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nickanthony said:
Just looked on amazon. IPhone 5 unlocked $575, galaxy s4 550 and htc one $525-550 all roughly. And all were $200 with any major provider with a new contract when first released.

So again, other than countries outside the US, how is the iPhone more expensive?
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The iphone 5 was released way back in September of 2012, while the Galaxy S4 was released in April 2013. Confounding that comparison, the S4 is the current generation, while the iphone 5 is "last years" model.

Not comparing apples to apples IMO.

You'll notice the iPhone 5S is $700+ unlocked, while the S4 is $550

When the S5 is announced later this month you'll get a better comparison
 
nickanthony said:
That makes sense and does show how carriers can afford to sell a $600 phone for $200 but it sounds like this is all phones and not specific to iPhones. So I'm still confused on how iPhones are more expensive.
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Some of the flagship phones do indeed sell for close to the same price. In the US, they're much close in terms of retail price than say in Korea or China. But there's also some android phones that have top of the line hardware and cost much less. The Nexus 5 is the best example with it having a better processor and gpu, same ram, same storage amount, marginally smaller battery (2300 vs 2600 mAh), same screen size and yet it retails for 350 or 400 for 16/32GB.

iPhone is much closer to other flagship phones. But the iPad is grossly overpriced compared to top tier android tablets. A 32GB full size iPad is 600, where a Asus TF701 is 450, Nexus 10 500 (making a direct comparison to last years model).
 
Rxpert83 said:
The iphone 5 was released way back in September of 2012, while the Galaxy S4 was released in April 2013. Confounding that comparison, the S4 is the current generation, while the iphone 5 is "last years" model.

Not comparing apples to apples IMO.

You'll notice the iPhone 5S is $700+ unlocked, while the S4 is $550

When the S5 is announced later this month you'll get a better comparison
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Now you just did the same thing. 5s released in September 2013 and gs4 5 months earlier. There will never be an exact comparison so if that's what you need let's focus on what carriers charge when brand new with a new contract. $200 for both.
 
nickanthony said:
Now you just did the same thing. 5s released in September 2013 and gs4 5 months earlier. There will never be an exact comparison so if that's what you need let's focus on what carriers charge when brand new with a new contract. $200 for both.
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I realize they weren't released on the same timeframe, but I don't believe S4 was ever $700+ dollars

Thats why I said you'll get a better comparison with the s5, because even brand new I doubt itll be $700.
 
MLSS said:
I love how some folks use a passive/aggressive approach to attacking the OP, I read another post from a member and he got picked apart and he wasn't trying to say anything negative about Android.

Then thier is another completely different conversation going on about IM apps lol...........

I give it 24 more hours and thier will be some name calling going on........

Now for the least important part of my post,
My opinion.

Both operating systems are just fine. It's all about what you prefer. My wife has an iPhone and she would never use anything else. She kept her iPhone 3 for three years and just upgraded to the 5s a while back and she loves it. I like and use Android, I love that I can change launchers, use different messaging apps and replace other stock apps as my little heart desires.
Steve Jobs was a crook, but that doesn't make the iPhone a bad phone lol

Anyhow.............
That's my 2 cents and in today's global economy 2 cents aren't worth much.
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I'm simply attempting to illsturate that they cost about the same and have very similar defective/flawed device rates.

nickanthony said:
That makes sense and does show how carriers can afford to sell a $600 phone for $200 but it sounds like this is all phones and not specific to iPhones. So I'm still confused on how iPhones are more expensive.
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I never said they were, I said depending on the phone, its the same (unless you want a budget device), but that's just me.

nickanthony said:
Thanks MLSS. I'm not trying to insult anyone or even start anything. I do love android but I also think apple has a great product to, just in different ways.
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I like both, to be honest, but I prefer Android. I wouldn't mind a 2009 Macbook Pro, and I now own two (older) iPhones.
 
nickanthony said:
That makes sense and does show how carriers can afford to sell a $600 phone for $200 but it sounds like this is all phones and not specific to iPhones. So I'm still confused on how iPhones are more expensive.
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To borrow a quote from Mike.

mikedt said:
Oh they're horribly overpriced in the country where they're made. Even the iPhone 4, not the 4S, is around $600 here. Apple are playing the luxury product game here, along with the likes of Rolex and Gucci.
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The iPhone is a status symbol. It's expensive because it's expensive. Price often means better quality and people will buy those things because they believe they're better. iPhone has been losing that edge though. Over the years Android has improved. Bigger is also better. And Android is all about large screen sizes.
 
nickanthony said:
That's how I feel. I love android and everything I can do with it but apple seems to just have a better or more reliable product. I know it's hard for a lot of die hard android lovers to admit but I try to stay unbiased when it comes to technology.
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apple devs has it much easier to wright apps/games for ios. because they only have 1 maker to worry about. 1 phone.. 1 main hardware requirements (few older ones). they can write and test easier and optimize it better to run.

ios forces the apps to run more selective.. keeping most other apps to stop in the background. so the app running has full resources of the phone.



it seams to me..
you want IOS.. iphone.
what ever advantages android has.. it is NOT important to u.
there is NOTHING wrong with that.
don't waste your time.. give in and embrace that.
:)





see you in a year... when you decide that was the WRONG impression.
:p :smokingsomb:
 
dan330 said:
apple devs has it much easier to wright apps/games for ios. because they only have 1 maker to worry about. 1 phone.. 1 main hardware requirements (few older ones). they can write and test easier and optimize it better to run.

ios forces the apps to run more selective.. keeping most other apps to stop in the background. so the app running has full resources of the phone.



it seams to me..
you want IOS.. iphone.
what ever advantages android has.. it is NOT important to u.
there is NOTHING wrong with that.
don't waste your time.. give in and embrace that.
:)





see you in a year... when you decide that was the WRONG impression.
:p :smokingsomb:
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Haha you're probably right. I'm just second guessing my choice to switch to android. Not that I'm convinced at all either way. Im sure if I switched back to an iPhone I'd miss tons about my moto x.
 
nickanthony said:
Haha you're probably right. I'm just second guessing my choice to switch to android. Not that I'm convinced at all either way. Im sure if I switched back to an iPhone I'd miss tons about my moto x.
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yeah.. they both have negs and pos

I love motorcycles. currently without one.. and looking to get one again.
I can not decide which I like better: sport or cruiser.

sport: so fun.. so fast.. so nibble.. so dangerous!
cruiser: so fun.. relax.. so comfortable.
 
nickanthony said:
In my very minimal experience my moto x freezes and iPhone never did and my moto x lags all the time. A lot time when playing games it gets so slow I can't even play. None of my iPhones ever did that.
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It seems to me that your phone is behaving atypically for a modern device. Maybe you should take it back to where you bought it and ask for a replacement (if it comes to that), HOWEVER, I think your time would be better spent trying to resolve the problem with your phone.

It would be a learning experience where you would end up knowing more about your device and could even be in a position to help others. I'm sure anyone here would do their best to help you find a solution. Your moto X shouldn't be lagging.

So... either try to find a solution to fix it yourself (my preferred option) or get it fixed/replaced by your carrier or whoever provided the phone under warranty.
 
Id love for us all to roll up our sleeves and see if we can get this beast running beautifully :)
Another great thing about android.. the community :beer:
(Disclosure: i have no idea what the ios community is like lol but im sure it just works)
 
I'd be willing to help out. How far are you willing to go to try to fix it, first of all? Rooting/custom ROM? Also, is it laggy in EVERY app or specific apps? Was it laggy when you first got it?


You might wanna try the Moto X forum, too
 
if it is a hardware issue.. nothing will fix it. only warranty.
more details of the issue would help us determine what might be the issue.

also this thread.. by your title... is about comparing. NOT fixing anything.
you should start a new tread to get help.

also it needs to be in the sub-forum of your particular phone model.
so the members with the right expertise with the same phone can help
 
Dan is correct. I know because it happens so infrequently. :eek:

(You know we loove you Dan ... well, most of us do ... sort of. ;))

To the point, any further discussion about troubleshooting the Moto X should happen in the Moto X Forums.
 
dibblebill said:
I'd be willing to help out. How far are you willing to go to try to fix it, first of all? Rooting/custom ROM? Also, is it laggy in EVERY app or specific apps? Was it laggy when you first got it?


You might wanna try the Moto X forum, too
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It's only laggy when playing games and it's been like that since I got it (maybe 3 months ago).

I'm not familiar with rooting. Is that anything like jailbreaking an iPhone? I looked into that before but decided against it because I didn't want a phone that I had to constantly maintain and make sure was running correctly on my own.

Custom ROM? I never heard of this until coming here. I've got some computer building experience but never messed with a cell phone like that. Is it a similar process? (Obviously much smaller)
 
nickanthony said:
It's only laggy when playing games and it's been like that since I got it (maybe 3 months ago).

I'm not familiar with rooting. Is that anything like jailbreaking an iPhone? I looked into that before but decided against it because I didn't want a phone that I had to constantly maintain and make sure was running correctly on my own.

Custom ROM? I never heard of this until coming here. I've got some computer building experience but never messed with a cell phone like that. Is it a similar process? (Obviously much smaller)
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Simply put, rooting is getting administrator rights on the device.

Those rights will allow you to improve battery life and performance through the use of custom kernels, add functionality/bells and whistles with custom Roms, and pretty much allow you to change anything you dream up
 
nickanthony said:
It's only laggy when playing games and it's been like that since I got it (maybe 3 months ago).

I'm not familiar with rooting. Is that anything like jailbreaking an iPhone? I looked into that before but decided against it because I didn't want a phone that I had to constantly maintain and make sure was running correctly on my own.

Custom ROM? I never heard of this until coming here. I've got some computer building experience but never messed with a cell phone like that. Is it a similar process? (Obviously much smaller)
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Rooting can preclude you from getting official updates, yes, but a complete custom Android experience, especially ones like AOKP, Cyanogenmod, OmniROM, etc., can have its own automatic updates. Some have to be manually updated, like my OmniROM Tempest builds, others happen OTA like any other updater.

Rooting is like jailbreaking except you don't get shut out of the entire app store/etc, and you can install neat things liek XPosed Frameworks to add new functions.

The Moto X's gaming performance is not something I'm overly familiar with, as I don't have one and haven't benchmarked it extensively (something I've neglected to do w/ my HTC One), as seen here:
http://dibblebill.blogspot.com/2013/05/samsung-galaxy-victory-product-review.html
http://dibblebill.blogspot.com/2013/05/nexus-10-epic-citadel-benchmarking.html
 
Android OS all the way. I love the iPhone for certain things but I love the freedom of android. I love the moto x. I got an optimus f6 and I absolutely love it.
 
There are certain thing about the iPad that I love, like changing apps is just three finger swipe, and closing apps is 4 finger swipe to the middle. Some things. Doesn't compare to a note tho in terms of the device itself. Yes, more developers are serious about iOS than android. Example, I have not found a single good professional video editor on android, and iOS has imovie and pinnacle studio 15 from avid. If android developers were ta take things a bit more serious and develop professional apps then...
 
I think the main problem for android app devs is the amount of different devices, different sizes/resolution on a range of OS versions
 
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