nickdalzell
Extreme Android User
i bet you've heard of it though.
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Android 4.4.4. coming soon
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androidlover9
Android Enthusiast
KLP sounds better than kitkat does
I've never heard of it actually... it sounds good though.
Oh, and looks like I was right on the next version of Android!
Google Nexus 8 to release with Android 4.5 Lollipop in July 2014? | Christian News on Christian Today
Didn't 4.4 come out in November? Wow...
nickdalzell
Extreme Android User
i heard they are calling 4.5 the Key Lime Pie name. but i think both those are merely rumors. if one wants lollipops get the iPhone 5C with hideously skittle-themed iOS 7. good GOD i don't see how anyone can take iOS 7 seriously....how ironic that Apple goes to crap soon as Steve Jobs died.
If iOS 7 isn't too colorful or My Little Pony looking, try launching one of the stock apps like Notes or Calendar, and what you see looks like it came straight out of Aperture Laboratories...
If iOS 7 isn't too colorful or My Little Pony looking, try launching one of the stock apps like Notes or Calendar, and what you see looks like it came straight out of Aperture Laboratories...
androidlover9
Android Enthusiast
I kinda like the colourfulness of iOS 7, but it's trying to be like android... (multitasking windows, control panel thing, etc)
You know what's kinda ironic? Steve Jobs died on my birthday...
I never did like Apple... well, I always wanted an ipod touch, but when I got my galaxy S3, I discovered the best thing known to man, ANDROID!
You know, if anything those whites in kitkat make all the new phones look dated rather than modern XD
androidlover9
Android Enthusiast
True, maybe they'll just call it lime pie... who knows?
nickdalzell
Extreme Android User
ironically, the Samsung Galaxy S3 was what iOS 7 turned me towards. i hated iOS 7 and couldn't downgrade. the S3 had maintained a sort of skeuomorphic UI (that was improved in the S4) that got my business. BlackBerry was still dying, not worth my time, and Windows Phone, forget it. the only option was Android, and most of the Android handsets are flat design (Android in and of itself has always been a flat design) but Samsung's skin has a touch of skeuomorphism that seemed to be intended for former iOS users, which i got attracted to. then the Nature UX that simply completed it for me.
As for names, just don't call it Licorice... please.
iOS 7 is trying to be....something....but i think comparing it to Android is an insult. everytime i see an iOS 7 device in the wild it just reminds me of the LeapPad.
As for names, just don't call it Licorice... please.
iOS 7 is trying to be....something....but i think comparing it to Android is an insult. everytime i see an iOS 7 device in the wild it just reminds me of the LeapPad.
androidlover9
Android Enthusiast
Licorice... ewwww black licorice is the worst though XD
Oh jeeze windows phone... why does it exist...
Well what I meant with it being Android is the features the new OS has, which makes iOS somewhat usable now. (their phones are still small pieces of poop that are overpriced with bad specs though
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nickdalzell
Extreme Android User
i dunno, i suppose with the current iOS 7 devices they are indeed overpriced, yet you pay a couple hundred $$$ more for a S4 unsubsidized.
iOS's approach in the early years to iOS 6 was obviously different than Android's approach. Android was marketed as a widget happy, full of tons of options, eye candy wonder.
iOS was designed to simply turn the phone into another device entirely. a phone, which had a really old school phone dialer in the first versions, or a literal radio, complete with tuning knobs, podcast player, with reel to reel tape, a literal yellow, torn off paper notepad, a leather-bound address book, etc. it was a convergence device. a smartphone that became anything you needed. it was what i loved about the iPhone then, i was really old school coming from the Nokia 5185i. i liked how one single device eliminated the need for a separate clock radio, or weather station, or radio, etc. the iPhone could do it all. and i LOVED the old school UI.
then came iOS 7 which turned it all sterile, boring, colorless (except for the home screen) and unnatural. even the apps weren't left alone. they updated on their own before i could find the feature for background downloads, so it was too late, and iOS never offered an 'uninstall updates' feature.
Android's approach was not intended to turn the smartphone into any device you wished. it was designed to be a pocketable computer. web browser, email, social networking, widgets, etc.
Samsung's UI might have some 3-D and skeuomorphism at least as far as the S4, but it also does not try to turn your device into a radio, reel to reel podcast player, or notepad. however, the apps built-in do offer some of the looks of such. you can download a clock radio widget in the Play Store, you can use the music widget/player for your music playback (just don't expect it to look like a Sony Walkman from the '80s with a virtual cassette tape) and the S Memo doesn't have the torn off paper or leather, but it does have the proper yellow lined legal pad look. it only offers the necessary familarity, but does not try passing itself off as a literal real-life object. hints of flat design still run rampant in TouchWiz, but there's never too much of it or skeuomorphism. there's balance.
Of course, even Android gives you choices. there are apps in the Play Store that give you your '80s Walkman, with spinning virtual cassette tape, a soviet era cassette recorder, Samsung had an FM Radio app that had tuning knobs in their app store, and so on. you can even relive iOS's early versions through launchers.
iOS's approach in the early years to iOS 6 was obviously different than Android's approach. Android was marketed as a widget happy, full of tons of options, eye candy wonder.
iOS was designed to simply turn the phone into another device entirely. a phone, which had a really old school phone dialer in the first versions, or a literal radio, complete with tuning knobs, podcast player, with reel to reel tape, a literal yellow, torn off paper notepad, a leather-bound address book, etc. it was a convergence device. a smartphone that became anything you needed. it was what i loved about the iPhone then, i was really old school coming from the Nokia 5185i. i liked how one single device eliminated the need for a separate clock radio, or weather station, or radio, etc. the iPhone could do it all. and i LOVED the old school UI.
then came iOS 7 which turned it all sterile, boring, colorless (except for the home screen) and unnatural. even the apps weren't left alone. they updated on their own before i could find the feature for background downloads, so it was too late, and iOS never offered an 'uninstall updates' feature.
Android's approach was not intended to turn the smartphone into any device you wished. it was designed to be a pocketable computer. web browser, email, social networking, widgets, etc.
Samsung's UI might have some 3-D and skeuomorphism at least as far as the S4, but it also does not try to turn your device into a radio, reel to reel podcast player, or notepad. however, the apps built-in do offer some of the looks of such. you can download a clock radio widget in the Play Store, you can use the music widget/player for your music playback (just don't expect it to look like a Sony Walkman from the '80s with a virtual cassette tape) and the S Memo doesn't have the torn off paper or leather, but it does have the proper yellow lined legal pad look. it only offers the necessary familarity, but does not try passing itself off as a literal real-life object. hints of flat design still run rampant in TouchWiz, but there's never too much of it or skeuomorphism. there's balance.
Of course, even Android gives you choices. there are apps in the Play Store that give you your '80s Walkman, with spinning virtual cassette tape, a soviet era cassette recorder, Samsung had an FM Radio app that had tuning knobs in their app store, and so on. you can even relive iOS's early versions through launchers.
androidlover9
Android Enthusiast
Yeah, but that phone has an excuse to be that expensive
what reason do iPhones have for being so expensive?
nickdalzell
Extreme Android User
the iPhones are justified for their price. they are known to have a longer lifecycle and until recently, people often kept their older iPhone for a few more years since they never changed much about them in newer models. after five years, you get your money's worth.
Android's products are updated so rapidly that the cost is often far higher than it is worth. people often upgrade before their contract is up, hardly keeping one model for more than a few months to a year, so they spend far more money in the same five years than someone who is perfectly happy with their iPhone.
I am not even a year into my contract and already i have spent more than $800 total. just because Samsung keeps making new things i love and buy up. when i had my iPhone 3GS, i had it for at least two years and only got the 4 because the 3GS was a loan from the boss and he wanted it back. but two years at $499 vs less than one with $800. hmmm
now if you want to talk overpriced how about Beats stuff? i just cannot see the point in paying $300 for a set of headphones. even Bose isn't that high! stupid names and placebo effects. i suppose morons think the beats name and price automatically makes the product superior. funny, as that is how ricers think when they slap on stickers and fake intake scoops onto a four-banger Honda assuming they got more horsepower.
Android's products are updated so rapidly that the cost is often far higher than it is worth. people often upgrade before their contract is up, hardly keeping one model for more than a few months to a year, so they spend far more money in the same five years than someone who is perfectly happy with their iPhone.
I am not even a year into my contract and already i have spent more than $800 total. just because Samsung keeps making new things i love and buy up. when i had my iPhone 3GS, i had it for at least two years and only got the 4 because the 3GS was a loan from the boss and he wanted it back. but two years at $499 vs less than one with $800. hmmm
now if you want to talk overpriced how about Beats stuff? i just cannot see the point in paying $300 for a set of headphones. even Bose isn't that high! stupid names and placebo effects. i suppose morons think the beats name and price automatically makes the product superior. funny, as that is how ricers think when they slap on stickers and fake intake scoops onto a four-banger Honda assuming they got more horsepower.
androidlover9
Android Enthusiast
Apple bought beats... oh boy....
My status arrows are still there in 4.4.2 Verizon, except they are now white and not green and red.Oh, well I agree in that sense... I'll miss the colours
They got rid of the wifi arrows? I really liked those... aww
androidlover9
Android Enthusiast
I dunno I'll have to see what Bell does to their model.
Funderbolt
Well-Known Member
I hope they fix more than the camera issue mentioned in the article (which I don't have btw). I mean why do programmers have to mess with things like battery status color. What's with the white battery? Leave it alone! My phone even locked up during a call once, which I haven't had for years. What are these guys doing? AGHHHHHH!
AMENDMENT: I hope they fix the signal strength issue mine seems to have developed. If it ain't broke, leave it TF alone. As an engineer I understand improvements, but the key word here is "IMPROVE", get it?
AMENDMENT: I hope they fix the signal strength issue mine seems to have developed. If it ain't broke, leave it TF alone. As an engineer I understand improvements, but the key word here is "IMPROVE", get it?
ironass
Extreme Android User
According to this...
Android 4.4.3 KitKat Update for Google Nexus 4, Nexus 5, Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 to Roll Out on May 23
"Google is planning to roll it out starting on May 23 on the Google Nexus 4, Nexus 5, Nexus 7, and Nexus 10."
"We
Android 4.4.3 KitKat Update for Google Nexus 4, Nexus 5, Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 to Roll Out on May 23
"Google is planning to roll it out starting on May 23 on the Google Nexus 4, Nexus 5, Nexus 7, and Nexus 10."
"We
ironass
Extreme Android User
This next article by the renowned developer chainfire is not intended to spread doom and gloom amongst you rooters and flashers out there but merely to serve as a warning.
Treat it like Knox Security and KitKat SD card security but without any of the running around like Mike, the headless chicken...
Chainfire foresees rooting problems in upcoming Android 4.4.3
According to the article, it looks as though, once again, root dev's will be busy. Unlike the previous security enhancements mentioned above, this is centred around Android's use of ART, (Android RunTime), instead of Dalvik.
This does not affect un-rooted users.
Treat it like Knox Security and KitKat SD card security but without any of the running around like Mike, the headless chicken...
Chainfire foresees rooting problems in upcoming Android 4.4.3
According to the article, it looks as though, once again, root dev's will be busy. Unlike the previous security enhancements mentioned above, this is centred around Android's use of ART, (Android RunTime), instead of Dalvik.
This does not affect un-rooted users.
ironass
Extreme Android User
Item #6 of KitKat 4.4.2 release... fact and fiction...
I will admit that, judging from this forum, there does seem to be some problems with some of the heavily carrier branded U.S. minority Galaxy S4 variants that make up just 3% of the total worldwide KitKat firmware releases so far. Whether these carriers concerned will spend the time, effort and money in releasing, "bugfix", updates for their version of 4.4.2 when 4.4.3 is looming on the horizon, remains to be seen.
BurtGummer
Member
I must be lucky because all my problems were fixed with the KitKat update through AT&T. My phone would randomly shut down when JellyBean was installed on it.
sreum
Android Enthusiast
Item #6 of KitKat 4.4.2 release... fact and fiction...
I will admit that, judging from this forum, there does seem to be some problems with some of the heavily carrier branded U.S. minority Galaxy S4 variants that make up just 3% of the total worldwide KitKat firmware releases so far. Whether these carriers concerned will spend the time, effort and money in releasing, "bugfix", updates for their version of 4.4.2 when 4.4.3 is looming on the horizon, remains to be seen.
Your statements are nothing that haven't been talked about before, but when you purchase a phone and it runs better with 4.2 then with 4.3 or 4.4 then obviously, no matter what version of the update it was..... 4.2 is still better. And until my phone runs like it did the day I purchased it then just like your opinions I have mine. And that is 4.2 utilized more of the hardware then 4.3 or 4.4. Making 4.2 run the phone harder and faster.
Rxpert83
Dr. Feelgood
He was just making the distinction between googles version of kitkat and the one that ends up on devices after manufacturers muck with it.
We see on the forums all the time "the upgrade to 'X' screwed up my phone", when its usually not the android version at fault.
People just need to be aware of that. Its worth repeating.
We see on the forums all the time "the upgrade to 'X' screwed up my phone", when its usually not the android version at fault.
People just need to be aware of that. Its worth repeating.
Funderbolt
Well-Known Member
We see a lot of talk about 4.4.3, so when will I have the update?
ironass
Extreme Android User
That is a question that only Verizon can answer as they do not even use Samsung to release their firmware. If their last release is anything to go by, they were about 4 months behind Sprints 4.4.2 firmware.
The rumour that the Nexus devices would get it on the 23rd May turned out to be just that... a rumour. When 4.4.3 is released, it will go to the Nexus devices first, followed by the Google Edition handsets and then it will start rolling out to the rest of us after that.