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Apple files another lawsuit against htc.....

face palm...smh @apple c'mon... I already received mine and i like it. I hope this doesn't slow down(even more) other costumers from getting theirs.
 
No worries as long as HTC has a demand in the United States for their devices which there is <------- they makes great phones. This is just another way for Apple to hold up the EVO from dominating the United States :D Google should really step in and put a stop to all of this infringement frenzy, Google should be suing Apple of certain patients, not going to elaborate on them most of you know what they are. Just putting in my two cents

Already got my EVO :D you mad Apple?
 
Apple is no longer innovative. They have to find a way to get ahead somehow.

They are trying to slow down HTC because they are moving forward...
 
Unfortunately apple has a valid argument here. They own the patent. Maybe HTC can change them all pretty fast.
 
Did anyone notice that the EVO V 4G is also in this list?

EDIT: Was in the EVO V forums, now it's not. My bad.
 
Darkencypher said:
Unfortunately apple has a valid argument here. They own the patent. Maybe HTC can change them all pretty fast.
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HTC has complied with the ruling. When the devices were initially stopped, everything was found to be changed that needed to. They are not infringing, apple is just playing politics.

The patent system is completely broken in regards to this sort of thing, it's ridiculous that a company can claim that the other is infringing and stop the import without any proof. In fact it caused a major mess with the Evo LTE and everything was in compliance, how is that valid?
 
The current Virgin Mobile rom on the Evo V has the application association entry under settings which the ITC has already ruled successfully circumvents Crapple's patent.
 
agentc13 said:
HTC has complied with the ruling. When the devices were initially stopped, everything was found to be changed that needed to. They are not infringing, apple is just playing politics.

The patent system is completely broken in regards to this sort of thing, it's ridiculous that a company can claim that the other is infringing and stop the import without any proof. In fact it caused a major mess with the Evo LTE and everything was in compliance, how is that valid?
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I never said it was fair. I'm just saying they own it so they can use it as they please. Believe me, this crap that apple does PISSES me off. I'm worried I wont be able to get this phone. The patent system is horrifically broken.
 
Darkencypher said:
Unfortunately apple has a valid argument here. They own the patent. Maybe HTC can change them all pretty fast.
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Yeah, here's the thing - the ruling came down last year, HTC had until April to comply as a grace period.

They've been in compliance on new shipments before the deadline. The deadline triggered the inspection. The inspected units passed - no surprise there.

BTW - the patent in question was filed in 1996 and wasn't granted until 1999 when the patent laws changed. HTC phones have always violated the patent until last year.

Microsoft Windows completely violates this phoney baloney patent, but it's not in Apple's interest to try to take them on - so they are picking and choosing targets based on possible profitability of the lawsuits - not based on actual damages done.

Were it for actual damages, they'd have gone after Windws years ago.

And Microsoft lawyers fighting this in the USA over 10 years ago would have won, and Apple would have been laughed out of court - because Microsoft was violating the patent before the patent was filed for.

Apple has a patent here - they do not have the intellectual property involved that patents are supposed to protect.

Ever hear of the bread freshening method?

Patent US6080436 - Bread refreshing method - Google Patents

It's a dot com days patent on making toast if your bread is stale. That's how screwed up the patent system became.

This today is Apple's patent on how to make toast.

And HTC changed the toaster months ago.

This is all baloney sausage.
 
Darkencypher said:
I never said it was fair. I'm just saying they own it so they can use it as they please. Believe me, this crap that apple does PISSES me off. I'm worried I wont be able to get this phone. The patent system is horrifically broken.
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But HTC is not infringing on it. That was decided and the phones were released without modification. That's the main point I was trying to say. ;)

And EarlyMon ninja's me with a much better answer! ;)
 
yeah apple is bein the 2 year old who always throws the temper tantrum and HTC is the mature parent. Apple needs a time out lol. Apple's just a big jerk and ive hated them ever since I got a pc with a passion off a thousand burning blue stars
 
Worry about getting a phone is the consumer reaction that Apple wants.

HTC was setting growth records for each quarter last year until the ruling against them hit. Because of consumer fear, sales dropped like a rock the month that hit and their stock tanked.

During the recent inspection embargo, their stock dropped again the day that the story hit, but this time, not nearly as much. Instead, the One series demand was high enough that people (some from our forums :)) wrote congress calling for oversight and an end to the nonsense. Customs accelerated inspections and the logjam cleared.

Now all Apple is trying for is another logjam to create fear, uncertainty and doubt. I own one of the new ones, I have studied the patent in detail and there is no way that HTC is in violation, so there is no way that they can prove a violation exists.

I suggest writing your congress critters again. Demand an answer as to why Apple can do this for their phones made in China against a Taiwanese company whose research and development arm is located in the United States and is 100% Yankee Doodle, and why you, the taxpayer, has to support these shenanigans while you, the consumer, are robbed of your choice to participate in the economy by making your planned purchase. And point out the irony that Apple doesn't seem to care that Microsoft is going unscathed by Apple lawyers.

And ask them if Apple was one of their campaign contributors.
 
Yeah something tells me that this is just going to be over ruled especially since the devices were cleared the first time. They're almost certain to be cleared again. The patent system in this country is so broken. It's mind boggling to me that such abstract ideas can be patented. At least an official halt to the imports hasn't been put in place though, so hopefully the shipments can make it in on time.
 
It's somewhat mentioned by others, but not in these exact words.

Isn't part of owning a patent that you take on the responsibility to protect it as well? Isn't part of protecting the patent that you bring ALL violators of that patent to court or at least collect licensing costs from them (if an out of court agreement is made). If that's the case, and it can be proven MS is violating the patent and Apple has chosen to ignore them for bigger fish is there provision to have the patent revoked?
 
mplevy said:
It's somewhat mentioned by others, but not in these exact words.

Isn't part of owning a patent that you take on the responsibility to protect it as well? Isn't part of protecting the patent that you bring ALL violators of that patent to court or at least collect licensing costs from them (if an out of court agreement is made). If that's the case, and it can be proven MS is violating the patent and Apple has chosen to ignore them for bigger fish is there provision to have the patent revoked?
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I know for a fact (from my IP attorney) that THAT is exactly how the law used to work, although the wording and actions are tricky.

Bottom line, if it can be shown that you knowingly abandoned your need to protect the IP, then you can't get a do-over. Tons of caveats apply and you need an IP attorney to get it all straight.

I'm not an attorney or clear on the details, but I do think that Microsoft skating may play a part, that's why I tossed it out there. ;)
 
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