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Anyone switch to Eris from Droid?

Thanks, guys. Hmmm. If Eris is about the same or only a wee bit better than the 3 Moto Droids I've had, it's not close to the call quality I need or what I've had in the past (old Samsung smartphone and older Moto flip). What to do?! Consider Samsung Omnia II, even with its slugish internet and clunkiness? Argh. Must make a decision by Thursday. :confused:
 
In the almost two months I have had my Eris(es) I have not had one person complain about call quality, have not dropped one call, and have never had trouble hearing anyone.
 
I think the sound quality on the Eris is excellent, better then any of my previous flip phones and such. I was quite impressed.
 
Thanks, guys. Hmmm. If Eris is about the same or only a wee bit better than the 3 Moto Droids I've had, it's not close to the call quality I need or what I've had in the past (old Samsung smartphone and older Moto flip). What to do?! Consider Samsung Omnia II, even with its slugish internet and clunkiness? Argh. Must make a decision by Thursday. :confused:

Honestly I think the call quality on my Droid was above a lot of other people's experiences (yours included). I think you will be fine with the Eris from what I have read. Do you now anyone around you that has one for you to try?
 
Thanks. Wish I did know someone with Eris, but no. When I explained my primary needs (phone and corporate Outlook), Verizon Tech support person recommended HTC TouchPro 2 or Samsung Omnia 2. Motorola tech support said they're well aware of the phone call issues and working on it, but no promises on a fix. I'll go check out the threads for the other phones, but good to know Eris seems to have a more reliable phone function.
 
On my second DROID. Both had severe signal issues where my old blackberry storm doesn't. Verizon is sending me an Eris, which I will have on Monday. Went with the DROID at first for the 2.0 OS and the better processor, which I am regretting now. The VZW rep told me that they have been hearing about the DROID signal issues but have no resolution as of now, and the Eris hasn't been reported to have those issues. Hopefully it is true :p.
 
that's interesting. never heard anything about signal problems with the Droid, but I HAVE heard of signal issues with the Eris (the whole 1x/3g switching thing). mine generally seems ok, but i do drop calls pretty regularly in my apartment. signal is weak there. Droid seemed to hold onto the signal a bit better.
 
that's interesting. never heard anything about signal problems with the Droid, but I HAVE heard of signal issues with the Eris (the whole 1x/3g switching thing). mine generally seems ok, but i do drop calls pretty regularly in my apartment. signal is weak there. Droid seemed to hold onto the signal a bit better.

When my Droid started doing it, I googled "Droid signal drops". I came across a few different threads stating that others are experiencing the same issue. Both the Droids I've purchased have gone from full 3G, to nothing at all. No service what so ever, and not just when making calls. Just got off the phone with my sister who lives a couple houses down, and she has an Eris that holds a solid signal for data and phone calls. Gonna have her bring it over tonight and compare it to the Droid.

Besides the signal issues, I agree with allot of people on here that the Eris feels better holding it. I think it will be the same for me, especially since I came from T-Mobile's MyTouch 3G, and I've read that the virtual keyboard on the Eris is better than the MyTouch virtual keyboard.
 
I had a Moto Droid before the Eris, and it just never felt right. It was too heavy and those hard industrial edges were rough on my ear.

Also, when you ended a call on the Droid, it went to the call history screen. Then when I would lay the phone down, I'd accidentally hit that screen and call a couple people at once. Then the screen would go dark and I had that bug where the light sensor was messed up and I couldn't get the screen back on quick enough to hang up the phone before the people picked up and got frustrated at me.

I found the slide out keyboard awkward. There was something not ergonomic about it, but I came from a flip phone, so I thought maybe that was the way they were until I saw others complaining about it on here.

I do miss the faster processor, but I think my Eris has gotten faster since I turned a few things off. Also, I think I've gotten used to it being a little slower.

I liked the Droid. I just couldn't get a feel for it. I've had my Eris a few days, and it already feels like I've had it a few months. No regrets.
 
Benrx (or anybody!): Did you notice any difference in the quality of the phone calls? I turned in my 3rd Moto Droid and reactivated my old Samsung WinMo pda until I decide what to get. I can't get hold of an Eris to try it out. I love Android, but if the Eris is not noticibly better, I'm going to the HTC Touch Pro 2 (Win Mo again, ah well), known for its call quality. Let me know!
 
I haven't had my Eris long enough, but my flip was so bad that anything is better and I'm glad to be rid of it.
 
After you've used it awhile, I'd love to know if you notice any difference or if it's the same. I'll keep checking in on this thread. :)
 
Benrx (or anybody!): Did you notice any difference in the quality of the phone calls? I turned in my 3rd Moto Droid and reactivated my old Samsung WinMo pda until I decide what to get. I can't get hold of an Eris to try it out. I love Android, but if the Eris is not noticibly better, I'm going to the HTC Touch Pro 2 (Win Mo again, ah well), known for its call quality. Let me know!

I just activated my Eris. The call quality is allot better than the Moto Droid for me at least. When I place a call, it doesn't drop the signal at all. I have made a couple calls and the signal is holding strong. I read somewhere that the Moto Droid has two antennas (one for 1x and one for 3g.), and it has trouble switching between the two. That could be incorrect though.

I am surprised they let you go through 3 Droids though. The store where I am located swore up and down that there was nothing wrong with the Droid and that they only reason they were swapping it out was because the tech support wrote on the account that it was defective. Although even with that they still used the 30 day worry free exchange. After the 2nd Droid began doing the exact same thing as my first one, tech support had to get an "exception" to send out my Eris. Sorry for rambling, I am glad you were able to switch it so many times.

Anyways, back to the topic at hand here, again the Eris has shown through with flying colors. No echoing, no static, nothing. So in my opinion, the call quality is allot better.
 
I went to Verizon on Christmas eve to buy my wife a moto Droid and I was gonna walk away with my old phone. I then found I could get an Eris for free after rebate with purchase of the Moto so I opened a line for my 8 year old sons and put the Eris on a new line and just swapped numbers at home. SO...i was really jealous that my wife had her Droid and especially at night when she drops it on that media dock but I don't think I've picked up her phone more than a couple of times. Maybe it's because the Omnia was such a POS but my Eris feels plenty snappy and I love the Sense UI. I look at her box of a phone and quickly decide that the Eris is right for me.
 
I came from a 3g iPhone to the Droid. I returned it after two days. The Droid's keyboard was useless, and made the phone too bulky. I'm not crazy about Motorola phones, and the Droid reminded me of a big RAZR. Picked up the Eris two days ago, and so far I am very happy with it.

I miss a few features that I had on the iPhone, like the ability to automatically BCC myself on outgoing emails, and the Eris' bluetooth not transferring contacts to my car. Other than that, I think that the Eris is very solid.


You can "BCC" yourself in the email settings/options.
 
I tried a Moto Droid for a week and liked it but the physical keyboard was so bad that I would never use it. Also, I had heard a lot of good things about the Sense UI, which now that I'm a Eris user, agree that Sense UI is very cool. The Moto screen was bigger but the Moto itself is much bigger, heavier, and just feels clunky compared to the Eris. The only major drawback I see is in the processor; the Moto definitely runs faster but I'd still choose the Eris hands down.
 
As the OP, I thought I'd do a follow-up. I did end up switching the Droid for the Eris. There are some definite pros and cons for each phone, but I'm glad I did the switch... sorry all you Droid lovers. I would recommend either phone, but for me I like the HTC Eris.

Having had both now for about a month, here is my final analysis. It's actually similar to the first, but there are a few additions.

On the Pro side of the Droid (or negative of the Eris, depending on how you look at it):

- The screen on the Droid is amazing. The Eris one is not bad, and is still a huge upgrade from any blackberry other than the storm, but it's smaller and less detailed than the Droid. Compare it more in quality to the iPhones, only still a tad smaller (but that makes it more comfortable to hold than either, IMO).

- The Droid is running 2.0 (and the Beta GPS turn by turn directions that goes with it) and the Eris runs 1.5. Rumors still abound that the Eris will be receiving 2.0 the first quarter of 2010, but as of today, it's still 1.5 for the Eris. If/when Eris is updated, hopefully this will be moot. But honestly, the turn by turn GPS feature, while neat, is not a necessity. I can still get all the directions, the addresses, street level views, etc. I just don't get that GPS function (and I have a Garmin, so again, no big deal for me). While I had the Droid, I did use this feature a couple of times and it wasn't perfect for me. The GPS signal would get lost and have to play catch up a few times and the voice was not pleasant. I ended up preferring to use Google on the Droid and then plugging the address into my Garmin. Again, I did this while I still had the Droid, so no loss for me w/the Eris (but it was cool).

- How the Android Market is displayed. I think this has to do with 2.0 vs. 1.5, but am not sure. It could be the browser, but again I just don't know. But the Droid display of the market place was better (again, in my opinion). I liked that you could seperate paid vs. free apps and the Eris' display does not have that. Also, in the Droid's display of the market, there were often screenshots. This isn't so on the Eris. Sometimes there is a link to a developers page that has screenshots, but it's an extra step that just wasn't there on the Droid. I'm hoping this is a 2.0 vs. 1.5 thing, but even not it's a minor thing for me. But again a + on the Motorola side.

- 2.0 apps. not available in the Android Market. This one is obvious, but there is one app (a game) that I really liked (Battleship). Again, hopefully this will be moot if/when Eris upgrades to 2.0, but even if they don't it was just a game. And some smart developer would likely develop it for 1.5...

- I liked the unlock screen better for the Droid. It was more stylish, and I liked the slide right to unlock as opposed to slide down... don't know why but I did. I also loved the slide left to silence. Eris does not have this. You either have to use the volume keys on the side of the phone to silence or open open the home screen and silence (which is what I do... I put a silence all widget on my main screen, so it's very quick, but still two steps vs. Droid's one). Again, no big deal, but something I did like about the Droid.

Now for the Pros on the Eris (or Cons for the Droid in my book):

- The BIGGEST deal and the one thing that made all the above SO minor for me is the sheer ergonomics of the phone. I know this is personal preference and not "fact," but the Droid was just uncomfortable for me. It was heavy in my front pocket (where I often carry my phone) and the shape of it also made it uncomfortable to carry. Snap on cases made it even worse, as they made the phone bigger and were in two parts because of the sliding keyboard. The Eris has great hand feel and the snap on case I got is awesome. It has a hard side for the back that slides into a belt clip for when I want to carry it on my belt of clip it to a pocket.

- I really like having the physical keys for the phone in the Eris. And the trackball is awesome (and "familiar" since I moved from a BB Curve) for the fine placement of the cursor when texting. The Droid did have that mouse pad thingy (I know that's not the technical term :-)), but I got to where I never used the sliding keyboard anyway, and I prefer the trackball.

- Ergonomics...

- Physical key placement is much better on the Eris. Namely I HATED where the "wake-up/sleep" button was on the Droid (top right)... or the Volume buttons (top right side)... take your pick, but they were way too close, and I always (and I mean ALWAYS) accidentally adjusted the volume with the way I intuitively held the Droid. Not a problem on the Eris, and I find the physical call end button, which is also the wake-up/sleep button just downright makes sense. It's easy. And just like a regular mobile phone, I can press the physical send button and my call log is launched. I didn't realize how much I would miss this when I first chose the Droid that doesn't have any physical phone buttons. And yes, I know there are widgets to add, but that physical button is darned easy to locate, and again, familiar. Just makes sense.

- Contact list has a last name first option... Yes, I realize that I could have "tricked" the Droid by simply loading the names how I wanted, but I like that you can choose with the Eris. Also, I simply don't remember and maybe Droid had this, but I can load a phone number in my Eris without loading it in my G-Mail account. I like this for some business contacts.

- Also on the contact list, the Eris has a "My Contact" card. The Droid made you load yourself as a "regular" contact. This didn't bother some folks I spoke with in other forums, but it bothered me... I hated logging into G-Mail and seeing myself as a contact. Seemed redundant. I got asked by several folks why load yourself into your own phone in the first place. Well, there is a fantastic app called Bump for sharing contact information quickly and to use it, you have to have your contact info. loaded. Again, with Eris, it's just a more streamline and intuitive approach than I thought it was in the Droid.

- Did I say Ergonomics already?

- The intuitive texting in the Eris is amazing. I really thought I'd miss the physical keyboard which is one reason I chose the Droid in the first place. Then I tried the Eris. Let me tell you... type without looking and the most garbled garbage you typed will "correct" itself to just the word you thought you were typing ALL THE TIME. I can't believe I'm saying this, but it's even easier than my BB Keyboard. I like it that much... Physical keyboard? Who needs one?

- GUI on Eris is cool... It's a gee-whiz kind of thing, and there was an App for it for the Droid, but that pinch-zoom is cool. Also, the e-mail and text apps. w/the Eris GUI are awesome. I love "flipping" through to find the message I want before launching the app. Reminds me of MS Preview or Mac Stacks. Just plain neat (though I do wish they were a bit smaller - like 1/2 page instead of a full page). And the frame placement of widgets is awesome w/this GUI.

- Finally the flip-clock/weather station. I liked the look of this App so much that when I had the Droid I purchased the one that looked like it from the Android Market place (so I obviously still have that). But I didn't know the one on the Eris did so much more... I didn't even know it until I saw a video on youtube when I was still doing comparisons... The clock ones are no big deal to me. They both had an alarm clock which I like, but with the Eris' "proprietary" one, you can do all kinds of time zones, countdowns, etc. But the Eris proprietary weather one is neat. You can load a whole bunch of cities and then flip through them. Great for planning trips.

- Finally, I'll say it one last time because for me, it makes all the other things go away... the sheer ergonomics of the Eris were better for me. I am just more comfortable with this phone in my hand, on my hip, or in my pocket, so I will be happier carrying and using it.

That's it! Thanks to all those who replied in helping me with my decision.
 
I switched from the Droid to the Eris mainly because I love the Eris form factor (Droid was like a brick) and I love the Eris on screen keyboard. I never used the Droid keyboard and the on screen stock Android keyboard is not nearly as good as the Eris keyboard. I had no issues with lag other than the occasional slowdown, battery life was great with the Eris (1 full day with moderate use...all I expected)

Unfortunately, the honeymoon ended when the Eris started locking up. Mostly it freezes at the start screen, but it did it once when I was on a call (I think the freeze had something to do with the proximity sensor) I can't 100% correlate the lockups, but I think it has to with when the phone screen is made active after being asleep (either because the proximity sensor disabled the screen or the phone is just asleep) Regardless of the cause, I find myself having to do a battery pull at least once a day (4 times in a day has been my record, it's been twice today)

I understand that these lockups were introduced with the last "update" HTC put out on 12/11 (which explains why all I read weer mostly glowing reviews from the early adaptors of the Eris)

I'm trying to wait until the update in Jan (22nd I believe) to see if it fixes my issues, but my 30 days is up today so I think I'm going to have see if they'll let me switch back to the Droid. It's my 2nd Eris and I've already switched from a Droid so I may be stuck.

Lag I can deal with (I actually expected way more lag in the Eris) but I can't have a phone that locks up multiple times a day. That may not be a deal-breaker for the OP given that a potential fix is due out in a few weeks, but it's something to be aware of
 
As the OP, I thought I'd do a follow-up. I did end up switching the Droid for the Eris. There are some definite pros and cons for each phone, but I'm glad I did the switch... sorry all you Droid lovers. I would recommend either phone, but for me I like the HTC Eris.

Having had both now for about a month, here is my final analysis. It's actually similar to the first, but there are a few additions.

On the Pro side of the Droid (or negative of the Eris, depending on how you look at it):

- The screen on the Droid is amazing. The Eris one is not bad, and is still a huge upgrade from any blackberry other than the storm, but it's smaller and less detailed than the Droid. Compare it more in quality to the iPhones, only still a tad smaller (but that makes it more comfortable to hold than either, IMO).

- The Droid is running 2.0 (and the Beta GPS turn by turn directions that goes with it) and the Eris runs 1.5. Rumors still abound that the Eris will be receiving 2.0 the first quarter of 2010, but as of today, it's still 1.5 for the Eris. If/when Eris is updated, hopefully this will be moot. But honestly, the turn by turn GPS feature, while neat, is not a necessity. I can still get all the directions, the addresses, street level views, etc. I just don't get that GPS function (and I have a Garmin, so again, no big deal for me). While I had the Droid, I did use this feature a couple of times and it wasn't perfect for me. The GPS signal would get lost and have to play catch up a few times and the voice was not pleasant. I ended up preferring to use Google on the Droid and then plugging the address into my Garmin. Again, I did this while I still had the Droid, so no loss for me w/the Eris (but it was cool).

- How the Android Market is displayed. I think this has to do with 2.0 vs. 1.5, but am not sure. It could be the browser, but again I just don't know. But the Droid display of the market place was better (again, in my opinion). I liked that you could seperate paid vs. free apps and the Eris' display does not have that. Also, in the Droid's display of the market, there were often screenshots. This isn't so on the Eris. Sometimes there is a link to a developers page that has screenshots, but it's an extra step that just wasn't there on the Droid. I'm hoping this is a 2.0 vs. 1.5 thing, but even not it's a minor thing for me. But again a + on the Motorola side.

- 2.0 apps. not available in the Android Market. This one is obvious, but there is one app (a game) that I really liked (Battleship). Again, hopefully this will be moot if/when Eris upgrades to 2.0, but even if they don't it was just a game. And some smart developer would likely develop it for 1.5...

- I liked the unlock screen better for the Droid. It was more stylish, and I liked the slide right to unlock as opposed to slide down... don't know why but I did. I also loved the slide left to silence. Eris does not have this. You either have to use the volume keys on the side of the phone to silence or open open the home screen and silence (which is what I do... I put a silence all widget on my main screen, so it's very quick, but still two steps vs. Droid's one). Again, no big deal, but something I did like about the Droid.

Now for the Pros on the Eris (or Cons for the Droid in my book):

- The BIGGEST deal and the one thing that made all the above SO minor for me is the sheer ergonomics of the phone. I know this is personal preference and not "fact," but the Droid was just uncomfortable for me. It was heavy in my front pocket (where I often carry my phone) and the shape of it also made it uncomfortable to carry. Snap on cases made it even worse, as they made the phone bigger and were in two parts because of the sliding keyboard. The Eris has great hand feel and the snap on case I got is awesome. It has a hard side for the back that slides into a belt clip for when I want to carry it on my belt of clip it to a pocket.

- I really like having the physical keys for the phone in the Eris. And the trackball is awesome (and "familiar" since I moved from a BB Curve) for the fine placement of the cursor when texting. The Droid did have that mouse pad thingy (I know that's not the technical term :-)), but I got to where I never used the sliding keyboard anyway, and I prefer the trackball.

- Ergonomics...

- Physical key placement is much better on the Eris. Namely I HATED where the "wake-up/sleep" button was on the Droid (top right)... or the Volume buttons (top right side)... take your pick, but they were way too close, and I always (and I mean ALWAYS) accidentally adjusted the volume with the way I intuitively held the Droid. Not a problem on the Eris, and I find the physical call end button, which is also the wake-up/sleep button just downright makes sense. It's easy. And just like a regular mobile phone, I can press the physical send button and my call log is launched. I didn't realize how much I would miss this when I first chose the Droid that doesn't have any physical phone buttons. And yes, I know there are widgets to add, but that physical button is darned easy to locate, and again, familiar. Just makes sense.

- Contact list has a last name first option... Yes, I realize that I could have "tricked" the Droid by simply loading the names how I wanted, but I like that you can choose with the Eris. Also, I simply don't remember and maybe Droid had this, but I can load a phone number in my Eris without loading it in my G-Mail account. I like this for some business contacts.

- Also on the contact list, the Eris has a "My Contact" card. The Droid made you load yourself as a "regular" contact. This didn't bother some folks I spoke with in other forums, but it bothered me... I hated logging into G-Mail and seeing myself as a contact. Seemed redundant. I got asked by several folks why load yourself into your own phone in the first place. Well, there is a fantastic app called Bump for sharing contact information quickly and to use it, you have to have your contact info. loaded. Again, with Eris, it's just a more streamline and intuitive approach than I thought it was in the Droid.

- Did I say Ergonomics already?

- The intuitive texting in the Eris is amazing. I really thought I'd miss the physical keyboard which is one reason I chose the Droid in the first place. Then I tried the Eris. Let me tell you... type without looking and the most garbled garbage you typed will "correct" itself to just the word you thought you were typing ALL THE TIME. I can't believe I'm saying this, but it's even easier than my BB Keyboard. I like it that much... Physical keyboard? Who needs one?

- GUI on Eris is cool... It's a gee-whiz kind of thing, and there was an App for it for the Droid, but that pinch-zoom is cool. Also, the e-mail and text apps. w/the Eris GUI are awesome. I love "flipping" through to find the message I want before launching the app. Reminds me of MS Preview or Mac Stacks. Just plain neat (though I do wish they were a bit smaller - like 1/2 page instead of a full page). And the frame placement of widgets is awesome w/this GUI.

- Finally the flip-clock/weather station. I liked the look of this App so much that when I had the Droid I purchased the one that looked like it from the Android Market place (so I obviously still have that). But I didn't know the one on the Eris did so much more... I didn't even know it until I saw a video on youtube when I was still doing comparisons... The clock ones are no big deal to me. They both had an alarm clock which I like, but with the Eris' "proprietary" one, you can do all kinds of time zones, countdowns, etc. But the Eris proprietary weather one is neat. You can load a whole bunch of cities and then flip through them. Great for planning trips.

- Finally, I'll say it one last time because for me, it makes all the other things go away... the sheer ergonomics of the Eris were better for me. I am just more comfortable with this phone in my hand, on my hip, or in my pocket, so I will be happier carrying and using it.

That's it! Thanks to all those who replied in helping me with my decision.

I agree with you 110%. Ergonomics and the Send & End/Sleep buttons were a big factor in my decision as well. Also, the HTC update to 2.x is not a rumor...I was told that by someone at HTC. "First quarter of 2010".

Can't wait. If they could give us 2.1, that would be even sweeter.
 
Forgot to mention...

Don't know how/why this happened, but a HUGE surprise/error when I made the switch... I made my "Droid" purchase over the internet, so my $100 rebate applied instantly making the phone $199. Then I got another $50 off for either my new every two or a govt. discount since I'm on Active Duty in the military. Can't remember, but I think it was the new every two. But when I got to the store and did the exchange the refund came up as $199 (the cost of the Eris prior to the $100 rebate) - then they gave me $50 again (a wash since I used it to purchase a 16GB card for the Eris). But the kicker was that I still got the rebate form. I questioned (and even insisted this was an error) with the sales rep. (hey, my integrity is worth way more than a lousy $100) and they even called over a store manager, but they both insisted the codes on everything was valid, thanked me for my service and sent me on my way. So basically I got the Eris for free.

And I also forgot to mention I liked that I was able to return the holster for the Droid and car charger. I purchased another holster for the same price for the Eris, but the car charger I had from my BB (mini USB) works on the Eris as opposed to the micro USB on the Droid. I hear the talk of the "industry standard" going to micro USB for all mobile phone chargers, but I'm not holding my breath. And I'll need a new phone in a couple of years anyway...

And I really did appreciate everyone's feedback. Thanks to all.
 
It sounds to me like it is WE that should be thanking YOU. Thank you for your service to our country and all that you do.

May God bless you and keep you safe.
 
Quote from wcramernc: "...Also, the HTC update to 2.x is not a rumor...I was told that by someone at HTC. "First quarter of 2010".

Can't wait. If they could give us 2.1, that would be even sweeter."


Yeah, a Verizon rep (actually a district manager who's kid goes to school with my kid) told me the same thing. But until it actually happens I'm not holding my breath. I look forward to it and do think it's on its way, but until it happens...

I also still don't know if that will change the way the Android Market gets displayed. Again, not a deal breaker for me, but I just don't know enough about the operating systems to know if its a web type display or a browser function. And I really don't know what the differences for 2.1 will be... That will have to be a different thread. And this phone already does WAY more than any BB I had, so I'm pleased as punch!
 
i have in fact read that the screen shots in the Droid marketplace are in fact due to 2.0. it's a feature of that version. so we should get that soon.
 
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