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For the record, on my 2 year old Galaxy S (released May 2010), BBC Player shows up as compatible. 4od and iTV doesn't show up, but I also have Firefox and Flash Player installed. As I said, simply get a phone whose hardware is comparable to iPhone, and you'll get performance and apps that are comparable to iPhones.
 
4od website says their app was tested on a Galaxy SII.
4oD on Android | 4od – Apps

Based on listed requirements, even my Galaxy S can run it, if not actually optimized for it.

Demand 5's website is saying the Android app will be released "this summer". I don't have access to it since it seems to be a local channel for you guys.
 
chanchan05 said:
For the record, on my 2 year old Galaxy S (released May 2010), BBC Player shows up as compatible. 4od and iTV doesn't show up, but I also have Firefox and Flash Player installed. As I said, simply get a phone whose hardware is comparable to iPhone, and you'll get performance and apps that are comparable to iPhones.
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Do you get iplayer in USA then?

But of course flash will be pulled for the s2 like adobe said it wil not support older devices which was sold after
 
Whatsuppppp said:
It doesn't have 4od or demand 5. Post the pic and prove it

And it's say nexus has a hd screen might see what the s2 can do but Samsung take too long to update there phones if nexus has jellybean Samsung shouldmofmhad jellybean already let alone beta testing
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Samsung puts TouchWiz on top of Jellybean. Touchwiz puts more features and more settings over stock Android. Many things that need a third party app on stock Android can be done native to TouchWIz. For example a lockscreen that has music player controls, widgets and app shortcuts can only be achieved on a Nexus device using Widgetlocker from Play Store. Samsung has it built in. Then you have to test it again using device specific hardware.

Google releases only the Android OS base for the Nexus device. Then Samsung will have to edit it so that it will have the driver for the different hardware on the SII. For example the SII has a different camera, screen, button layout etc. Due to the fact that Android is a mobile OS and cannot be too big, each Android installer is device specific. You can't use the Android installer on a Galaxy Nexus for example on an SII. Unlike Windows where you can use the same installer CD for any brand or model of computer.
 
chanchan05 said:
Samsung puts TouchWiz on top of Jellybean. Touchwiz puts more features and more settings over stock Android. Many things that need a third party app on stock Android can be done native to TouchWIz. For example a lockscreen that has music player controls, widgets and app shortcuts can only be achieved on a Nexus device using Widgetlocker from Play Store. Samsung has it built in. Then you have to test it again using device specific hardware.

Google releases only the Android OS base for the Nexus device. Then Samsung will have to edit it so that it will have the driver for the different hardware on the SII. For example the SII has a different camera, screen, button layout etc. Due to the fact that Android is a mobile OS and cannot be too big, each Android installer is device specific. You can't use the Android installer on a Galaxy Nexus for example on an SII. Unlike Windows where you can use the same installer CD for any brand or model of computer.
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Ok gotcha so you recommend an s2 with bbc iplayer 4od itv player demand 5 firefox flash

What about adobe pulling flash support is this on s2 as well?

What's the decent price someone to buy an s2 for uk you recommending this over a nexus as I am now going by your expertise of which phone I will buy from this point
 
I'm not in the USA. I'm in Asia. I see the BBC Player app, not sure how different it is from BBC iPlayer. It says its made by BBC anyway, so its an official app.

As far as I know, Adobe said it will no longer update Flash, but will not pull it out. And would it really matter? iPhones NEVER had flash in the first place.
 
chanchan05 said:
I'm not in the USA. I'm in Asia. I see the BBC Player app, not sure how different it is from BBC iPlayer. It says its made by BBC anyway, so its an official app.

As far as I know, Adobe said it will no longer update Flash, but will not pull it out. And would it really matter? iPhones NEVER had flash in the first place.
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Yes because 4od app needs flash to work on android so it will matter

Yes because they made there players specific to work on its without flash so it didn't matter if iPhone had flash or not
 
Whatsuppppp said:
Yes because 4od app needs flash to work on android so it will matter
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AFAIK it would only need flash if you watch it over the website. However if its an app, it won't need flash. An example would be the Youtube app. You need flash to run the website on the web browser on older Androids, but the app works even if Flash doesn't.
 
chanchan05 said:
AFAIK it would only need flash if you watch it over the website. However if its an app, it won't need flash. An example would be the Youtube app. You need flash to run the website on the web browser on older Androids, but the app works even if Flash doesn't.
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So why have they got this on there website btw it's not an app it's there website that hey have made specific for android devices which will have flash installed they are not making an app for android they don't want to don't ask me why sales perhaps too much issues maybe



Minimum Requirements
Android
Mobile 4oD is supported on devices running Android 2.2 and above. You'll need Flash 10.1 or above installed on your device.


So they pull flash then the phone is once again a useless phone same as the galaxy mini
 
Nope. Adobe will only stop development of higher version Flash for Android, but it doesn't mean Flash will stop working. For example latest Flash for PC is 10.4, but Flash on Android is still working despite Adobe actually having pulled out from Android development months ago. Basically this means that as long as 4oD supports 10.1, it will work on your phone, unless 4oD upgrades to a version which doesn't support 10.1...At that point, it will be similar to iPhone's app development: They will make an app that has no need for Flash.

The best way here is to email 4oD and ask about your predicament, if they intend to in the future, move away from using Flash on Android, like how they handle iPhone app. However, if you are really worried, then get an iPhone. It really won't be a problem. If Android cannot do what you need, or you are afraid for future support. Sometimes, Android isn't for everybody, the same way iPhones aren't for everybody as well.
 
chanchan05 said:
Nope. Adobe will only stop development of higher version Flash for Android, but it doesn't mean Flash will stop working. For example latest Flash for PC is 10.4, but Flash on Android is still working despite Adobe actually having pulled out from Android development months ago. Basically this means that as long as 4oD supports 10.1, it will work on your phone, unless 4oD upgrades to a version which doesn't support 10.1...At that point, it will be similar to iPhone's app development: They will make an app that has no need for Flash.

The best way here is to email 4oD and ask about your predicament, if they intend to in the future, move away from using Flash on Android, like how they handle iPhone app. However, if you are really worried, then get an iPhone. It really won't be a problem. If Android cannot do what you need, or you are afraid for future support. Sometimes, Android isn't for everybody, the same way iPhones aren't for everybody as well.
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Great advice not biased at all something to defiantly think about and consider

You are right in contacting channel 4 something I will do and ask about there continue in support android even when flash has been pulled yes that is indeed channel 4 as well as itv and the bbc all which at the moment require flash on android devices for there services to work

I am worried as paying for phones to do what I want is a big deal to me something which I'm sure you can understand price factor what the phone can do what uses the phone can handle etc

I'm curious do you know why they can build stuff for iPhone like the 4od itv demand 5 and not really care to build it for the android platform even though android phones dominate the world wide market????? I would likemyourminsight into this

Also chan am I right in thinking if I installed cm9 for the mini it allows me to install flash and get some of the services working above I know there is issue with the camera working etc.


Also there was a method posted by the xda devolopres a video tutorial here the link that seemed to get flash on armv6 in this case my galaxy mini to enable to have flash installed via an apkmfile then use of the uc browser I have seen it working but when I try her method it still asking for flash any ideas here chan


I would like your point ofmviewmon all the above and your feed back any way here is the link to the tutorial.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goc_mHwLmBc
What's you view on installing cm10 on my galaxy mini and you youmthinkmitsna good idea link me to a tutorial for a beginner on how to Acheveb this many thanks indeed


And why oh why would the above apps need flash to be installed to work the app on google play needs flash the itv app needs flash even though it's a app why would they on one side have apps which work on the iPhone with no flash and on the android side they need flash and yeh there are apps too
 
1. Installing cm9 needs a lot of knowledge on rooting and flashing. A mistake in flashing could turn your phone into a nice paperweight.

2. Getting Flash on armv6 won't really yield optimal results. It would work intermittently and more often than not you may encounter stuff that could make the browser crash or just act up because the hardware isn't enough. Keep in mind that while you can hack Android to an extent that's almost PC like and to levels iOS jailbreakers can only hope, you are still limited by your hardware, thus not all hacks are stable. Just like on a PC, no amount of hacking can make Crysis run smoothly on an HP Mini.

2. They are simply probably linking you to the online flash videos to download, which means you'll need flash. The difference between Apple apps and Android apps is that Apple apps are much bigger, and the developer includes all the necessary items inside the app for it to run (basically they put some sort of flash capable player in their app. At least that would be my guess). Android apps on the other hand are designed to use the phone's inbuilt features (Flash is on the phone for example, not on the app) so the apps can be smaller.
 
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