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Any Time is Grillin Time

Unforgiven said:
I've not used it, but I heard it was up for a major redesign. They asked me to help test a BBQ University and I was all in to do it until I found out I needed to sign up for facebook to participate. The app redesign was part of that.
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They messed up what was a good app IMO and left a very sour taste in every early adopter's mouth. Losing the existing journal in the upgrade was not right. They couldn't pay me enough to use their app now. Oh well....
 
Well, in a fitting ending to my turkey, I made a pot pie with the leftovers. Way better than my last chicken pot pie because this one was made with smoked turkey and the homemade gravy made from the drippings. Smoked on the Traeger at 370 for 30 minutes'ish. Some cold weather comfort food.
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The response I received just now from the email I sent to Cave Tools this afternoon:
Hey Rick,
The original version of the app was hosted on each person’s phone. There was no central database back up so if you changed phones or anything like that you could not bring the app with you.
On the recent update we added a login screen or the ability to use guest mode. In the new app, everything is backed up to our database with your user name. You can log in on any phone and always have access to your data. There is also the entire recipe community that we are building out and a bunch of other new features now that we have the database built.
Unfortunately we were not able to retain the previous journal entries for each person. I’m really sorry about this, but moving forward we made sure that everything is now tied to your user id forever and your data is safe.
Cheers,

Michael “Medium Rare” O’Donnell
Cave Tools - Owner

I thought it very considerate to respond and so quickly. However, I'm still miffed. :)
 
olbriar said:
The response I received just now from the email I sent to Cave Tools this afternoon:
Hey Rick,
The original version of the app was hosted on each person’s phone. There was no central database back up so if you changed phones or anything like that you could not bring the app with you.
On the recent update we added a login screen or the ability to use guest mode. In the new app, everything is backed up to our database with your user name. You can log in on any phone and always have access to your data. There is also the entire recipe community that we are building out and a bunch of other new features now that we have the database built.
Unfortunately we were not able to retain the previous journal entries for each person. I’m really sorry about this, but moving forward we made sure that everything is now tied to your user id forever and your data is safe.
Cheers,

Michael “Medium Rare” O’Donnell
Cave Tools - Owner

I thought it very considerate to respond and so quickly. However, I'm still miffed. :)
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Yeah, I've actually conversed with Micheal, I even linked him to this thread. I was less than impressed with him in my correspondence with the grilling university deal which is too bad.
 
Unforgiven said:
Yeah, I've actually conversed with Micheal, I even linked him to this thread. I was less than impressed with him in my correspondence with the grilling university deal which is too bad.
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I don't mind sharing my cooks... I do here more often than not. How ever, it's my choice what I share. I'm not likely to be accessing other people's cooks either. I will certainly follow closely cooks I might gather here from people I know and respect. The direction he's taking his app is not all bad... just not what I'm after. I would have never upgraded the app if I had any notion it was evolving in this fashion. And I certainly wouldn't have updated if I knew my journal was in peril.
 
Unforgiven said:
Well, in a fitting ending to my turkey, I made a pot pie with the leftovers. Way better than my last chicken pot pie because this one was made with smoked turkey and the homemade gravy made from the drippings. Smoked on the Traeger at 370 for 30 minutes'ish. Some cold weather comfort food.
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Way bigger than Marie Callendar

This years turkey had a British/Carib taste. My nephews girlfriend at work.

For the first time i added no salt. No Salt.
 
Eighteen is a fair size group to keep happy. I bet you had fun doing it. I love cooking for groups. Rarely larger than your group though. I did some 250 to 200 people cooks years ago. But we had a place rented that had an excellent outdoor charcoal cooker. It was around thirty inches deep and six feet long. Made cooking burgers and dogs a snap.
Like all things... if you have the right tools.... I'm glad your cook turned out great. Good times... right?
 
I was helping my FIL cut deer, so I quick threw together a meatloaf for the smoker and tossed it on before I left. I gave here credit for cooking supper for checking the temp when the timer went off and putting it under foil to rest. :D
 
Once in a while my wife helps out. She'll pick me up some apple juice or tin foil. :) In 45 years she has never touched a grill or smoker. However, she lets me cook whatever I desire and most often expresses her appreciation. Even with my less than stellar experiments, nary a complaint.
 
@Unforgiven, I have a question. If I recall correctly, you purchased a Traeger tailgater or whatever it's called. I was considering buying one or Green Mountain's similar model for a buddy's Christmas gift. I was curious of your opinion of the smoker now that you've owned and no doubt used the unit for some time. Thanks in advance..
 
olbriar said:
@Unforgiven, I have a question. If I recall correctly, you purchased a Traeger tailgater or whatever it's called. I was considering buying one or Green Mountain's similar model for a buddy's Christmas gift. I was curious of your opinion of the smoker now that you've owned and no doubt used the unit for some time. Thanks in advance..
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I got this for about $300
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It works mint, **BUT** it's a small grilling area and the bigger issue is height. It's only about 8 inches above the grill, so it limits what you can cook. It's great for camping, I've cooked burgers, steaks, short ribs, ets, but if I were to do it again I'd spend the extra $150 and get this
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It has the height and the folding legs.

All that said, that's me sticking with Traeger as a known quantity. Every day I see more and more pellet smoker options, so for occasional use / tailgating, you can probably find a good pellet pooper for far less than I paid. Just check for surface area and height.
 
My buddy lives in a Winnebago the majority of the time. He owns a home local to me but his employment has him across the state. Being close to retirement he has had no desire to fully migrate. The problem with his digs on wheels is it has very little storage space. Perhaps a stand alone smoker that he could keep outside might be a better option.
I was intrigued by the size of the little smoker but being that small would definitely limit his cooks. I appreciate your input.
 
olbriar said:
My buddy lives in a Winnebago the majority of the time. He owns a home local to me but his employment has him across the state. Being close to retirement he has had no desire to fully migrate. The problem with his digs on wheels is it has very little storage space. Perhaps a stand alone smoker that he could keep outside might be a better option.
I was intrigued by the size of the little smoker but being that small would definitely limit his cooks. I appreciate your input.
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I've seen some semi-permanent rear bumper mounted grills / smokers in my travels. Something like this.
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As far as our pellet conversation from the other thread:
olbriar said:
As for the pellets.. :) one never has too much or too many options. I just stocked up on pellets. Wally World had 30# bags of a fruit blend for under thirteen bucks a bag. I also bought a couple of 40# bags of a competition hardwood blend. Don't remember the price. I had drained my stock to just a hopper full.... it was time to buy.
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A new place opened near me called Runnings where I can get Traeger pellets for $16 and their brand 30# bags for $14. It doesn't sound like much, but it saves me a lot of money. Well, it saves me a lot of money on pellets, I spend everything I save plus more on other stuff in the store. :D
 
Half a cup of coffee affords me some more thoughts on the camper smoker situation. If you know someone with some fabrication skills you could easily adapt on off the shelf bumper grill rack as pictured above for the second smoker pictured by adapting the mounting area to where the folding legs attach. I've used the second smoker and you can do a couple butts on it, so figuring in food weight (2 butts 20#), pellet weight (5-8#), and grill weight (30#) a fabricator may want to consider a single leg from the grill to the ground for when it is extended away from the bumper of the RV. I say fabricator, but what I really mean is someone with basic metal cutting / welding / painting skills. If it's mounted on the bumper at or near where the bumper it attached ti the frame you should have most of the support you need, and some way to lock it closed when you are going down the road.

All that considered, if he is dry camping he may need to consider how to power the unit.
 
I appreciate all of the information and your input. This guy has his Winnebago parked on the end of a strip motel. He rents the spot as well as power, water, and sewer. It's not ideal but he saves enough monthly to pay for his mobile digs. When he retires he'll either travel or sell the thing. A much better arrangement than renting.

My major concern for anything left outside of his trailer is theft. He puts in long hours working and is away many weekends. However, I've been in his Winnebago and there is zero space for anything lol... especially a cooker.
My thought on a little smoker was that it could be stored in his living space when he was away for some time. But, a small cooking surface and area will just not do. A larger smoker would be impossible or quite awkward to store by himself. I know he'd enjoy a smoker for he's all over my cooks at the cabin. :) Maybe I'll just wait until he retires to buy him one. Back to the drawing board. :) Thanks again for your time and ideas.
 
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