History has nothing to do with his story, I believe you'll find a Greek word at its root, historia.
And the speed of light isn't a speed.
http://androidforums.com/lounge/232523-hang-tight-speed-light.html#post1972035
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History has nothing to do with his story, I believe you'll find a Greek word at its root, historia.
And the speed of light isn't a speed.
http://androidforums.com/lounge/232523-hang-tight-speed-light.html#post1972035
Frisco
=Luceat Lux Vestra=
I've had a few challenges trying to explain that here and there, EM. Good job in your linked post!
It doesn't help that science fiction writers and even "journalists" often give us scenarios wherein a rocket ship has special accelerators which can enable it to travel at certain percentages of the speed of light, this cutting the travel time to a distant star, etc, by that percentage.
More explanation is needed. I want to know how many Louis L'amour novels I'm going to need to tide me over on my trip to the distant side of M31.
Maybe because that was the system the Mayans came from?... Maybe the Mayan calendar predicted the end of the world on planets around that star.
What if were proclaimed as true by God?
You say you can, but where's your proof?!?
A woman's, WTF does handbags and shoes have to do with astrophysics?
Not sure Tony's story is relevant either??
...or to put it the other way; how far through space did man come to get to Earth???
Or maybe they can, if only you were open to that possibility.
Hopefully it'll coincide just right with the seasons to give weeks of extra sunshine, and an awesome vintage year for wines
and a good melon harvest... I love big melons ( . )( . )
Frisco - two.
The other one is for the trip back.
The other one is for the trip back.
A.Nonymous
Extreme Android User
No offense, but since when is accepting tested scientific facts "close minded"?
davidnmegan6907
Android Expert
I understand the root of history..but look at what history really is. Its a someone(s) version of what happened at a certian time. I just wanted to clear up that I understand where the word comes from but that wasnt my meaning. But now like I said Im done. I really love this place and think I help out quiet a bit in the device forum that I use and do not want to compromise getting to use it over a silly debate on a thread that was started to humor, as : "vegas on acid" and "frisco" were able to understand. I really do like everyone on here but I have a different outlook on believing everything that schools/educational books have to say. So in that I want to just leave it alone. I would like to take time to apologize if I have upset anyone and say I hope everyone has a great day
Frisco
=Luceat Lux Vestra=
I think that is a healthy approach.
Sorting it all takes a lot of time, probably more time than the average person has to spare.
Perhaps some day there will be a history app that lets us view it on our (probably Android
) devices as it was actually happening.In the case of conflict, and there have been many, the history is written by the victor.
A.Nonymous
Extreme Android User
There are some things in educational books that deserve questioning. The scientific laws of the universe that have been tested for (sometimes) hundreds of years don't need questioning.
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Perhaps some day there will be a history app that lets us view it on our (probably Android
Twitter/facebook?
davidnmegan6907
Android Expert
david - Wasn't intending to rag on you about the word history, apologies if I worded that poorly. I always point that out - many people actually believe that's how that word was formed. I did your get your point - it's a point of view, not necessarily the truth but a working theory.
The light thing I thought you'd find interesting.
How will we advance if we don't? That's how we got string theory, m-theory and a lot of other interesting stuff.
The light thing I thought you'd find interesting.
How will we advance if we don't? That's how we got string theory, m-theory and a lot of other interesting stuff.
Frisco
=Luceat Lux Vestra=
lol .. yeah.. I want to see the Gonzo Journalist as he was in action, not as he was written about.
A.Nonymous
Extreme Android User
If you come up with a new hypothesis and new research and want to re-visit universally held constants in light of that new hypothesis/research that's one thing. To question a universal constant just for the sake of questioning it is quite asinine. The beauty of science is that we can know things for certain. That's the beauty in the scientific method. If properly applied, it reveals truth.
Measuring the Speed of Light
And the speed of light is only constant in a vacuum.
Calculating distance does take some legerdemain - http://www.atlasoftheuniverse.com/redshift.html
And the speed of light is only constant in a vacuum.
Calculating distance does take some legerdemain - http://www.atlasoftheuniverse.com/redshift.html
A.Nonymous
Extreme Android User
Well, that much is a given. No one in their right mind would question that.
Yeah - my daughter and her coworkers say the same thing about the importance of protein outcomes when discussing gene sequencing, and I barely follow their conversations as it is.
Just saying, obvious to one is obscure to another.
Just saying, obvious to one is obscure to another.
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Dark Jedi
Guest
that way when it happens they can say see we told you it would,
A.Nonymous
Extreme Android User
Fair enough I guess. I think it says something about our educational system. To me it's something that should be basic high school science. Don't ask me to do any gene sequencing stuff. I tried that once and it didn't end well. Ended up with a kid who could shoot lasers out of his eyes and another guy with freaking claws. Scary stuff.
Vihzel
Destroying Balls Everyday
In the realm of science, always be a bit skepticle. For hundreds of years the beliefs of Aristotle was the norm in the science world until Galileo started really challenging those beliefs with his different way of thinking. For scientific theories like evolution though... its a safe bet to call it fact considering that there is really no substantial evidence on the contrary. But still... something could be discovered 100 years from now that changes how the world view things, like with Newtons and Einsteins findings.
JunBringer
Android Expert
I need to buy some suns block.
Snedd
Well-Known Member
Personally I think the beauty of science is that we can never be sure we know anything for certain. I'm pretty sure there has been serious debate about whether the speed of light, and other physical constants, have changed over time, or if they change with location on a cosmological scale.
"Learn from science that you must doubt the experts!" - Richard Feynman
[Edit - a bit off topic, but this thread got me thinking about weird physics]
Back in the late 70s or early 80s the SF writer Philip K Dick kept a diary called his "Exegesis" in which he rambles on quite a bit about the universe being a hologram. Extracts from it are at the end of his novel Valis. PKD often claimed that the stuff he wrote in his Exegesis came from visions he was having.
Then in the mid nineties, guess what, physicists Gerard't Hooft and Leonard Susskind came up with the theory that quantum mechanics and gravity can be reconciled more easily if the universe is thought of as a hologram ('t Hooft won the Nobel prize in 1999 before anyone cries fringe science!).
Not sure what point I'm trying to make but as PKD fan this always struck me as a bit weird and plus one for the crazy SF writers!
Snedd
Well-Known Member
Still off topic but... there's a really good article on arstechnica today that does a nice job of explaining the holographic principle, the physics of black holes, and why gravity might turn out to be a fictitious force. Interesting reading if you're into all things physics. Very balanced too as it gives some of the counter arguments as well.
Is gravity not actually a force? Forcing theory to meet experiments
Is gravity not actually a force? Forcing theory to meet experiments
Bob Maxey
Android Expert
Thank you. I am so tired of hearing these silly His Story, why not Her story arguments.
Thanks again
Bob
