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groggy

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Hi
I am using zdbox and use the app killer to kill my apps and it kills all but the ones I want running for example juice defender , mail , go SMS etc and it gets it down to about 8 but then slowly up to around 50 apps eventually start up on there own even if I havnt used them. I'm sure this is what is causing my severe battery drain.
Is there anyway to stop this on my desire s?

Cheers
 
Hi groggy,
I'm not a droid guru so hang with me here if i trail off into nowhere. I see that you say the problem is that your task killer is killing apps and they come back to life, and that you want only 8 running most of the time, is this counting the OS, dialer, and the other dozen or so things that are nessicary to keep your phone working? also I looked at your last dozen or so posts, mostly about task killer, battery life problems, and one in there about auto updating some other app. It is very possible that you have configured multiple apps to auto update and as they poll for data on intervals a kernal shows up as open, its also possible that by force closing instead of letting idle you are hurting your battery life worse by forcing them to restart as opose to pick up where they left off. Now honestly 50 apps seems a little bit high, maybe instead of force closing them all you should look at them individualy, perhaps check auto update or push settings and if you dont use it uninstall it, a little cleanup persay. Also look towards ad-supported apps, they will often poll just to check in for new ads, not saying they are all evil but I have experienced one or two that were worse than the rest. Aslo remember battery health starts at the charger, don't leave it connected all day when it doesnt need it and avoid high heat etc...

Hope I may have had some decent insight for ya,
John
 
john58ford said:
Hi groggy,
I'm not a droid guru so hang with me here if i trail off into nowhere. I see that you say the problem is that your task killer is killing apps and they come back to life, and that you want only 8 running most of the time, is this counting the OS, dialer, and the other dozen or so things that are nessicary to keep your phone working? also I looked at your last dozen or so posts, mostly about task killer, battery life problems, and one in there about auto updating some other app. It is very possible that you have configured multiple apps to auto update and as they poll for data on intervals a kernal shows up as open, its also possible that by force closing instead of letting idle you are hurting your battery life worse by forcing them to restart as opose to pick up where they left off. Now honestly 50 apps seems a little bit high, maybe instead of force closing them all you should look at them individualy, perhaps check auto update or push settings and if you dont use it uninstall it, a little cleanup persay. Also look towards ad-supported apps, they will often poll just to check in for new ads, not saying they are all evil but I have experienced one or two that were worse than the rest. Aslo remember battery health starts at the charger, don't leave it connected all day when it doesnt need it and avoid high heat etc...

Hope I may have had some decent insight for ya,
John
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hi john
very interesting indeed.
i seem to remember checking auto update somwere for all apps. ive not got time at this time of the morning but i will have a look at work and see what i find later.
i will repirt back!
many thanks
 
Some may disagree, but I would say 'don't use a task killer'. It will drain your battery a lot more if you kill them and they restart.

If you root you can freeze certain apps and processes and they won't start at all. But be careful doing this 'cos some things are vital.
 
groggy said:
Ok so just let all the apps run constant?
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Most of the apps that are "running" aren't, they are just in the memory and not using any resources.

They are cached so when you open them they open fast, and thus you use less resources to open it.

So the argument made is you use more power to close apps and then reopen them that to rust let them sit in an inactive cached state.

But, when you close apps don't just hit the home button, press back till it closes.

You can use apps like SystemPanelLite Task Manager, also has a paid app, to monitor your apps and you can ens apps that are still running, cause you never went back back till it closed, these are under active apps.
 
ok cheers all
i had a clean up before ans also stopped pressing the "kill all tasks" button and it seems to have improved but i will know for sure after a full charge and full days use tomorrow.
what does systempanel do exactly FoX777? is it similar to ZDbox?
 
groggy said:
ok cheers all
i had a clean up before ans also stopped pressing the "kill all tasks" button and it seems to have improved but i will know for sure after a full charge and full days use tomorrow.
what does systempanel do exactly FoX777? is it similar to ZDbox?
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For what you need to use it for, yeah its the similar. Your one is more feature rich.
 
Glad that cleaning up and cuting back on the killer seems to have helped you out, I would have been more forward in my first post about killing the killer but didn't want this to turn into a flame match(like the one notebook linked), essentialy if you clean up your system and use good apps you will have good battery, how has it done since your full charge? also if you can find apps that complete more than one purpose you can save some space too, like ASTRO, file manager and user operated program manager, just when you need it, and it doesnt eat up the CPU or RAM unless its open.
 
john58ford said:
Glad that cleaning up and cuting back on the killer seems to have helped you out, I would have been more forward in my first post about killing the killer but didn't want this to turn into a flame match(like the one notebook linked), essentialy if you clean up your system and use good apps you will have good battery, how has it done since your full charge? also if you can find apps that complete more than one purpose you can save some space too, like ASTRO, file manager and user operated program manager, just when you need it, and it doesnt eat up the CPU or RAM unless its open.
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hi
yes it seems better now and usually gets me through the day. the main thing that eats the battery now according to the settings is the display which i have turned right down but i suppose thats as good as it gets now.
cheers
 
I had almost forgotten about this thread, thanks for letting us know we helped. It's possible now that you should explore things causing wake time if you feel like getting frisky on it, just an idea. If you have it awake with the screen on all day playing games and surfing the web though your already most likely as good as it gets. Here's the begining of the next journey, after you have left your phone off the charger for a decent amount of time when you haven't fidled with it and woke up the screen much, open up the battery use monitor, tap the graph at the top and look at your awake time vs screen on time, you should try to get those two bars to look as similar as possible, your usage monitor probably wont show all the processes that hide in the back ground like social widgets and poorly designed apps since most of them are using the core OS features anyhow with very little actual code of their own. you should dig around and find the stuff that wakes up your phone when you dont and adjust accodingly. for example, I don't add contacts or calendar events often so I opened dialer>contacts>menu soft key>accounts and disabled my google syncs for calendar, books, gmail and contacts, this has reduced the dialer process battery draw significantly as all four would check for updates every time I used the dialer keeping my phone awake for much longer after I finished my call and shut off the screen (btw with gmail disabled I still recieve mail, but it doesnt update my sent automatically if I send from my computer), your steps to kill these may be different as I'm on a different device but it's the idea of it I'm trying to convey, none of those apps do I fiddle with online enough to want the phone constantly looking for changes.

good luck, John
 
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