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Root Best ROM to flash for a first timer?

UPDATE: Titanium Backup is fixed... highly recommend the "donate" version as well.

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Arrgh! Titanium Backup is now a Force Close disaster (at least until it's updated)... looks like I get to wait before continuing my ROM swapping misadventures!

NOTE: If anyone as found a workaround for the Titanium FC issue or can recommend a similar app that serves the same purpose, please post!

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erisuser1 said:
What Paul says here mirrors exactly my experience.

It says a lot about the quality of Ivan's work, especially if you consider that Ivan doesn't even own an Eris.

Frankly, the further a ROM strays from stock, the more problems you are going to experience. That's because the devs don't have the testing bandwith that HTC and Verizon do, and as soon as you start severing things out of one ROM, and pasting other things in, you are going to experience problems due to software dependencies that the "dev" can not easily detect without careful testing - or hardware problems (because every handset is just a little different!) I liked EE2.0b - until I tried browsing the internet from my phone at night. That tiny little bug (no backlight on softkeys) was enough to make me dump that ROM in a heartbeat.

Sure, it's cool to try out a ROM just to see what it can do; I gave kaosFroYo a shot yesterday just to see what 2.2 looked like, even though it was obvious even before I loaded it that I wouldn't be using it for very long.

Official_1.0_OC is my base camp, and I make Nandroid backups of it nearly every day (to pick up further tweaks or app updates); all the rest of them at this point are day hikes away from base camp.

Not saying I won't eventually change base camps; but for now, that's my choice.


eu1
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This sounds like a great ROM. I have been using Plain Jane 2.0 for a couple days now and think its pretty stable as well. Question(s)... I have the phone totally set up now, is it too late at this point to do a nand backup? When exactly should it be done? I am using A2SD too, so I should do a nand+ext backup, is that right? To try this ROM out is there anything I need to do except wipe? I thought I read somewhere about switching from a2sd rom to another, something about a constant boot loop. Do you know anything about that? And how do I recover Plain Jane if I want to go back to it? Sorry so many questions, but a girl just needs help sometimes, lol!
 
I do a NAND backup immediately before wiping and going to another ROM. That way, if I want to go back, my phone will be exactly the way it was before the wipe.

You can do a NAND backup at anytime though.
 
Karib,

It is never too late to do Nandroid backups - you should be doing them as a routine thing frequently, just like any backup strategy.

For sure, if you are going to switch ROMs, you should do a Nand+ext backup immediately before applying the new ROM, in the same Amon_RA recovery boot session. It is the very first thing you do, followed by a wipe, and then flashing of the new ROM.

The quote about Ivanmmj's Official 1.0 was correct for the time that it was written, but Plain Jane 2 didn't even exist when that quote was typed. I think you will find that PJ2 is actually a small improvement from Ivan's. In any event, they are close enough in nature that you might consider it a waste of your time to try that small step backwards.

As for getting PJ2 back, you just do a Nand restore.

eu1
 
erisuser1 said:
Karib,

It is never too late to do Nandroid backups - you should be doing them as a routine thing frequently, just like any backup strategy.

For sure, if you are going to switch ROMs, you should do a Nand+ext backup immediately before applying the new ROM, in the same Amon_RA recovery boot session. It is the very first thing you do, followed by a wipe, and then flashing of the new ROM.

The quote about Ivanmmj's Official 1.0 was correct for the time that it was written, but Plain Jane 2 didn't even exist when that quote was typed. I think you will find that PJ2 is actually a small improvement from Ivan's. In any event, they are close enough in nature that you might consider it a waste of your time to try that small step backwards.

As for getting PJ2 back, you just do a Nand restore.

eu1
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Thanks, I will back up occassionaly then and stick with what PJ since its working very well for me!
 
In regards to the NAND backup, I just rooted yesterday using the 1-click method and I want to start experimenting with different ROMS. When you do the NAND backup, does it save a new one every time or is it just the most recent one you did? In other words, if I do a backup now, then wipe and flash a different ROM, then do another backup, do I have access to both of those or just the latest one. Sorry for the newbness of my question, I've tried searching but haven't had any luck. I'm sure one of the amazingly helpful people here can answer this in a second. :)
 
Do a nand backup before wiping and flashing a new rom. Yes you can have as many as your sd card can hold. It helps greatly to rename backups so you know what is what. When you restore, you'll get a list of all backups on your card... just choose the one you want to restore.
 
When renaming the backups, is it the "nandroid.md5" file that I should change to something that will help me remember which is which?
 
cmotion said:
When renaming the backups, is it the "nandroid.md5" file that I should change to something that will help me remember which is which?
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Backups are located on your sd card in the "nandroid" folder. Without looking, I think mine usually have the date i made the backup in the title by default.
 
Awesome! Found it, thanks LED. One more general question: do you always have to/should you do a Wipe before flashing a ROM? If so, I've heard of different kinds of wipes, something like Davlic cache? I'm about to load up Ivan's Official, did the nand backup, went to flash then saw the "Wipe" option and wanted to double check...
 
cmotion said:
Awesome! Found it, thanks LED. One more general question: do you always have to/should you do a Wipe before flashing a ROM? If so, I've heard of different kinds of wipes, something like Davlic cache? I'm about to load up Ivan's Official, did the nand backup, went to flash then saw the "Wipe" option and wanted to double check...
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Yes, you should always wipe factory and dalvik cache before flashing a different rom. If you are flashing an upgrade for the same rom, then sometimes a wipe is not needed. The rom dev will tell you if it is a non-wipe upgrade.
 
cmotion said:
Awesome! Found it, thanks LED. One more general question: do you always have to/should you do a Wipe before flashing a ROM? If so, I've heard of different kinds of wipes, something like Davlic cache? I'm about to load up Ivan's Official, did the nand backup, went to flash then saw the "Wipe" option and wanted to double check...
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The general rule is that you always wipe before installing a new ROM from a different ROM series; you can wipe before you do a Nand restore, but it isn't needed in that case because the Nand restore wipes each partition before the restore is performed.

The only occasion where you don't wipe is when you are upgrading from a ROM in a particular series to a later revision, and the dev explicitly says that it is OK to do so.

There is a bit of a misunderstanding about Dalvik cache wipes when you are also doing a general (data/factory reset) wipe - the Dalvik cache wipe is a subset of the data/factory reset wipe, and doesn't really do anything "extra".
 
One last question from me tonight. Is there a time where one should use a Nand +ext backup vs. the regular ol' Nand? I feel like any explanation beyond "yes" or "no" will probably be over my head, but so far I've only made the regular Nand.
 
cmotion said:
One last question from me tonight. Is there a time where one should use a Nand +ext backup vs. the regular ol' Nand? I feel like any explanation beyond "yes" or "no" will probably be over my head, but so far I've only made the regular Nand.
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The nand+ext is used only if you are using A2SD (apps to sd card).
 
I have yet to try Ic3 or Ivans 1.0 but my "base camp" is Sense-able 3.1 ([ROM]Sense-able 3.1! OverClock [5/10/10] - xda-developers)

I have tried many other ROMs looking for stability first and functionality second (all the things that should work if I had never rooted) then all the fun stuff like OC and wireless tether are the last on my list. The icing on the cake if you will.

I have flashed so many ROMs and spent so much time getting them set up the way I like them only to find out I have to flash another zip to fix the mms or gps, or there is just something basic that doesn't work that I cant stand it any more:mad:

I have been running Sense-able for months now:D (which means I am not exactly up to date with all the latest versions of all the ROMs) and as long as I don't go crazy with mixing things like OC widgets and Launcherpro (which sounds like it is a problem on any ROM) I have ZERO problems.

Last thing is the most unfortunate: Sounds to me like every Eris has the potential to act differently for every ROM and every user. So there is no "word of God" regarding what will work best for you.

Just remember to do a NAND if you have made progress I like to rename my NANDs with some description (e.g. latest_senseable_minus_oc_and_extras or ItAllWorksButNav)

Note that you cannot put spaces or other special characters in the name of the NAND besides underscores or it will not be recognized when it comes time to do the restore.

Now I am going to try Ivans 1.0 because it sounds like the perfect ROM for me.
Oh, and I will say that OverClocking has caused more headaches for the minute gains it presented than it was worth. Watch your battery life and compare it to the actual performance "gain" and you be the judge.


Good Luck, and above all Have Fun!
 
Heya.
I'm looking for my first ROM, and would like something fairly simple for starters. 2.1 base, no partitioning/app2sd, no JIT (or disabled - not even sure if the 2.1 based ROMs can have this...), but with OC and lots of room to play : )

Any ideas?
 
QuasiNerd said:
Heya.
I'm looking for my first ROM, and would like something fairly simple for starters. 2.1 base, no partitioning/app2sd, no JIT (or disabled - not even sure if the 2.1 based ROMs can have this...), but with OC and lots of room to play : )

Any ideas?
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Try xtrSENSE 4.0.6.1. You'll be happy with it even if you don't tweak the OC with profiles. (Defaults to 710 max).

eu1
 
hallstevenson said:
Mind if I add my "wants" ?

Stable
Reasonably fast (at least not laggy)
Google's apps
Sense (optional ... been trying different 'home' or 'launchers' but like HTC's widgets)
App2SD (optional)

Heh, I think that's a pretty reasonable list of requests.
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My very first flash was White Widow 4.6. It allows you to have app2sd and is reasonably fast especially after overclocking it. As far as the sense widgets go, you would be a bit out of luck there but, if you get launcher pro plus, you will have access to some widgets like message, contacts, bookmarks and calendar.
 
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