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~1500 bucks for a new PC

My HP Pavilion's fan is almost dead silent all the time, which means it's not working very hard, which means I might able to overclock it? But I've never wandered there and might get lost.

...just looking for a way to wait for Win9 as quickly as possible.

I mean Overclocking is always an option, you just need to be careful. You can push the CPU and GPU up a little bit to the point where you notice improvements without having to do anything except up the core speeds. However, if you up the core clock speeds too much you will have to up voltage, and that's where things can get a little hairy.
 
I've come to believe that the possible reward, if any, is not likely to be worth the risk. And in my case, the risk is all the more prevalent -- it's just the sort of thing I'd botch.
 
I've come to believe that the possible reward, if any, is not likely to be worth the risk. And in my case, the risk is all the more prevalent -- it's just the sort of thing I'd botch.

I mean you just need to be careful.

You can't push the CPU or GPU too much. You can definitely get some overclocking guides from Tom's Hardware, it's a nice place where computer savvy people tend to hang out.
 
Ok, a couple of things.

That dell optiplex 780 is not a good idea. We had a few of them at UEI college, and other than barely supporting the hardware virtualization support needed for a modern virtualbox experience, you can still tell the age. Plus their built-in graphics support seems about on par with what onboard quality was in 2003. :(

Second, overclocking is a bit hit and miss, heavily depending on what CPU, mobo, RAM, GPU, and cooling you have.

For example, some chips, like mine, an AMD E-1200 APU, are clocked completely below what they can actually handle. Stock clock is 1.4ghz, but you can boost that to 2.3ghz on stock cooling alone, with tempertures under load being about 65c. That's roughly a 90% overclock.

Then there's my wife's system, running an AMD A8-3500m APU quad core with stock clock at 1.5ghz, and 8GB of RAM. Very similar to one of the system's you were considering. Turns out, after I did a little investigating, the A-series APU's have a "turbo boost" mode where they auto-overclock, if need be. In my wife's case it goes from 1.5 > 2.4Ghz without telling you, under load. Needless to say, that little fact made my wife happy that her system can indeed handle sims 4. I'm just glad I don't have to buy her a new laptop for one game. :p

These are both cases where the manufacturer purposesly does not run the chip at its theorectical full power in order to make it a cheaper, (crappier?) component. In turn, it makes it look like the chip is a candidate for massive overclocking stunts.

Other chips come stock right out of the factory clocked as fast as the manufacturer knows it can go. Those are the ones where overclocking capacity is very little on stock cooling. I think the 3.0ghz P4 chips are in this category, as I remember the reason intel stopped the clockspeed wars with this chip due to it just failing after 3ghz, considering it a literal dead end and going on to create the more modern coreduo/core2duo/core iX architecture.

That being said, I haven't done much research on overclocking P4's, as their age may mean the overclocking may not matter if they simplely can't do enough instructions per clock to handle modern multithreaded software.
 
Appreciate all these replies. All of them, with a mere breath, have talked me out of whatever I bump into, like this at Tiger:

Dell Optiplex 755 Desktop PC (tower only) - (Off Lease)
Price: $399.99
Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit
Memory Size 4GB
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
Processor Speed 2.4GHz
Hard Disk Capacity 1TB
GPU/VPU Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3100

Does 'off lease' mean it was leased from Tiger, but now returned, refurbed and posted for sale? If so, I guess that phrase is an automatic clue of its age.

...just looking for the magic combination of specs and also killing time, apparently.
 
I suppose if I really wanted to modernize, I could ditch Windows and Distros and just get cloudy: LG Chromebase Celeron (Haswell) 2GB DDR3L 16GB SSD (Sandisk) HDD 21.5" All-in-One Google Chrome OS... $329.99
 
Appreciate all these replies. All of them, with a mere breath, have talked me out of whatever I bump into, like this at Tiger:

Dell Optiplex 755 Desktop PC (tower only) - (Off Lease)
Price: $399.99
Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit
Memory Size 4GB
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
Processor Speed 2.4GHz
Hard Disk Capacity 1TB
GPU/VPU Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3100

Does 'off lease' mean it was leased from Tiger, but now returned, refurbed and posted for sale? If so, I guess that phrase is an automatic clue of its age.

...just looking for the magic combination of specs and also killing time, apparently.

This actually isn't that bad, that price is pretty darn good. That laptop should last you a decent amount of time. Just make sure to not game too much on it, that Video card isn't great and will probably burn out the system is it is overused.

I suppose if I really wanted to modernize, I could ditch Windows and Distros and just get cloudy: LG Chromebase Celeron (Haswell) 2GB DDR3L 16GB SSD (Sandisk) HDD 21.5" All-in-One Google Chrome OS... $329.99

I mean depends on what you need to do. I have a Chrome OS, I literally only use it for school, and it works out really well.

I mostly browse the web and do some work with google docs and other misc. things. The capabilities just aren't as broad as Windows, be aware of that. :)

Otherwise it's pretty fast and smooth.
 
This actually isn't that bad, that price is pretty darn good. That laptop should last you a decent amount of time.

Actually it's just a desktop tower, no monitor, but I think it still has nice numbers... do you?

I mean depends on what you need to do. I have a Chrome OS

Having already learned that I'm too entrenched in Windows to switch to, say, Linux Mint, I think the same would apply to Chrome OS -- I could do it if I had to, but I don't have to so I won't.
 
Does 'off lease' mean it was leased from Tiger, but now returned, refurbed and posted for sale? If so, I guess that phrase is an automatic clue of its age.

Found that the answer is yes:

The term "Off-Lease" refers to a product that has been leased to, and used by, a customer, then returned to the leasing agent at the end of the lease period (typically 2 to 3 years).

So everything Tiger shows as Off-Lease means it's probably getting ancient.
 
Did a little checking and the Intel Q6600 was released in 2007 and many of the reviews I've found for the Optiplex 755 are from 2008, so this could easily be a 6-year-old box. Dell's product life cycle is usually 12-18 months so these weren't made much past 2009.
 
I suggest to build your own,I built mine that I have I have now(Desktop)for less than $500.00.
I try to buy all my pc stuff @ Micro Center & Directron.com.Plus Directron has customs builds too.
Micro Center has great Intel & AMD Motherboard/CPU Combo deals.
 
I'd stay far, FAR away from the celeron processor line. I don't care how far it's come, it's still made by gimping current gen intel mainline designs. You'd probably get better performance with a higher clocked first gen core duo, and you know how ancient those are these days.
 
Appreciate the information! Lunatic's XW6600 appears to be leading the pack at this point. I might order it just to get this endless search over with, but I'm sure someone or something else will lead me astray before I do.
 
Appreciate the information! Lunatic's XW6600 appears to be leading the pack at this point. I might order it just to get this endless search over with, but I'm sure someone or something else will lead me astray before I do.

While it still represents older tech, how can you argue with a quad core xeon, 4 GB ram, Nvidia graphics and a 500 GB disk for $250?

If you look at the spec sheet, you can expand this to 32 GB ram if you were inclined, but 4 should be plenty. In stock now ... Just buy the darn thing. ;)
 
how can you argue with a quad core xeon, 4 GB ram, Nvidia graphics and a 500 GB disk for $250?

With this -- same thing with 8GB ram for another fifty bucks.

Just buy the darn thing.

Hard to believe, but:
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Well, I didn't spend 1500 bucks as I originally surmised... it took a lot of pondering and a lot of help from y'all.
 
Windows Home...eeeww

I glanced over a list of differences between it and Pro, didn't see anything crucial in my case, so I'm not gonna worry about that. Got enough to worry about with 64-bit on the way.
 
The only thing I miss in home vs pro is the absence of a native remote desktop host. Easily solved with a VNC server. Good luck!
 
I suppose if you've never accessed a PC remotely, you'll never miss it. ;)

I have several work desktop locations and sync as much as I can to a central NAS (private cloud, if you will) but i invariably will need one file or another from a location I am not at. All of the office locations are Win 7 Pro on a domain with encrypted VPN connections so remoting into those machines is naver any problem, but at home I am off the domain with Win 7 Home so I needed a way to log on securely. Yeah, RealVNC is a decent program.
 
I routinely access pc's using Remote Desktop (formerly Terminal Services :rolleyes:) over VPN. Since RD is encrypted and so is the VPN, the data stream is encrypted twice. ;)
 
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