a friendly manner as well. Thats how i started this thread then somehow it turned ugly.
shadowdude777
Android Expert
Well there's no way for us to help you with this because there's no problem here. Your brother's iPhone reports 90% at the end of the day. You believe that? Sometimes my Windows 7 netbook with a 3-cell battery reports that it's gonna get 5 hours and 23 minutes more runtime when it's at 29% (yes, this has happened before). Am I gonna just accept that it's right and complain about how my OTHER netbook only gets 2 hours from a full battery?
His battery read 90% at the end of the day because the iPhone's battery and battery reader is all screwy. My iPod Touch does that too. Your battery went down to 90% because again, the battery reader isn't perfect. If it reads 94% when the battery is at 99% it'll probably round down to 90%. The reader's deviation is only 5% which is totally acceptable.
i have:
Twidroid
Myspace
wifi/on/off
CardioTraining
The weather channel
Pandora
labyrinth(game)
Robo defenders(game)
fun towers
magic 8ball
shopsavvy
advanced task manager
ok thats much better. someone before did mention something about it being in increments of 10 that makes sense.
syntrix
Android Expert
I don't think I've installed any of those, except for shopsavvy.
Have you checked the list of "apps that don't work with droid" that is stickied here? And have you checked comments or the author's comments to see if it's 2.0 compliant? IIRC I didn't see a way to check in marketplace if it's 2.0 compliant.
We do have the latest android release, so there will probably be some app bugs here and there. I'm just trying to see if maybe some software is draining your battery fast.
Something is going on! We just need to try to track it down Like I said above, some use, data, uploads, etc for 1.5 hours, and then I plugged mine back in, and it said it was still fully charged.
Have you checked the list of "apps that don't work with droid" that is stickied here? And have you checked comments or the author's comments to see if it's 2.0 compliant? IIRC I didn't see a way to check in marketplace if it's 2.0 compliant.
We do have the latest android release, so there will probably be some app bugs here and there. I'm just trying to see if maybe some software is draining your battery fast.
Something is going on! We just need to try to track it down
Like I said above, some use, data, uploads, etc for 1.5 hours, and then I plugged mine back in, and it said it was still fully charged.I don't think I've installed any of those, except for shopsavvy.
Have you checked the list of "apps that don't work with droid" that is stickied here? And have you checked comments or the author's comments to see if it's 2.0 compliant? IIRC I didn't see a way to check in marketplace if it's 2.0 compliant.
We do have the latest android release, so there will probably be some app bugs here and there. I'm just trying to see if maybe some software is draining your battery fast.
Something is going on! We just need to try to track it down
yea maybe your right about that. i didnt check to see if any of them were compliant with 2.0. do you think that would cause it to drain faster?
CRPercodani
OFWGKTA
Well coming from a G1 and iPhone 3G before that, I will say that the Droid's battery has been very impressive so far. I used the Google GPS for a 3 hour trip to Albany, NY, recorded about 15 minutes of video, did a little over a hour of web browsing, a ton of GTalk convo's, a few calls (maybe 45 minutes worth), and watched 2 episodes of 30 Rock. That left me with 23% battery, BTW I took it off the charger at 6:30am and it is currently 9:53pm and I haven't had to plug it in yet.
My G1 wouldn't have a snowflakes chance in hell of even doing half that without needing a charge. The iPhone 3G would have been closer to about 10%, but wouldn't quite be dead yet, although that is un-jailbroken, as jailbroken would be a whole other story....it would be d e a d. I have had a ton of smartphones (Moto Q, HTC Apache, Nokia N95, HTC Touch Pro) and the only one out of all those that had a decent battery was the N95, but I would still take the Droid's battery over it.
Now Android is designed to not really need a task killer, using them can actually mess with the way it stores recent info and how quickly apps will load back up (I know someone else here can explain better then me how it works). Some apps can be closed by hitting the menu button, most don't need to be closed and shouldn't have any adverse effects on your battery unless they were poorly made.
And yeah we are mostly here to help each other out, but, when you make an insane statement like "My brother has an iphone he told me after messing around with it browsing sites and on the phone for an average day he never goes below 90%." you are gonna get some negative comments and be heavily questioned on the validity of that. If a average day is 20 minutes of browsing and 10 calls then maybe it could be looked at as true, but the true average day of a smartphone user is much much more. And I know your brother told you that but that still doesn't make it true.
My G1 wouldn't have a snowflakes chance in hell of even doing half that without needing a charge. The iPhone 3G would have been closer to about 10%, but wouldn't quite be dead yet, although that is un-jailbroken, as jailbroken would be a whole other story....it would be d e a d. I have had a ton of smartphones (Moto Q, HTC Apache, Nokia N95, HTC Touch Pro) and the only one out of all those that had a decent battery was the N95, but I would still take the Droid's battery over it.
Now Android is designed to not really need a task killer, using them can actually mess with the way it stores recent info and how quickly apps will load back up (I know someone else here can explain better then me how it works). Some apps can be closed by hitting the menu button, most don't need to be closed and shouldn't have any adverse effects on your battery unless they were poorly made.
And yeah we are mostly here to help each other out, but, when you make an insane statement like "My brother has an iphone he told me after messing around with it browsing sites and on the phone for an average day he never goes below 90%." you are gonna get some negative comments and be heavily questioned on the validity of that. If a average day is 20 minutes of browsing and 10 calls then maybe it could be looked at as true, but the true average day of a smartphone user is much much more. And I know your brother told you that but that still doesn't make it true.
It doesn't seem to allow you to dictate which apps you want to enable auto sync and which you ones you don't need. If you disable auto sync it kills the gmail sync function, wtf?? I would like to only sync gmail data, unless the auto sync is only applicable to the gmail app?
I hear ya, everyone's average day of use is different and his may as well have been 10 calls and 2 hours online im not sure. i just know after using mine yesterday browsing and making a few calls no more than average for me it seemed that the battery wnet pretty fast. i was on the navi maybe 10 mins i made maybe 10 to 15 calls no more than a minute though. i messed around and got some apps nothing crazy like your day of use.
Do you think that it could because the first day i got it i wasnt able to let it charge fully before using it? But it died and then i allowed it to charge fully before using.
does anyone have that disabled as well, or should i keep that on?
syntrix
Android Expert
Or we need a 1% battery driver, since we have only 10% increments. Might be worth a shot to drain the battery, then do a full charge. Keep an eye on things over the next few days!
digitard
Member
It even tells you it will improve battery life, but it's really a feature up to you.
I don't need quick facebook updates, or any application updates. I will refresh them when I check it. The only concern would be if you do a lot of emailing, and cutting off your auto-email updates may be an issue.
I, personally, dont worry about that as the email tied to my phone is for friends, and my "critical" email notifies me of new messages via SMS anyhow so I just dont need it.
It's helped out my battery quite a bit.