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[Battery] Fixes and Tips

Mondidroid said:
Just spitballing here, but there have been mentions that the reported low signal strength is a software issue. If power is being boosted to compensate for the reported low signal strength, then it stands to reason that when the signal strength reporting is fixed battery life could improve as a result.
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Is there a signal strength issue?

I couldn't get 3G at my desk at work, while the Droid could. Verizon modified my PRL to a "hybrid" one, which also pulls from Alltel towers.

They explained that my Droid was pulling from a hybrid PRL, and that not all Alltel towers have been converted to Verizon yet, so they were being excluded from the Incredible's pool of towers.

After this, I have not had 1 dropped call, or any issue with voice calls, OR data...this is traveling 3 hours over the weekend also.
 
I have noticed that my battery time has gone way up as well...

I have had 3 or 4 full charges (can't remember exactly) so far since getting the phone last Wednesday. Battery life has gotten better every time.

I have had the phone unplugged since yesterday at 7AMish. Total up time of 1 day, 9 hours, 38 minutes and still have 40%+ battery left.

I have had Wifi on for at home, mail, twitter, facebook notifications all on. Also sent numerous texts, average 1-2 bars on screen.

I do kill applications when done with them via Open Advanced Task Killer.

That said, I don't think the battery is a huge problem.
 
This simply cannot be stated enough apparently.

Any of your "personal experiences" under completely uncontrolled test conditions do not change FACTS. Just read a little, you'll learn something. Google it and skip any place that has "forum" in the name:

Charging lithium-ion batteries

"[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Lithium-ion is a very clean system and does not need priming as nickel-based batteries do. The 1st charge is no different to the 5th or the 50th charge. Stickers instructing to charge the battery for 8 hours or more for the first time may be a leftover from the nickel battery days."


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jamor said:
Good to hear. I get 20+ hours with heavy use.
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I think you should qualify your battery statements by mentioning if you turn off mobile networks etc.

Some people claiming outrageous battery times because they turn off 3g, no refresh with networks lower volume, no haptic feedback, no vibrate , lowest backlighting.
 
I turned off mobile networks to always on setting and went from 6 hour battery (100 to 10 pct)

to an 8 hr battery.

Still not good enough and frankly my messages were arriving late and I was not too happy with the phone.

I hope the signal update helps, that may very well be the problem since I am in a marginal signal area.
 
Today was the first day what I would consider "normal use" (the first 5 days I was constantly doing something on it :) and had to charge it more frequently. Today however was a different story...I just now plugged in to recharge after 20hrs with 22% battery left still. This is with wifi and blue tooth toggled off and everything else on.
 
jfunk said:
This simply cannot be stated enough apparently.

Any of your "personal experiences" under completely uncontrolled test conditions do not change FACTS. Just read a little, you'll learn something. Google it and skip any place that has "forum" in the name:

Charging lithium-ion batteries

"[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Lithium-ion is a very clean system and does not need priming as nickel-based batteries do. The 1st charge is no different to the 5th or the 50th charge. Stickers instructing to charge the battery for 8 hours or more for the first time may be a leftover from the nickel battery days."[/FONT]
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Fair enough, but the "facts" in my situations were that I'd had all my phones for several weeks, prior to buying additional batteries for them. None of the new batteries, be it OEM or 3rd party, would last over 8-12 hrs while "idle"on my desk (work from home). As an engineer, I tend to be methodical about my evaluation process. I think I'd be able to factor in my usage in determining if it made a difference with a 2-3x gain in battery life. In no case did any purchased battery last as long as the original, on its first use.
 
colnago said:
Fair enough, but the "facts" in my situations were that I'd had all my phones for several weeks, prior to buying additional batteries for them. None of the new batteries, be it OEM or 3rd party, would last over 8-12 hrs while "idle"on my desk (work from home). As an engineer, I tend to be methodical about my evaluation process. I think I'd be able to factor in my usage in determining if it made a difference with a 2-3x gain in battery life. In no case did any purchased battery last as long as the original, on its first use.
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As an engineer, I'd think you understand the importance of an actual controlled test and know the obvious differences between it and your own observations, no matter how careful they may be.

Especially when there is available credible documentation that basically says what you think you are witnessing is pretty much physically impossible.

I'm not saying you didn't buy new batteries that didn't last as long the first day you used them as your older batteries. Your report about what you saw may very well be factual. But certainly, as an engineer, you must be able to understand why the correlations apparent in those limited observations by you are no evidence of causation, especially when chemical engineering facts available regarding exactly how these devices function completely dismiss your observations as impossible. (edit: conclusions as impossible, not observations)

Nobody is saying you're lying about what you saw. What we are saying is that if you read about what a lithium ion battery is, you will see that the explanation of your observations is incorrect. Something else besides "conditioning" is at play here, because conditioning simply doesn't exist (for these batteries).
 
With the newness dissipating I'm getting a full day of my normal smartphone usage, coming from a Curve. I'm satisfied with the current capacity and likely won't get an extended battery. YMMV.
 
I think I got a lemon
Discharging from 100%
Battery level 73%

37 Minutes since unplugged ( it was plugged in for 12 hours)
Android 65%
Display 22%
Cell Standby 13%
 
jonhammond52 said:
I think I got a lemon
Discharging from 100%
Battery level 73%

37 Minutes since unplugged ( it was plugged in for 12 hours)
Android 65%
Display 22%
Cell Standby 13%
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Some app is eating away your Inc. Do you have Astro? It has a pretty nice task manager type app that breaks down usage for you
 
Android at 65% is awfully high I've never seen mine that high. In your battery settings when you click on "Android System" what is your "cpu total?"
 
jfunk said:
...Especially when there is available credible documentation that basically says what you think you are witnessing is pretty much physically impossible...
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How is it impossible that my battery goes on my desk at 7am, when I first bought it, I don't touch it all day, and its almost dead by 4pm. I do the same for the rest of the week, and then it starts to last overnight...with the phone being pulled off the charger, following overnight charging, at 6am. This comparing same size OEM batteries.

Its kinda hard to "fat finger" a 16+hr discrepency. I'm glad that all of your extra batteries worked to their full potential right out of the box.
 
would it just be the battery that sucks? or would it be the phone itself? because I'm getting shitty battery life too and I've done all the things posted in the threads to save batt life... i can literally see it drop every few min.
 
jonhammond52 said:
CPU Total 33s
CPU foreground 3s
Data Sent 1.78 KB
Data Recieved 1.2 KB
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Hmm that's not the issue then those are fine numbers. Do you have something that is polling often? There has ben a gmail contacts sync issue talked about in another forum iirc....maybe this is what you are experiencing...I can't find it I'll look!
 
I got the red light indicator yesterday after about 14 hrs. I'm on day 5 and it maybe has gotten a little better. That's really not going to cut it for me.

I just don't get how people say I need to turn everything off in order to get a long battery life. What the hell is the point of buying the phone then?

My blackberry had no problem staying charged for two days with heavy use, wi-fi, gps, internet, texting, emails, phone calls.

I don't buy that excuse that I have to turn all that crap off. The battery sucks, period. Why is everyone beating around the bush about it. It's an awesome phone, don't get me wrong, but the battery sucks.
 
Brausso said:
I got the red light indicator yesterday after about 14 hrs. I'm on day 5 and it maybe has gotten a little better. That's really not going to cut it for me.

I just don't get how people say I need to turn everything off in order to get a long battery life. What the hell is the point of buying the phone then?

My blackberry had no problem staying charged for two days with heavy use, wi-fi, gps, internet, texting, emails, phone calls.

I don't buy that excuse that I have to turn all that crap off. The battery sucks, period. Why is everyone beating around the bush about it. It's an awesome phone, don't get me wrong, but the battery sucks.
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What size screen and processor did your blackberry have?
 
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