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Root Best Rom?
- Thread starter stingrays
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Well you have serveral options... Ctmod being one of the best! Its fast, it has the ability to store your apps on your sd extention.. It doesnt lagg hmm... Its overall a great rom! I say if you are barely getting into the droid game, test that one out.... Im pretty sure you'll like it... Once you get familiar i recommend trying all the roms on the root page and see which one fits your needs. Cm9 is 4.0 it derives from hroarks work! Its a nice rom but like in its op "it is not for regualr \ daily use. Cm7 was alright... I didnt really fiddle with that one.....
cwhatever
Life Goes On
the new ones are great and that is why they put them out for us the people to test and find bugs to fix to make better. the other older more stable roms are great, now, when installed right they most likely won't have problems, if any problems they are caused by us the people messing with things and doing things we aren't sure about and basically cause the problems to happen. even now when i mess with stuff i screw it up and have to restore back to old setup. but when let it be and just use never have any issues or problems.
so that's that in the nut shell!
dochollidae
Newbie
I don't think there is a particular "best one" but rather just the one that suits the user's needs and likes. When I first got the Prevail, I almost took it back because it would always freeze (even if I wasn't doing anything in particular) and I would have to shut it off. I also had the "can't hang up" thing happen all the time and the phone was completely stock.
I had CTMod, which is very good, since that's what the tutorial at the top of the page came with. I am now using Honeybread without freezing and I can reliably hang up on people. Both are good, but I just prefer one over the other for personal reasons.
Don't get me wrong, though. I'm sure there are some terrible ROMs in the dark corners of the internet, but the ones here are mostly a matter of preference.
I had CTMod, which is very good, since that's what the tutorial at the top of the page came with. I am now using Honeybread without freezing and I can reliably hang up on people. Both are good, but I just prefer one over the other for personal reasons.
Don't get me wrong, though. I'm sure there are some terrible ROMs in the dark corners of the internet, but the ones here are mostly a matter of preference.
wetbiker7
Extreme Android User
I agree. It just depends on the user and what you want or need to do w/ the phone.
Also, it's good to see someone from back home. I grew up in right outside of Charlotte in Gastonia.
kristopher5823
Android Enthusiast
There is also the miui and the lewa out there also and 187 rom too there really isn't a best i would say just which ever you prefer
Kcsuper
Well-Known Member
That's like asking what my favorite color is. But since you asked, my favorite color is Honeybread (it just works best for me). Don't bother with CM9 yet bro (OP), it's still unstable and will be very bad especially if this is your first experiment with roms. Not knocking ICS though...my opinion is that it's just best for tablets.
Bloodawn
Android Expert
Almost every time I see one of your posts your talking about how EXT4 is going to sneak up in the middle of the night and butt**** you, yet I've never had any problems or anything get corrupted while using it on 3 different phones or with ubuntu, and I haven't seen anyone using my rom report any issues that were actually related to the file system.
cwhatever
Life Goes On
i have no problems whatso ever. and most people that have problems cause them themselves by doing something they don't know anything about. that is what will happen on any rom, or any setup. people will always go to the limit and when you do you will go over the edge!!!!!!!
cwhatever
Life Goes On
mine is so stable, i would have to say as stable as a non android, well just phone. mine is great running every day all the time doing whatever i want.
if YAFFS2 with MTD is so great how come no one else is talking about it here.
not being a wise ass just asking??
Zeinzu
Well-Known Member
Because your phone doesn't get the level of development as the Epic 4g does. Or the level of knowledgeable developers as our device has (not being rude, being honest).
YAFFS2 is faster and more stable. MTD allows you to specify the space for each partition. You can use this to decrease your large cache size (mainly used for OTA updates) and increase your data and system partitions.
EXT4 has no journaling. This means if you shut your phone down improperly (remove battery), your phone freezes, or dies you run the "risk" of your partitions becoming corrupt. It's not a gaurantee that it "will" happen it's just being real with you about what "can" happen.
Many of you are flashaholics (as most custom rom users are) and won't experience this since your flashing another system over the last rom, or rom update fairly frequently. Running that file system for extended periods of time however and experiencing the conditions I mentioned absolutely can cause complete corruption. I tested it with your build of Cm7 on my girlfriend's prevail. It took 5 times freezing and having to battery pull and the whole system/data partitions fc'd upon boot.
This isn't some crap I'm spouting out to be a dick. I'm trying to help you guys because you don't get nearly as much development as other devices. I'm trying to share with you what "we've" learned through trial/error/and much more experience.
This is something I'm sharing from people much more experienced in android development than any of us, and much more intelligent on the subject than any of you, and myself.
Believe what you want. My Epic runs great thanks to our dev community so I could care less. I thought since this is something we've tested extensively and have proven as beyond fact that your community might benefit from knowing.
No good deed goes unpunished, though.
YAFFS2 is faster and more stable. MTD allows you to specify the space for each partition. You can use this to decrease your large cache size (mainly used for OTA updates) and increase your data and system partitions.
EXT4 has no journaling. This means if you shut your phone down improperly (remove battery), your phone freezes, or dies you run the "risk" of your partitions becoming corrupt. It's not a gaurantee that it "will" happen it's just being real with you about what "can" happen.
Many of you are flashaholics (as most custom rom users are) and won't experience this since your flashing another system over the last rom, or rom update fairly frequently. Running that file system for extended periods of time however and experiencing the conditions I mentioned absolutely can cause complete corruption. I tested it with your build of Cm7 on my girlfriend's prevail. It took 5 times freezing and having to battery pull and the whole system/data partitions fc'd upon boot.
This isn't some crap I'm spouting out to be a dick. I'm trying to help you guys because you don't get nearly as much development as other devices. I'm trying to share with you what "we've" learned through trial/error/and much more experience.
This is something I'm sharing from people much more experienced in android development than any of us, and much more intelligent on the subject than any of you, and myself.
Believe what you want. My Epic runs great thanks to our dev community so I could care less. I thought since this is something we've tested extensively and have proven as beyond fact that your community might benefit from knowing.
No good deed goes unpunished, though.
cwhatever
Life Goes On
mine runs great too and here we have what we have to work with, not being a dick either. and understand about being experienced, but then why don't they come over here and make this better. sorry but the people here believe in this and do the best they can with what we got here.
Bloodawn
Android Expert
ext4 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Looks like Journalism to me bro.
I wasn't arguing that EXT4 was better than YAFFS2, I was just saying that you don't need to post about how much you hate EXT4 every time your in the prevail section.
And thats great that you epic guys have Jesus developing for you, I hear he makes some awesome shit.
inigomontoyasr
Android Enthusiast
writeback journaling is enabled by default on all of our custom roms.
ext2 has no journaling. ext3 and ext4 do.
I think I have seen another post from you saying something similar.
I don't think anyone on the Prevail forum is claiming to be an expert dev, I think most of us are in the learning stage, I know that I am.
You seem to know more than us, so can you make us a yaffs based ROM, and help us out please.
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oopsibrokeit
Member
Wow......asking what the best Rom is like kicking an ant hill huh?
Xruptor
Android Enthusiast
OH NO! Not another "What is the best rom" post! I love these!
Why can't people just choose the one they want?
Here is a tip......
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THERE IS NO BEST ROM. Each one is unique and has positives and negatives. Pick the one your most comfortable with or suits your needs.
In the end it's about what YOU like. Not what someone else tells you. Asking what is the best rom is going to be extremely opinionated and your not going to get a definite answer.
I'm not trying to be mean, just pointing out a fact
Why can't people just choose the one they want?
Here is a tip......
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THERE IS NO BEST ROM. Each one is unique and has positives and negatives. Pick the one your most comfortable with or suits your needs.
In the end it's about what YOU like. Not what someone else tells you. Asking what is the best rom is going to be extremely opinionated and your not going to get a definite answer.
I'm not trying to be mean, just pointing out a fact
Zeinzu
Well-Known Member
Know what, I'll talk to our Cm Team about converting to YAFFS2/MTD for you guys, rather than just keep talking about it. It'll give you guys a better file system and more control over your partition sizes since MTD is open source. If they can walk me through the process I'll see if my gf is ok with me testing it out on her prevail. If/when it works if there is a dev here I can contact with the how-to then you guys can test it out and decide for yourselves if you agree that it's worth it. Sooo, I'll just leave it at that then till I have a how-to ready for ya's?
be sure to tell them that the Prevail is a BML/STL nand device
I have not seen YAFFS2 implemented on a BML/STL device yet
only on mmcblk type devices, but I am still a noob
the first thing they would need to do is add yaffs support to the kernel
they will not be able to use the kernel source code from opensource.samsung.com becuase it does not work
they can use the kernel source that I have fixed found here
https://github.com/hroark13/prevail_kernel_fixed
there are OC sources available, but no one has provided me with files so they are not on my git
Zeinzu
I was the one who brought ext4 to the Prevail,
http://androidforums.com/galaxy-prevail-all-things-root/400282-ext4-test-rom-advanced-users.html
even before we had working kernel source code, I was able to compile the kernel FS modules, so all your criticism of ext4 on the Prevail is basically directed towards me.
If you review that thread, my objective was to test the ext4 file system on the Prevail, based on the feedback I had received in that thread, I started using it in any ROM I produced.
I was the one who brought ext4 to the Prevail,
http://androidforums.com/galaxy-prevail-all-things-root/400282-ext4-test-rom-advanced-users.html
even before we had working kernel source code, I was able to compile the kernel FS modules, so all your criticism of ext4 on the Prevail is basically directed towards me.
If you review that thread, my objective was to test the ext4 file system on the Prevail, based on the feedback I had received in that thread, I started using it in any ROM I produced.
oopsibrokeit
Member
Lol .... this is a good way to find the developers here too!