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Help Amazing/Horrid Camera - Pet Peeve

Someone who knows more about the hardware, please correct me if I'm wrong.

But I think it's the camera APPLICATION that's sub-par, not the hardware itself.

I've noticed that Shop Savvy doesn't have too much trouble reading barcodes, so if the camera was crap, something like that wouldn't work as well as it does.

I'm sure once pay options show up there will be camera apps that do a much better job that what we got here. Seems like people would freak out if there wasn't a camera, so they erred on making it very basic so that a dev could rock it out later.
 
Doubt it. The sensor has poor light sensitivity, that's why the pictures come out blurry. Barcodes are meant to be read by the most simple of detectors, that's why they work well.
 
The autofocus is what takes time. Maybe a button to disable it or make it infinite would be nice.
 
Not necessarily. After you get the green dot and hit the button, there still is a substantial delay until you hear the shutter sound (which accurately represents when the pic is really being taken)
 
I overall give 2 thumbs down to the camera as it is... I pray help is on the way by way of an app somewhere.

However, I have had some success at getting the shutter to close faster when I hold the shoot button for varying lengths. A quick click almost always gives the 4 second focus shoot drill... but a longer hold on the button seems to shorten that time to at least half the time. Give it a try.
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Initially it seemed to me the camera button is not very responsive. I can get it to start the camera app, but could not for the life of me take a photo. I found that clicking the trackball is much more responsive, it always takes a photo, but there is no way to do the pre-focus (green dot on screen), it just focuses and takes a photo right after, it takes about 2-3 seconds. I then found out that if the screen is slid open, the camera button becomes much more responsive. Give it a solid push takes a picture just like clicking the track ball, without pre-focus. Touching it lightly starts the pre-focus function, and clicking it again solidly takes a picture within 1-2 seconds. I got this result at night indoors with some lighting, but bright enough to read comfortably. I hope there is something in the software that makes the camera button irresponsive with the screen closed, and not an issue with the HW.
 
TheLineUp said:
yup .. the camera is so slow.. but there is a way to be fast.. if you want it to be fast.. take the pic with the truckball, but that will have no focus.. try it!!
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it still does focus even if you use the truckball[sic], and not only that.. using it is also the same as tapping the photo button.. it doesn't make taking pictures faster.
 
Want a beautiful picture with the G1 - take a landscape shot during the day outside. Take a still life in a well lit room.

Want a horrid experience - try taking a photo of a child, animal moving, or anything else that won't be perfectly still. Try taking a photo in place with slightly bad lighting, darker.

While I know that most cameras on phones aren't great, I would give up some megapixel action for no delay when snapping shots, and this isn't a write to memory delay, this is a camera can't figure out what/how to process delay when you TRY to press the shutter button and the photo fires sometimes 7 seconds later. That is really not capturing anything of value.

Other camera phones take really nice photos WHEN you click, not delayed.

And let's not even get into the lack of a flash (LED), zoom, settings for the camera or video (done to death).
 
I believe some of that is being addressed in the next update (as per the "Cupcake" threads in News & Talk).
 
I agree they "say" it is. But as I have learned from the sidekick, often times the hardware is a limiting factor...for example zoom and flash are probably unlikely to ever be in play on the g1.
 
Since the htc camera settings have helped a great deal over the years on WM phones, I am hopefully that Google can help the G1 camera :)
 
I agree. This is the whole reason I registered on this forum, to try and make some sense of this camera. It has some good potential, but at times it drives me nuts. It is as if the ISO is set at 50. Impossible to take a picture of anything moving at that film speed.

One thing that helped me, I push the shutter button and immediately release it. Cuts the capture time down considerably. Before that I would find myself holding the shutter button for upwards of 20 seconds. While not a fix, it does speed things up a bit.
 
If you half press it like other cameras you get a "lock in" which is symbolized by a green dot. But I will try and skip that and just click fast.
 
dkaufman1 said:
I agree they "say" it is. But as I have learned from the sidekick, often times the hardware is a limiting factor...for example zoom and flash are probably unlikely to ever be in play on the g1.
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Unlikely is an understatment. Thats because its a fixed lens and it has no flash. So never is more realistic.

Though I could see a clever hardware manufactuor (or some kit-bash kiddies) making a USB LED "camera flash" to stick in the end of the phone.

I bet people would complain about the sound quality if their camera had a phone in it. :P
 
You can also try the SnapPhoto app. It stabilizes itself before taking a picture to reduce blurriness. It still wouldn't help too much with moving objects though. I really hope they fix these camera issues because I hate having to take a picture over because it came out blurry.
 
dkaufman1 said:
Want a beautiful picture with the G1 - take a landscape shot during the day outside. Take a still life in a well lit room.

Want a horrid experience - try taking a photo of a child, animal moving, or anything else that won't be perfectly still. Try taking a photo in place with slightly bad lighting, darker.

While I know that most cameras on phones aren't great, I would give up some megapixel action for no delay when snapping shots, and this isn't a write to memory delay, this is a camera can't figure out what/how to process delay when you TRY to press the shutter button and the photo fires sometimes 7 seconds later. That is really not capturing anything of value.

Other camera phones take really nice photos WHEN you click, not delayed.

And let's not even get into the lack of a flash (LED), zoom, settings for the camera or video (done to death).
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How many cameras do you know have an "autodetect ISO" that knows when you are trying to take a photo of a mental child running around, or a bird flying into your toilet? Not even a $5000 camera has that. Stop acting insane and try to relax :-:P
 
GODMODE said:
How many cameras do you know have an "autodetect ISO" that knows when you are trying to take a photo of a mental child running around, or a bird flying into your toilet? Not even a $5000 camera has that. Stop acting insane and try to relax :-:P
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What, your camera dosn't have an "auto detect bird flying into toilet" setting?
 
@godmode - I think snapphoto should be the type of app that would ship standard. That was all I meant.

As for motion capture shots - my point was this - when I am not outside, and the lighting is slightly dim, a quick press of the shutter doesn't take a photo. That delay is quite annoying. It should be my fault if the lighting sucks, not the camera trying to figure out what to do.

As for toilet cam's gizmodo runs a story about that once every few weeks.
 
yes the cam is under developed and not the best but if it is possable to increase the shutter speed or disable auto focus then I think better pictures could be possable.

and as for the arguement of buying a dig cam for picture taking, that is all good. But 90% of the time i do not have my dig cam with me and most of the pics i get come from my phone...
 
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