Ralkkai
Android Enthusiast
i tested it on xaelith's first version and it was no go but i haven't tried it on his 2nd one
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Root [BACKUP] Sprint FG11 stock-rooted+
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i tested it on xaelith's first version and it was no go but i haven't tried it on his 2nd one
Ralkkai
Android Enthusiast
this is kind of becoming off topic but i just tested it and it is very possible to run an android installation from computer but between needing wifi and the actual calling feature not working right, it's gonna be some work but if someone or even I could figure it out it could open alot of venues up as far as testing roms in a sandbox environment. idk just a thought and i dont even think this is the right place to post this but we were talking about it yesterday so i figured id share it
DMajor239
Android Expert
xaelith
Android Enthusiast
Ehh.....I'd say no more risky than loading an untested ROM or backup image to your phone.
I've already loaded it, but since I had FG11 to begin with, I haven't noticed any differences.
If you do do it, you have to use Terminal Emulator, and you have to make sure to type the commands EXACT, while changing the filename to reflect Sprint vs. Boost. For me, when I extracted the baseband zip, it extracted the baseband to its own folder, so for example, the instructions say something like "type dd if=/sdcard/basebandFG11.img...", and instead I had to type dd if=sdcard/basebandFG11/basebandFG11.img.
Otherwise, easy-peasy
Plus, if I can get this danged image to work, I will be including the baseband update file.
xaelith
Android Enthusiast
While the subject is on my mind, I'm thinking of doing one of two things for the v3 update, and would like you guys to chime in with your opinion.
Option 1:
I create a two-part installer, one being the backup image, and the other being the rooter/goodies installer. I'm thinking the reason root isn't working for some reason with just the image is that somehow the files necessary for root access are getting messed up or deleted altogether somewhere in the process of when I test the image on my own phone, and when others load it onto their phones.
Option 2:
I write a thorough, step-by-step guide of exactly what I did to achieve root along with the update. It would mean I'd have to go through the whole process a fourth time with my device, so I can be very precise with my instructions, but the advantage this option has over the others is that I might be able to better pinpoint where things are going sideways for others.
Anyway, those are my thoughts. What say you, guinea pigs?
Which option would you prefer, and why?
Option 1:
I create a two-part installer, one being the backup image, and the other being the rooter/goodies installer. I'm thinking the reason root isn't working for some reason with just the image is that somehow the files necessary for root access are getting messed up or deleted altogether somewhere in the process of when I test the image on my own phone, and when others load it onto their phones.
Option 2:
I write a thorough, step-by-step guide of exactly what I did to achieve root along with the update. It would mean I'd have to go through the whole process a fourth time with my device, so I can be very precise with my instructions, but the advantage this option has over the others is that I might be able to better pinpoint where things are going sideways for others.
Anyway, those are my thoughts. What say you, guinea pigs?
Which option would you prefer, and why?
PH8AL
Android Enthusiast
Actually not so little. Several files/folders in an img with a total size of 19.53mb.
Out of curiosity I had a look around in it.
It is the firmware for the radio and unless the phone has more than one transceiver it is for everything.
They are also completely interchangeable wit any version of the rom Kernel from any of the updates.
I put my phone into airplane mode and installed the FG11 baseband on a boost TU to check the file integrity. It changed it in about phone. I almost tried taking it out of airplane mode to see what happens but punked at the thought of what could happen.
Ralkkai
Android Enthusiast
You are definitely alot more knowledgeable with all this lol. i had basically gathered that the baseband runs the phones radio(s) so i gues i still have a lot of learning to do
Ralkkai
Android Enthusiast
While the subject is on my mind, I'm thinking of doing one of two things for the v3 update, and would like you guys to chime in with your opinion.
Option 1:
I create a two-part installer, one being the backup image, and the other being the rooter/goodies installer. I'm thinking the reason root isn't working for some reason with just the image is that somehow the files necessary for root access are getting messed up or deleted altogether somewhere in the process of when I test the image on my own phone, and when others load it onto their phones.
Option 2:
I write a thorough, step-by-step guide of exactly what I did to achieve root along with the update. It would mean I'd have to go through the whole process a fourth time with my device, so I can be very precise with my instructions, but the advantage this option has over the others is that I might be able to better pinpoint where things are going sideways for others.
Anyway, those are my thoughts. What say you, guinea pigs?
I am going to be flashing MegaTron when it comes out but i might still have room to play around since i have a 32GB sd card with plenty of romm to store roms and whatnot, so i guess i'm wondering, will i lose cwm and what are the other risks? it almost seems like flashing to 2.3.6 and then installing root etc from there would be better, so maybe the first option. but then again thats kinda what me ad dmajor have bee ndoing the last couple of days in a roundabout way.
also another question would be could we jsut flash the new baseband sepearte so now im thinking a how-to....idk i dont know how yall can do this stuff day in and day out....my head hurts......
PH8AL
Android Enthusiast
Naw android noob learning on the fly. My pc background helps immensely. Old school pirate/encoder and web designer. Never been to school for any of it, learned the same way I am here out of need and boredom. Trust me my path is littered with destroyed, abused, and wore out machines.
xaelith Turning over a new leaf on this project
While the subject is on my mind, I'm thinking of doing one of two things for the v3 update, and would like you guys to chime in with your opinion.
Option 1:
I create a two-part installer, one being the backup image, and the other being the rooter/goodies installer. I'm thinking the reason root isn't working for some reason with just the image is that somehow the files necessary for root access are getting messed up or deleted altogether somewhere in the process of when I test the image on my own phone, and when others load it onto their phones.
Option 2:
I write a thorough, step-by-step guide of exactly what I did to achieve root along with the update. It would mean I'd have to go through the whole process a fourth time with my device, so I can be very precise with my instructions, but the advantage this option has over the others is that I might be able to better pinpoint where things are going sideways for others.
Anyway, those are my thoughts. What say you, guinea pigs?
I say #2 because of your reasoning and the perverse pleasure I will get knowing what you are doing and how mind numbing it will be.
xaelith
Android Enthusiast
Hahahahaha.
Well, there's always the unwritten Option #3, too, where I do both 1 and 2.When DMajor and Ralkkai reported that V2 still has root issues, I was thinking of converting this thread to a guide post, and then abandoning the project. But the success of the manual baseband update has renewed my interest.
niteNarmor
Android Expert
OK guys here's something for you. Yesterday I flashed bobz kernel and sort of screwed my radio up
I mean it was jumping all over the place. So for tonite I am back to stock 2.3.6 Fg11. Now the real kicker is, my radio was still not fully connecting. Didn't know why. So in talking with PH8AL, we decided to go ahead and re-flash are baseband updater. It was my file anyways with ALL the work being done by PH8AL. It actually fixed by radio issues. Thank you PH8AL for the hard work making the file and me for giving him the needed file (haha). It is safe as long as you follow the steps.
One more thing. Yes you have to unzip the file and yes it makes it own folder but if you want to follow the guide step by step like I wanted to, then open the new file up and move the basebandFG11.img file to your sdcard. Basically just take the file out of the folder and put it on your card. Then you can follow the guide step by step.
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I mean it was jumping all over the place. So for tonite I am back to stock 2.3.6 Fg11. Now the real kicker is, my radio was still not fully connecting. Didn't know why. So in talking with PH8AL, we decided to go ahead and re-flash are baseband updater. It was my file anyways with ALL the work being done by PH8AL. It actually fixed by radio issues. Thank you PH8AL for the hard work making the file and me for giving him the needed file (haha). It is safe as long as you follow the steps.
One more thing. Yes you have to unzip the file and yes it makes it own folder but if you want to follow the guide step by step like I wanted to, then open the new file up and move the basebandFG11.img file to your sdcard. Basically just take the file out of the folder and put it on your card. Then you can follow the guide step by step.
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niteNarmor
Android Expert
Thank you. Just be sure to give thanks to PH8AL for making the file and maybe including my edited post above yours as well. The instructional part.
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Ralkkai
Android Enthusiast
while we are on the subject, if i flash the FG11 baseband to my phone what does this do to any future rom flashing and whatnot? say im on $hevrom, which is for Boost and i am with Sprint, does this let my wifi/3g etc work better? and if i flash to anotehr rom, for instance to test what xaeith has in store next, will it keep the fg11 baseband? im only asking since ive bee nreading up on it in the forums its seems to suggest that you will keep said baseband but if you do a restore from a cwm backup you restore to a previous baseband? sorry if the question seems redundant or if it's been resolved in another thread.
xaelith
Android Enthusiast
The CWM restores don't touch the baseband, which is why I removed that from the "features" section of the OP.
So yes, if you flash the FG11 baseband, then flash $heverom, then flash something else, your baseband stays FG11.
niteNarmor
Android Expert
From my experience, flashing from rom to rom does not affect your baseband as that is not part of the file system. But yes if you restore to a previous back up, it will reset your baseband.
As far as the baseband having any effect on performance, that would be varied by phone. Like how much is currently on your phone and memory. Things like that.
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PH8AL
Android Enthusiast
Crap I can't sleep, our ac is on the fritz.
This may actually be some pertinent info in the near future. Devs working to include the oc kernel and the baseband as part of the Rom install.
Something else to add from nite and my convo earlier.
This is just how it is with home cooked software. Our devs are awesome, but on a budget and just a few people working together or individually you have to take bugs as par for the course.
All of our tools had to be ported to and tweaked to run with this device and all of them have bugs. Some are just flaws in the coding from who ever the original Dev was.
Nothing new in computing. Is it a reason not to do this stuff? NO! All the more reason. Some one has to figure this stuff out and bugs only get found the hard way. If not us who?
You just have to accept it and keep an eye out for oddities. And most important add what you observe some where here.
xaelith
Android Enthusiast
Very sage words of wisdom, sir. Quoted for truth.
PH8AL
Android Enthusiast
Sorry to hijack your thread with all this.
Expanding on my last paragraph.
I urge every one to start posting their method even to go as far as posting a separate thread just for it. Maybe ask the the staff for another subforum "All things root/method papers" or what not. (would hope some one could come up with a better name)
I know it means more work for the Devs, but benefits the community as a whole. I also wouldn't support it as a mandatory rule either.
Looking back to the early days of the Scene when we were just starting to experiment with encoding, video converting and bit torrent etc etc. The secrecy that came out of competition really held us back until a lot of pirates broke ranks with the Scene it's self and opened dozens of communities founded on not only sharing files but methods. For those who were there, we know how much of the commercial stuff out now and the huge leap in video function on the net is based on our work that was demonised at the time.
While rooting is different that it doesn't carry the stigma of being illegal its still an open source community that thrives on openness and Android is still in childhood now, what these devs are doing now is the foundation.
Yes all the extra info may confuse noobs, I say they are confused and going to ask questions anyway so lets make it easier to learn how to Dev and just answer the inevitable questions the same as now.
Expanding on my last paragraph.
I urge every one to start posting their method even to go as far as posting a separate thread just for it. Maybe ask the the staff for another subforum "All things root/method papers" or what not. (would hope some one could come up with a better name)
I know it means more work for the Devs, but benefits the community as a whole. I also wouldn't support it as a mandatory rule either.
Looking back to the early days of the Scene when we were just starting to experiment with encoding, video converting and bit torrent etc etc. The secrecy that came out of competition really held us back until a lot of pirates broke ranks with the Scene it's self and opened dozens of communities founded on not only sharing files but methods. For those who were there, we know how much of the commercial stuff out now and the huge leap in video function on the net is based on our work that was demonised at the time.
While rooting is different that it doesn't carry the stigma of being illegal its still an open source community that thrives on openness and Android is still in childhood now, what these devs are doing now is the foundation.
Yes all the extra info may confuse noobs, I say they are confused and going to ask questions anyway so lets make it easier to learn how to Dev and just answer the inevitable questions the same as now.
xaelith
Android Enthusiast
No worries, PH8AL. If I'd had a problem with it, I would have done something about it by now
. As a matter of fact, I like hearing about and reading other peoples' input, off-topic or not because it helps me expand my own knowledge.And, as much as I hate to admit it, even though I jokingly said I might do both a few posts ago, I think even then, I had already decided that it was the course I'm going to take with the next release.
Ralkkai
Android Enthusiast
after waking up and showering and getting my first coffee for the day i log onto the forums and read PH8AL's over-the-top compelling rant about piracy and the scene and i am reminded why I love the linux community. in alot of ways linux was designed so computer guys can break the rules legally and for the most part when linux was ported to cellular technology the mentality came along for the ride. it's why i wanted an android instead of an iphone (that and i loath Apple.) i knew android was linux. i didn't know much about rooting and the immense freedom that my TU was about to give me when i bought it. i knew smartphones were getting smarter but, if we can consider where we're at as the tip of the iceburg, and with what PH8AL said being truth then i can't wait to see what's to come. just last night i added the ability to tether my phone, even though sprint doesn't like it. it wasnt anything fancy just an app but the fact is it's there.
i think there should be a subforum for tips and tricks and methods and a full on series of howto guides, such as Loota's Odin flashing guide. that way it'll free up alot of dev time for developing and free up alot of noob time from searching through the forums and it'll open the necessary venues for those of us who want to get our hands dirty.
i think there should be a subforum for tips and tricks and methods and a full on series of howto guides, such as Loota's Odin flashing guide. that way it'll free up alot of dev time for developing and free up alot of noob time from searching through the forums and it'll open the necessary venues for those of us who want to get our hands dirty.
xaelith
Android Enthusiast
Check this thread. The only difference is instead of typing "basebandFF27", you'll wanna type "basebandFG11". Thanks to niteNarmor for the baseband file, and PH8AL for the instructions.
