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" A Fake iPhone "

KING LUFF

Well-Known Member
Oh deer.....

It's already started! Someone just shouted across the office "what is that a fake iPhone"

I'm going to have lots of fun today showing just how much better this device is than an iPhone :)
 
Lol.

The biggest draw back for me on an iphone is it can't view flash websites. Every iphone fanboi I speak to just shrugs there shoulders.
 
most people that say the old quip "is that an iphone" are just poorly educated you cant blame them
apple success is built on great advertising so "most" of the general public dont know there are any touch screen phones apart from the iphone
 
most people that say the old quip "is that an iphone" are just poorly educated you cant blame them
apple success is built on great advertising so "most" of the general public dont know there are any touch screen phones apart from the iphone

just like the ties when we get the "hoover" out and its actually a "dyson"
 
There's 101 phones out there that are all-black with a chrome finish around the front edge perimeter, iphone is most known for it, although I don't think they started it.
Hate it when people ask if your phone is an iphone.
Yes. I'll sell it to you for 250.
 
That's just someone feeling insecure: someone's bought something different from what they have.

It's the same reason people who conform to fashion trends want to mock people who don't. They want others to justify their decisions instead of themselves.

I feel sorry for them! (sort of)
 
To be honest, I don't think an iPhone 4 user (at least) will ever admit that a phone is better than theirs....simply because that's the apple way... Make it one way, minimal customisations, minimal "things" to actually do on the phone...and then (for some reason unknown to me) everyone will just flock to Apple stores and just mould themselves into the phone.

That's why I've always LOVED Symbian (at least 5 years ago) and now Android because they just allow YOU to customize the phone, how you like it. :)
 
To be honest, I don't think an iPhone 4 user (at least) will ever admit that a phone is better than theirs....simply because that's the apple way...

Yes this is very true. My better half however said yesterday that she wanted to swap her iPhone 4 for my phone and that's quite something as she represents a large portion of users who just simply bought it because everyone else had one. Android has passed a massive milestone with the Galaxy S2 IMO
 
Yes this is very true. My better half however said yesterday that she wanted to swap her iPhone 4 for my phone and that's quite something as she represents a large portion of users who just simply bought it because everyone else had one. Android has passed a massive milestone with the Galaxy S2 IMO

true, although in my opinion the HTC desire was equally as "appealing" (externally) as the iPhone 4 but most people don't see it that way.
 
The end-to-end customer experience with Apple really is outstanding. You can buy an Apple designed phone, from Apple, supported by Apple, running an Apple OS. There's not finger pointing and confusion between the OEM (hardware), another party (the core OS), and the service provider (who tweaks/FUs an otherwise terrific OS).

While iOS doesn't allow for much UI customization, the actual functionality of the phone combined with the apps is terrific, and since the app UIs are much more consistent, the whole app experience is better. The component quality on the iP4 is also terrific: the display, the camera optics, etc.

The iTunes management model has some things that seriously need to be corrected/changed, but there's a nice elegant simplicity to how it works too. The Wifey plugs her iP4 into her MBP, iPhoto syncs, catalogs and tags the photos, iMovie does the same with video and the phone is automatically backed up and the OS is updated as needed (and since there's only a single source for the OS, patches/updates are doled out at regular intervals.

I'm a huge fan of Android and I'm even prototyping some apps to extend one of our enterprise solutions, but I also recognize why Apple is incredibly successful - it's part brand equity which can become knee jerk brand fanaticism, but there's some really legitimate reasons too.
 
The end-to-end customer experience with Apple really is outstanding. You can buy an Apple designed phone, from Apple, supported by Apple, running an Apple OS. There's not finger pointing and confusion between the OEM (hardware), another party (the core OS), and the service provider (who tweaks/FUs an otherwise terrific OS).

While iOS doesn't allow for much UI customization, the actual functionality of the phone combined with the apps is terrific, and since the app UIs are much more consistent, the whole app experience is better. The component quality on the iP4 is also terrific: the display, the camera optics, etc.

The iTunes management model has some things that seriously need to be corrected/changed, but there's a nice elegant simplicity to how it works too. The Wifey plugs her iP4 into her MBP, iPhoto syncs, catalogs and tags the photos, iMovie does the same with video and the phone is automatically backed up and the OS is updated as needed (and since there's only a single source for the OS, patches/updates are doled out at regular intervals.

I'm a huge fan of Android and I'm even prototyping some apps to extend one of our enterprise solutions, but I also recognize why Apple is incredibly successful - it's part brand equity which can become knee jerk brand fanaticism, but there's some really legitimate reasons too.

Completely true...which is what Jobs realised in the market and filled it with Apple. Although personally for me...I would literally just get bored if everything was so uni-brand. Hence I love Android and my Desire as my main device and love my 2G iTouch as my 'secondary' and easy music/app store device. :)
 
true, although in my opinion the HTC desire was equally as "appealing" (externally) as the iPhone 4 but most people don't see it that way.

Very true. Do you have a GS2 by any chance? just wondering because i held my Desire in one hand and my GS2 in the other and the desire feels sooooo old now it's untrue. The screen, the weight, everything about the Galaxy is just class.

I think HTC (the once pioneering Android handset maker) has let themselves down a little in recent months. The sensation just didn't tickle me like the desire did last year.

Samsung nailed it this time round
 
Although personally for me...I would literally just get bored if everything was so uni-brand. Hence I love Android and my Desire as my main device and love my 2G iTouch as my 'secondary' and easy music/app store device. :)

Same here, I like a little bit of everything, which is why we have a couple of iOS devices, Android, Winders
 
Very true. Do you have a GS2 by any chance? just wondering because i held my Desire in one hand and my GS2 in the other and the desire feels sooooo old now it's untrue. The screen, the weight, everything about the Galaxy is just class.

I think HTC (the once pioneering Android handset maker) has let themselves down a little in recent months. The sensation just didn't tickle me like the desire did last year.

Samsung nailed it this time round

I think it's part of a wider strategy (like with our Desire's) to make they SUPER CHEAP as soon as the iPhone comes out to make them competitive.

And sadly no.:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

On my dad's business contract with T-mobile <-----:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

My upgrade is due....but I've gotta wait till June when T-mobile get it in...
I've considered Sim-free but my business contract has a really good warranty and 6 month battery warranty (which I'll most likely call in) and well....it would be a waste of money when I actually have a free upgrade waiting...


But i'll always love my Desire...first experience of android and was my phone directly after (MAKING THE EPIC MISTAKE of getting a nokia N97....ewwwwww) :P
 
The end-to-end customer experience with Apple really is outstanding. You can buy an Apple designed phone, from Apple, supported by Apple, running an Apple OS. There's not finger pointing and confusion between the OEM (hardware), another party (the core OS), and the service provider (who tweaks/FUs an otherwise terrific OS).

Absolutely agree. This is probably the biggest draw to the iPhone. It..just..works.

While iOS doesn't allow for much UI customization, the actual functionality of the phone combined with the apps is terrific, and since the app UIs are much more consistent, the whole app experience is better. The component quality on the iP4 is also terrific: the display, the camera optics, etc.

I think more recently Apple's quality control is being questioned. What was that comment about the white and black iphones having the same dimensions according to Cupertino, but clearly the white phone is thicker? A picture is worth a thousand words, even if it disputes a claim made by Apple.

The iTunes management model has some things that seriously need to be corrected/changed, but there's a nice elegant simplicity to how it works too. The Wifey plugs her iP4 into her MBP, iPhoto syncs, catalogs and tags the photos, iMovie does the same with video and the phone is automatically backed up and the OS is updated as needed (and since there's only a single source for the OS, patches/updates are doled out at regular intervals.

Yep, it just works, setting aside that trolling the App Store is more expensive than the Android Market.

I'm a huge fan of Android and I'm even prototyping some apps to extend one of our enterprise solutions, but I also recognize why Apple is incredibly successful - it's part brand equity which can become knee jerk brand fanaticism, but there's some really legitimate reasons too.

I have no desire to own one, but I would have definitely gotten one for my wife. But Apple continues to demand premiums for substandard hardware, and the Verizon iPhone 4 is a perfect example. $199 on contract? Are you kidding me? 9 months old? I got her a Samsung Continuum for the nice price of FREE on contract and it was only 4 months old (since release). She's very happy with it, but it just means I have to provide her support since she's not very technical.

The premium pricing isn't the only issue. It's the rationing of upgrades and the expectation that the user base should continually pay premiums for the incremental upgrades. Their stuff is ridiculously expensive and they love to obsolete it fairly quickly. And what was with the slight design change between the Verizon and AT&T iphones so that accessories had to be retooled? Their whole business model reeks of taking advantage of ignorant consumers, and it's downright slimy IMO.
 
I have no desire to own one, but I would have definitely gotten one for my wife. But Apple continues to demand premiums for substandard hardware, and the Verizon iPhone 4 is a perfect example. $199 on contract? Are you kidding me? 9 months old? I got her a Samsung Continuum for the nice price of FREE on contract and it was only 4 months old (since release). She's very happy with it, but it just means I have to provide her support since she's not very technical.

The premium pricing isn't the only issue. It's the rationing of upgrades and the expectation that the user base should continually pay premiums for the incremental upgrades. Their stuff is ridiculously expensive and they love to obsolete it fairly quickly. And what was with the slight design change between the Verizon and AT&T iphones so that accessories had to be retooled? Their whole business model reeks of taking advantage of ignorant consumers, and it's downright slimy IMO.

On that note, and this REALLY ANNOYED ME, is that Apple KNEW THEY had those connectivity issues....yet they still release the phone and denied it....before eventually admitting it. And it just annoys me how their 'social status' allows them to do this. Any other manufacturer did something like that...THEY WOULD GET SLATED AND A LOT of outrage...But at Apple, it all just fades away like nothing happened...

Mini rant over. :P
 
But Apple continues to demand premiums for substandard hardware

The price isn't just the hardware. Like my opening paragraph that you quoted and agreed with, part of cost of the "premium" for better service/support/ease-of-use.

Like you said:

She's very happy with it, but it just means I have to provide her support since she's not very technical.

The cheaper phone is offset by "costing" you more time. :) My wife has been through a couple of OS updates, keeps her media totally up to date (and does some incredible stuff with iMovie), backs up her data, etc., all on her own.

She was up at the Town Center and was having a glitch, popped into the Apple store and they corrected the problem and sent her on her way in ~10 minutes. She came home (the phone had been totally restored to OOTB status) and got all her apps, data, etc., back up and running perfect without any intervention from me.

In my book, that has value (I happen to be in DC at the time, so she was totally on her own).

Some folks that drive a Corvette don't get why someone would drive a Porsche C4S that's almost twice price with only about 75% of the measured performance.

I enjoy being able to be a fan of both Android and iOS (and a fan of both Corvette and Porsche [I realize model vs. brand]) :)
 
I was very close to getting the IP4, but I am so glad I didn't. Even playing around at work mine can do loads more than the iphone!

It's a great phone - if anything goes wrong you can be sure I'll come here to have a winge!
 
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