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andriodsunrise

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I know I’m being unfair but I have had an Android phone for a week now and I’m disappointed. The basic features I thought any phone would have are not on it. Firstly, I set the alarm and turned off my phone and expected to be awaken by vibrating and my chosen alarm song but was surprised when my old Sony Ericsson did that instead :mad:. I can live without having a decent alarm but the thing I really relied on was knowing the exact time and date a text was sent to me. I can’t understand why such a forward thinking device doesn’t have that simple information. Is there any way I can change that?
Finally, I couldn't believe I didn't have a onscreen text alert when my phone was in pin locked mode.I only found out I had a text when I unlocked my phone.

I do apologise if it’s not Android’s problems but instead the phone manufacturer’s.
 
So by turn off the phone, you mean you powered it off completely? I don't see why you would do that. I just silence my ringer and notifications. It wakes me up every morning.

and all of my texts are stamped with a time and date.
 
Welcome to the forums!!!

When android phones are off, they are truly off. That's just a difference you'll need to adjust to.

The other problem with the SMS is likely a manufacturer difference, and id bet if you use an app like GO SMS it'll let you set it to your liking.

What phone do you have?
 
bjacks12 said:
So by turn off the phone, you mean you powered it off completely? I don't see why you would do that. I just silence my ringer and notifications. It wakes me up every morning.

and all of my texts are stamped with a time and date.
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My sister went thru the same thing when she switched from BlackBerry to the Note 2 and I had to convince her that it wouldn't hurt to leave the phone powered on overnight.
 
Lol the phone does go into "sleep mode" when the screen is off. powering it right off is more like putting it in a coma :D
As for the other things, most things you want can be changed just by using apps (keyboard, messanger etc)
Once you realise you arent stuck with the phone as it was out of the box, youll start to love it.
My current phone is about 15months old and the only time its been powered off is when i accidently run out of battery. It prefers to be turned on and keeping it plugged in over night does no harm :)
 
funkylogik said:
Lol the phone does go into "sleep mode" when the screen is off. powering it right off is more like putting it in a coma :D
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Well put.

When I go to bed, I usually put my phone into airplane mode and the battery doesn't drain at all while I'm sleeping.

My phone sleeps better than I do. :D
 
andriodsunrise said:
Because I like to rest the phone,if i'm having rest why not the phone too!
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:D Good reason! :D

However, as others have said, there's no need to shut it off. I can't even recall the last time I actually powered down my phone. :confused: Probably a few months ago.

Think of Android phones as having three power settings:

1) ON on
2) Resting on (or off, depending on how you look at it!)
3) OFF off

#1 is when you're using it--like browsing this forum, or making a call, or playing a game.

#2 is when you:
press its power button briefly, or
the display goes to sleep according to your settings​

In this state it's fully usable and fully functioning, i.e., alerts/notifications will do their thing, incoming text messages will arrive, alarms will go off at their scheduled time, etc., but its screen is off until it needs to turn itself back on--like when an alarm goes off--or until you interact with it somehow, like swiping it, which turns the screen back on.

#3 is when you press and hold its power button (or however your particular phone works, perhaps long-pressing on your home screen and choosing 'shutdown' or something similar). In this state it's really off--and that means no alarms, as you found out! :eek: When it's off off, it's pretty much just a lovely paperweight. :D
 
it's been a while since i used the stock texting app, but the one i use (handcent) has the time and date that texts were sent on it. maybe try using that. and, though i don't run pin-lock, i believe that handcent solves that problem, too.

that's one of the big appeals of android. you can change things if you don't like them - keyboard, texting app, app launcher, just about everything.
 
if you program your DVR to record some show.. then pull the power plug out of the socket.
are you pissed at it, because it did not record your show?

I know.. I hate it when that happens :P

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depending on your phone.. there maybe settings to turn on/off features in your sms app. like date/time stamp for every message!

check it out.. there are many many settings to change/customize.
if you don't like it.. replace it with another app from the play store

hope you can find a way to like your new phone.
 
Some Samsung phones have a mini-OS that runs when charging and someone's figured out how to put a clock on that.

I can't find it now, maybe it was fake.
 
:D
Ask in the Applications forum for any kind of app request. Its quite an active forum :beer:
I guess the old phones had like a mini battery inside to keep things like alarm running? Im sure i remember the alarm working even with the main battery removed lol
 
If you want to shut it down as much as you can without actually turning it off, there's also airplane mode. Just remember to turn that off when you wake ;).

Re the message times, as others have said it must be something your device manufacturer has done. I'm currently using the HTC message app (Sense 5 version), and have previously used several third-party apps, and all have shown me the exact times of messages. I suspect that if you tap or long-press a message and select "details" from the pop-up menu you can find this out with your current app, but if it's something you do a lot it's better if it's just displayed.
 
I am going to assume the OP meant exact time and date they were sent when he turns his phone on.
I haven't had a smart phone that will tell me when it was sent if my phone was off or not in a service area. Instead it will show the current time and date because that is when you receive the message.
 
Ah, good point. Rarely have to look at that difference.

If you view message details they do include a "sent" and "received" time for incoming messages, but I can't remember when I last had one sent when out of cover so can't confirm that the "sent" time is displayed correctly. Worth a go though. Don't know any app which shows it by default.
 
MLSS said:
I am going to assume the OP meant exact time and date they were sent when he turns his phone on.
I haven't had a smart phone that will tell me when it was sent if my phone was off or not in a service area. Instead it will show the current time and date because that is when you receive the message.
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ok.. I get u..
since he turns off the phone.. when he sleeps.
text come in at night.. but he only gets them all when he turns it on.
they all get time stamped at the same time.. in the morning.

solution 1:
don't turn off the phone.. just put it to sleep.

solution 2:
I think... this would work.
try a google "voice" app. it is an online text/messaging service.
it replaces your your service providers messaging service.
it runs on Data only, so your connection must be on to use it.
but when your phone is off.. the online servers get your sms and time stamp them
 
I'd just like to add something while we're talking about doing things like turning off the phone and toggling airplane mode.

My carrier charges me extra for individual WAP sessions (internet sessions). The way a single WAP session is quantified is simply equal to the number of times you connect to the internet using the mobile data. So if I leave my mobile data enabled for the entire month, this will register as having made just one long WAP (internet) session, and therefore I will only get charged for one WAP session in that billing period (assuming I can keep my phone from dying of low battery an entire month).

However, when you enable airplane mode/turn off mobile data,the next time you re-enable it, you will be starting a new WAP session. Each time you turn your phone off, you are turning off the antenna, and when you restart the phone, the antenna restarts and begins a new WAP session. ANYTHING, that disables mobile data (turns off the antenna) will prompt a new session.

If, like me, you get charged for WAP sessions, the charge is likely very small... but last month I racked up a ridiculous 172 WAP sessions! (Don't ask why I toggled my mobile data 172 times in one month) All these WAP sessions added up to more than $43, which I was charged on top of my normal bill.

Most normal plans don't charge extra for single WAP sessions, but if you are unsure, it it might be worth finding out. And if you know that you do get charged for WAP sessions, just try to avoid doing anything that stops and restarts your antenna.
 
S pen said:
I'd just like to add something while we're talking about doing things like turning off the phone and toggling airplane mode.

My carrier charges me extra for individual WAP sessions (internet sessions). The way a single WAP session is quantified is simply equal to the number of times you connect to the internet using the mobile data. So if I leave my mobile data enabled for the entire month, this will register as having made just one long WAP (internet) session, and therefore I will only get charged for one WAP session in that billing period (assuming I can keep my phone from dying of low battery an entire month).

However, when you enable airplane mode/turn off mobile data,the next time you re-enable it, you will be starting a new WAP session. Each time you turn your phone off, you are turning off the antenna, and when you restart the phone, the antenna restarts and begins a new WAP session. ANYTHING, that disables mobile data (turns off the antenna) will prompt a new session.

If, like me, you get charged for WAP sessions, the charge is likely very small... but last month I racked up a ridiculous 172 WAP sessions! (Don't ask why I toggled my mobile data 172 times in one month) All these WAP sessions added up to more than $43, which I was charged on top of my normal bill.

Most normal plans don't charge extra for single WAP sessions, but if you are unsure, it it might be worth finding out. And if you know that you do get charged for WAP sessions, just try to avoid doing anything that stops and restarts your antenna.
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I've never heard of this. Who is your carrier? What phone are you using?
 
S pen said:
I'd just like to add something while we're talking about doing things like turning off the phone and toggling airplane mode.

My carrier charges me extra for individual WAP sessions (internet sessions). The way a single WAP session is quantified is simply equal to the number of times you connect to the internet using the mobile data. So if I leave my mobile data enabled for the entire month, this will register as having made just one long WAP (internet) session, and therefore I will only get charged for one WAP session in that billing period (assuming I can keep my phone from dying of low battery an entire month).

However, when you enable airplane mode/turn off mobile data,the next time you re-enable it, you will be starting a new WAP session. Each time you turn your phone off, you are turning off the antenna, and when you restart the phone, the antenna restarts and begins a new WAP session. ANYTHING, that disables mobile data (turns off the antenna) will prompt a new session.

If, like me, you get charged for WAP sessions, the charge is likely very small... but last month I racked up a ridiculous 172 WAP sessions! (Don't ask why I toggled my mobile data 172 times in one month) All these WAP sessions added up to more than $43, which I was charged on top of my normal bill.

Most normal plans don't charge extra for single WAP sessions, but if you are unsure, it it might be worth finding out. And if you know that you do get charged for WAP sessions, just try to avoid doing anything that stops and restarts your antenna.
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In the really early days of mobile internet i used WAP (like 15yrs ago) and it referred to basicly mobile "dial-up" internet, very slow and was charged by the minute (although i used a hack to get it for free).
What class of data are you getting (1g, gprs, hsdpa, etc)?
 
@S pen: do you really mean "WAP"? As Funky says, that has a specific technical meaning from the stone age of mobile data. I suspect your carrier is using the term incorrectly though (because I don't think there are any WAP sites in existence any more, for one thing). Probably just the marketing people haven't changed their terminology since the 90s ;)

Seems a strange charging system though. What if you turn WiFi on? That will replace your mobile data connection, so do you get charged when you turn WiFi off? Or just go into a room with no signal? And conversely no monitoring of usage, just connections, seems bizarre - if you think of charges as a way of controlling use of a finite resource, then they should charge for data volume rather than the number of sessions, which is what every other network I've heard of does. That's just really weird!
 
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