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Root Beginners Guide To ROMS

Hmmm - I remembered reading somewhere that Nandroid Backupss made with SPRecovery are NOT compatible with Clockwork Mod, and vice versa is also true - IIRC Initially they were but then that later changed.

Can anyone confirm?
 
To Bruce H:

I didn't quote because it was getting a little long. I'll try to address your questions though.

Ok, so all that I need to create a Nandroid image is ROM Manager, right?
Actually you just need recovery for that (technically) but ROM Manager makes life easier for you. In essence you can say "all I need to make a nandroid backup is ROM Manager". That is a true statement.

So, I suppose that my question is why would one wish to go back to unrooted stock? That would wipe out all of the customization of the phone that takes so long to accomplish, right? Wouldn't it be more advantageous to restore the Nandroid image and then perform some "un-root" operation?
I don't think there is a way to "unroot". The only way I've read is to reflash a stock ROM and take the OTA to bring you up to 2.2 Froyo. Unless you can "unpatch" - but that would most likely be a very complex and error prone process. Better to just reflash a ROM. Remember, it's like installing a new OS so, just like when you install a new OS, you are presented with a clean desktop.

Does anyone disagree with this analysis and believe that rooting/ROMing operations can brick a smartphone?
I think anyone who understands what is going on, even at a high level (not a button click high level mind you) will realize that bricking your phone by flashing a ROM is neigh impossible. It takes much more to brick your phone than that.

Can either the carrier or the factory determine that the phone was rooted, nandroided, restored, and un-rooted?
I don't believe they can tell if you have been rooted. Even if they could, your average sales person/clerk wouldn't have the knowledge or skills to get that information reliably. This is all conjecture based on some internal knowledge of how carriers work.

Thanks again, Scott!

Judging from this thread at XDA, un-rooting would appear to be a simple process:

One Click Root / UnRoot / for Vibrant/Captivate/Galaxy S
 
Hmmm - I remembered reading somewhere that Nandroid Backupss made with SPRecovery are NOT compatible with Clockwork Mod, and vice versa is also true - IIRC Initially they were but then that later changed.

Can anyone confirm?

I tried it and as far as I can tell (and read on the boards) they are NOT compatible. Good call John.
 
Technically, no it is not a part of ROM Manager.

ROM Manager is an app that is very powerful, and very slick. It has the ability to change all sorts of things on your phone. You can install ROMs, updates, backup ROMs, manage those backups, and change your recovery system.

Clockwork Mod is an alternate recovery system - written by the same author as ROM Manager.

You cn use ROM Manager to install CWM on your phone (and also SPRecovery, another alternate recovery system). But it is not a part of it per se.
 
LOL I've read this post and now I'm more confused. Now i dont know what I know! My IT guy at work basically said its like changing OS on my pc is that a good comparison? I would love to be able to customize my Droid but I'm scared to get started. And let me just swallow my pride and ask this question: What the heck is "froyo"? Stop laughing.
 
Im with ya. All I want out of the root really is a performance boost. Past that Im happy with the stock stuff. But with all the info given and a very limited knowledge Im almost scared to start/dont know where to start. I am rooted...I feel good for getting that far at this point.:)
 
ok ?. using ROM Manager..can I Backup my stock rom using the "Backup Current ROM" option. then Download a rom via the "Download ROM" option. then install use the "Install ROM from SD Card" and I will have a rom installed or am I dreaming that it could possibly be that easy?
 
Im with ya. All I want out of the root really is a performance boost. Past that Im happy with the stock stuff. But with all the info given and a very limited knowledge Im almost scared to start/dont know where to start. I am rooted...I feel good for getting that far at this point.:)


At least you know you're rooted! LOL
 
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